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**amc49** · 12-31-2008, 10:41 PM

The gear whine starts as a gear rockover noise at very slow roll speeds before it gets worse. I do not rebuild for the market, just my own stuff. My '00 wagon started noise at 75K, my boy's '02 4 dr. does it at 48K. Both Ford built, no repairs yet. Apparently you can run it making the noise for quite a while (wagon now @134K), just wondering what gears will look like when trans broke open. You would still have to bolt that case down while torqueing up the collapsible spacer, that must be a stout workbench. I realize you may not have to go the whole torque amount, just till the gear turns with proper resistance. One time use on spacer only, go too far you get to break it back down and replace spacer. On the cooler, I read somewhere that Ford STRONGLY suggested not flushing or cleaning it on rebuild, replace only as it was too difficult to get all trash out of it. I agree on converter, change that sucker at rebuild, but beware people who will claim converter (and clutch surfaces inside) have been fully rebuilt when all they've done is clean it up, shoot a new coat of paint on it and call it "new". That's rampant here in Dallas area. How much trouble do you see from the end cover that has the built in support for rotating mass? Wear aroung seal ring grooves to be specific. Special tools present a problem of cost, You supposedly needed them on CD4E also, I managed to rebuild mine without buying a one but it took some thinking and cobbling up tools of my own. That guy right about running changes Ford makes, that CD4E had so many mods made it took several runs to the part store before I finally had all the changes sorted out. There were like 6 different length F/D/C cylinders alone. Naturally I had the 6th one they didn't have and they ordered in 3 more before got right part. On the subject of 4F27E manuals, I'd say stay away from the ATRA manual. That one sucks, the ATSG much better, of course Ford the best. Looking forward to the challenge of rebuilding one, have rebuilt every auto trans I own, all have lasted for many years (CD4E Contour now on 3rd). I like seeing if I can do it, also, probably the best I will ever get paid doing so.

12-31-2008, 10:41 PM	#22 (permalink)
amc49 TEAM Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 158	Re: ATX rebuilds The gear whine starts as a gear rockover noise at very slow roll speeds before it gets worse. I do not rebuild for the market, just my own stuff. My '00 wagon started noise at 75K, my boy's '02 4 dr. does it at 48K. Both Ford built, no repairs yet. Apparently you can run it making the noise for quite a while (wagon now @134K), just wondering what gears will look like when trans broke open. You would still have to bolt that case down while torqueing up the collapsible spacer, that must be a stout workbench. I realize you may not have to go the whole torque amount, just till the gear turns with proper resistance. One time use on spacer only, go too far you get to break it back down and replace spacer. On the cooler, I read somewhere that Ford STRONGLY suggested not flushing or cleaning it on rebuild, replace only as it was too difficult to get all trash out of it. I agree on converter, change that sucker at rebuild, but beware people who will claim converter (and clutch surfaces inside) have been fully rebuilt when all they've done is clean it up, shoot a new coat of paint on it and call it "new". That's rampant here in Dallas area. How much trouble do you see from the end cover that has the built in support for rotating mass? Wear aroung seal ring grooves to be specific. Special tools present a problem of cost, You supposedly needed them on CD4E also, I managed to rebuild mine without buying a one but it took some thinking and cobbling up tools of my own. That guy right about running changes Ford makes, that CD4E had so many mods made it took several runs to the part store before I finally had all the changes sorted out. There were like 6 different length F/D/C cylinders alone. Naturally I had the 6th one they didn't have and they ordered in 3 more before got right part. On the subject of 4F27E manuals, I'd say stay away from the ATRA manual. That one sucks, the ATSG much better, of course Ford the best. Looking forward to the challenge of rebuilding one, have rebuilt every auto trans I own, all have lasted for many years (CD4E Contour now on 3rd). I like seeing if I can do it, also, probably the best I will ever get paid doing so.