yea well 24k hard turbo miles in 6 months, so hard I destroyed an engine and 6 months later a transmission. An engine and a tranny rebuild done separate and using the stock mounts as braces one at a time and bending and contorting the crap out of them for a week apiece for each maintenance evolution, and they are still in good shape

These stock mounts are VERY durable. All of this with a VF lower mount BTW.