Clutch Masters FX400 (Stage IV) Clutch - Focaljet

**bluest170** · 05-18-2006, 06:54 AM

I've been looking on your website and I see this clutch comes with a 4 puck ceramic disc, I've been told that a 6 puck would be better and I was wondering if I could have this instead of the 4 puck.

If I could could you tell me the price increase please.

Thanks Glenn

**cfmfocus2** · 05-18-2006, 10:24 AM

It would cost the same. We would just need to order the 6 puck version for you from CM. Takes about 5 business days to get in-stock.

**bluest170** · 05-18-2006, 11:07 AM

Cool Thanks

**bluest170** · 05-19-2006, 06:25 AM

Once the clutch has been fitted how does the clutch pedal feel? Is it very hard or is it like the original clutch?

**cfmfocus2** · 05-19-2006, 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluest170

Once the clutch has been fitted how does the clutch pedal feel? Is it very hard or is it like the original clutch?

The clutch pedal is not hard. I would say little stiffer than stock. The main thing that changes is the engagement point. The amount of clutch pedal travel also changes before it will engage. The clutch does engage harder than stock.

**bluest170** · 05-19-2006, 09:52 AM

Thanks Again

**Focus_ZXT** · 05-20-2006, 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cfmfocus2

The clutch pedal is not hard. I would say little stiffter than stock. The main thing that changes is the engagement point. The amount of clutch pedal travel also changes before it will engage. The clutch does engage harder than stock.

Does it engage sooner or later?

**Terrible1** · 05-20-2006, 12:01 PM

Should be sooner....it can't get much later on the Focus

**CFM Forum Support** · 05-21-2006, 03:02 AM

Definately engages sooner and a bit harsher. Pedal feel when installed correctly could very well feel lighter. I've heard different stories from different people.

But it is definately not a "hard" pedal and very liveable. The engagement is what is toughest about this clutch. For stop and go traffic it could prove a bit hectic. Other than that scenario it's not bad at all for a daily driven vehicle.

**bluest170** · 05-22-2006, 05:38 AM

Would a stage 3 be a better choice for a daily driver or a completely different clutch set up? like a spec stage 3, 3+ or 4 ???? what do you get with the spec clutch, do you get a new slave cylinder like you do with the clutchmasters clutch?

**CFM Forum Support** · 05-22-2006, 11:22 AM

Clutchmasters Stg IV is the same as Spec Stage III. How much power do you plan on putting down? That's the key really.

With the spec and the CM clutch from CFM you will get everything you need. Bearing and Slave Cylinder.

**bluest170** · 05-22-2006, 11:41 AM

I am hoping for 300bhp @ fly, and a clutch that is a good all rounder

Thanks Glenn

**CFM Forum Support** · 05-22-2006, 01:28 PM

What type of setup is this going to be?
Turbo, Supercharger?

If it's a turbo, then you'll definately want to stick with a Spec 3 or CM 4.
If it's a supercharger you can go one step down to a kevlar pad disc. The kevlar disc will last alot longer and will be a "bit" easier in day to day driving. Just make sure to break in the clutch properly.

**KwickBlackSVT** · 05-22-2006, 07:45 PM

What about a 270whp 220wtq procharger, what clutch would you reccomend?

**CFM Forum Support** · 05-22-2006, 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KwickBlackSVT

What about a 270whp 220wtq procharger, what clutch would you reccomend?

Same as listed above. You can choose to use a ceramic pad disc (stage 3 for spec or stage 4 for CM) OR you can choose to use a kevlar disc (stage 2 for spec stage 3 for CM)

Superchargers dont pack the mid-range torque slam that turbo's do. The torque build is definately linear.

My personal preference is to shy away from Kevlar pad clutches due to the inherant issues with bad break in. Kevlar pads can get cooked quickly if a user is not careful during their break-in period. When done right, kevlar holds great and lasts a long time, plus slipping the clutch in for day to day driving is a tad easier.

