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Originally Posted by jonney38
On the Montana "study". Seat belt use went up, fatalities went down. Makes sense.
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yes seat belt use went up, with NO enforcement. When you let people make their own reason decisions over what is "safe" they actually do what is safe. With low speed limits, people get a false sense of security that is is not dangerous and they dont wear seat belts.
So you still think paying billions of dollars to make the US a nanny state makes more sense to FORCE people to do what is safe, rather than just let people act in a reasonable manor, and do what is safe on their own.
despite a TONE of studies on the subject that prove BEYOND a reasonable doubt that speed limits do not improve safety, you keep beating your drum with absolutely NO facts or data to back up the mis-information you keep spreading. You have not posted ONE SINGLE fact on this site to support ANY of the stuff you are saying...
Everything you are posting is based on your OWN theory with no testing to support it, no actual studies or facts at ALL support what you are saying...
The most effective measure for highway safety is not SPEED control but FLOW controll. You want to keep traffic free flowing at all time, and limit the time cars spend close to each other. You want nice safe following distances, with more distance between cars with bigger speed differences. That is why it is ingrained in peoples heads in germany to MOVE RIGHT when a car comes flying up behind them. If they are not doing 70mph in front of a car doing 90mph they CAN'T get rear ended. It is safer to be to the right with a car doing 65mph behind you.
The key is flow, you don't want HUGE variations in traffic speed in the same lane, with faster traffic pulling up on slower traffic. You want to get the faster drivers infornt of the slower drivers in the safest, most efficent manor possable. So you have cars keep right, pass left, and you want to maintain safe following distances at all time. Once you interfear with the flow (artifical speed limits, slow traffic in the left lane) you redice a highways designed capasity, you redice following distances, and you have large speed differentials in the same lane which lead to accidents.
So back to your simple physics. We can either lower the speed limits, and jam up the highways and have crashes, but not many fatal ones...
Or we can move the slower cars out of the way of faster cars, so it is not possable for the 2 cars to crash in the first place.
I think all the studies show that the latter option is much more realistic, and useful in the real world, and the former is all but useless and unenforceable in the rear world.