But the ceramic padded clutches aren't that different. Slightly shorter lifespan but not a susceptible to damage during an improper break-in.

With that said, ALWAYS break in your clutch properly

**KwickBlackSVT** · 05-22-2006, 09:22 PM

With proper break in, how long do you think each one would last.

This is with normal driving but seeing a drag strip maybe twice a month.

**STFUN** · 05-23-2006, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluest170

I am hoping for 300bhp @ fly, and a clutch that is a good all rounder

Thanks Glenn

Glenn

I have the Stage IV clutch with a Fidanza flywheel in Evilbat. Not ideal in slow moving traffic, but the ovrall feel is better than the stock items I did have.

Ian

**bluest170** · 05-23-2006, 01:26 PM

Thanks Ian

I have Just ordered one of those but with the cm aluminium flywheel. Thought it would be better to be safe than sorry.

Glenn

05-18-2006, 06:54 AM	#1
bluest170 TEAM Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: UK Posts: 157	Clutch Masters FX400 (Stage IV) Clutch I've been looking on your website and I see this clutch comes with a 4 puck ceramic disc, I've been told that a 6 puck would be better and I was wondering if I could have this instead of the 4 puck. If I could could you tell me the price increase please. Thanks Glenn

05-18-2006, 10:24 AM	#2
cfmfocus2 Premier Sponsor Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 941	Re: Clutch Masters FX400 (Stage IV) Clutch It would cost the same. We would just need to order the 6 puck version for you from CM. Takes about 5 business days to get in-stock. __________________ William - Sales Dept / Central Florida Motorsports, Inc. - Since 1996 william@c-f-m.com / Online Customer Service / 407.339.9211 We match ALL advertised prices on products we carry! Our Latest Products / SVT Focus Parts Video of our 12 second Vortech Supercharged 1/4 mile Focus / Engine Specs Come see our new show room!

05-18-2006, 11:07 AM	#3
bluest170 TEAM Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: UK Posts: 157	Re: Clutch Masters FX400 (Stage IV) Clutch Cool Thanks

05-19-2006, 06:25 AM	#4
bluest170 TEAM Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: UK Posts: 157	Re: Clutch Masters FX400 (Stage IV) Clutch Once the clutch has been fitted how does the clutch pedal feel? Is it very hard or is it like the original clutch?

05-19-2006, 09:52 AM	#6
bluest170 TEAM Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: UK Posts: 157	Re: Clutch Masters FX400 (Stage IV) Clutch Thanks Again

05-20-2006, 12:01 PM	#8
Terrible1 Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Idaho Falls, Idaho Posts: 2,112	Re: Clutch Masters FX400 (Stage IV) Clutch Should be sooner....it can't get much later on the Focus __________________ ENGINE- Powerworks, Kamikaze, 2.5" SS exhaust, Mocal oil cooler, Torsen, 4.06 FD, CN race clutch, Fidanza SUSPENSION/WHEELS- Custom H&R Coilovers, FS camber plates, CFM control arms, Prothane, Eibach sway bars, Rota Slips w/Toyo R888, SVT brakes w/Hawk race pads, ARP studs, Custom wheel spacers EXTERIOR- Deft' CF hood, Sparco hood pins, CF F1 mirrors, CF sunroof delete, Custom front airdam/splitter, APR wing INTERIOR- Custom spec cage, RS shift knob, FC SS, Corbeau Fx1, Momo Mod78, NRG quick release, Defi gauges, Crow 5point SPONSORS- Troys Engine Mfg., Casper Customs, Striknine Motorsports, Bleeding Cowboy Tattoo

05-21-2006, 03:02 AM	#9
CFM Forum Support Premier Sponsor Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 51	Re: Clutch Masters FX400 (Stage IV) Clutch Definately engages sooner and a bit harsher. Pedal feel when installed correctly could very well feel lighter. I've heard different stories from different people. But it is definately not a "hard" pedal and very liveable. The engagement is what is toughest about this clutch. For stop and go traffic it could prove a bit hectic. Other than that scenario it's not bad at all for a daily driven vehicle.

05-22-2006, 05:38 AM	#10
bluest170 TEAM Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: UK Posts: 157	Re: Clutch Masters FX400 (Stage IV) Clutch Would a stage 3 be a better choice for a daily driver or a completely different clutch set up? like a spec stage 3, 3+ or 4 ???? what do you get with the spec clutch, do you get a new slave cylinder like you do with the clutchmasters clutch? Last edited by bluest170 : 05-22-2006 at 05:46 AM.

05-22-2006, 11:22 AM	#11
CFM Forum Support Premier Sponsor Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 51	Re: Clutch Masters FX400 (Stage IV) Clutch Clutchmasters Stg IV is the same as Spec Stage III. How much power do you plan on putting down? That's the key really. With the spec and the CM clutch from CFM you will get everything you need. Bearing and Slave Cylinder.

05-22-2006, 11:41 AM	#12
bluest170 TEAM Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: UK Posts: 157	Re: Clutch Masters FX400 (Stage IV) Clutch I am hoping for 300bhp @ fly, and a clutch that is a good all rounder Thanks Glenn

05-22-2006, 01:28 PM	#13
CFM Forum Support Premier Sponsor Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 51	Re: Clutch Masters FX400 (Stage IV) Clutch What type of setup is this going to be? Turbo, Supercharger? If it's a turbo, then you'll definately want to stick with a Spec 3 or CM 4. If it's a supercharger you can go one step down to a kevlar pad disc. The kevlar disc will last alot longer and will be a "bit" easier in day to day driving. Just make sure to break in the clutch properly.

05-22-2006, 07:45 PM	#14
KwickBlackSVT TEAM Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: STL Missouri Posts: 175	Re: Clutch Masters FX400 (Stage IV) Clutch What about a 270whp 220wtq procharger, what clutch would you reccomend? __________________ :::Black SVT Focus:::: SCT XCal2 tuned by Hypnotic Illusions Automotive, ATI PC, FC ORP, FRPP STS, MSD Blaster Coil, MSD 8.5mm Super Conductor Wires, Motorcraft AZFS22C plugs, Oil Catch Can, Energy Suspension Lower Motor Mount Inserts, Tinted Tails, Eibach Lowering Springs, Tinted Corners, SilverStars, 2 12" Kenwoods, Boss Audio 1000w Amp, BF Goodrich KDW-2s :::Red 2004 GTO::: Daddys car... Borla Exhaust, HP Tuners, BMR air bags

05-22-2006, 09:22 PM	#16
KwickBlackSVT TEAM Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: STL Missouri Posts: 175	Re: Clutch Masters FX400 (Stage IV) Clutch With proper break in, how long do you think each one would last. This is with normal driving but seeing a drag strip maybe twice a month. __________________ :::Black SVT Focus:::: SCT XCal2 tuned by Hypnotic Illusions Automotive, ATI PC, FC ORP, FRPP STS, MSD Blaster Coil, MSD 8.5mm Super Conductor Wires, Motorcraft AZFS22C plugs, Oil Catch Can, Energy Suspension Lower Motor Mount Inserts, Tinted Tails, Eibach Lowering Springs, Tinted Corners, SilverStars, 2 12" Kenwoods, Boss Audio 1000w Amp, BF Goodrich KDW-2s :::Red 2004 GTO::: Daddys car... Borla Exhaust, HP Tuners, BMR air bags

05-23-2006, 01:26 PM	#18
bluest170 TEAM Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: UK Posts: 157	Re: Clutch Masters FX400 (Stage IV) Clutch Thanks Ian I have Just ordered one of those but with the cm aluminium flywheel. Thought it would be better to be safe than sorry. Glenn

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