C-F-M Lowering springs - Page 2 - Focaljet

**DisrupTer911** · 05-15-2007, 06:44 PM

there needs to be something more then the steeda offering and the intrax are discontinued.

**CaysE** · 05-15-2007, 07:36 PM

CFM, whatever you do, don't listen to Jon's raking drop suggestion. Even fender gap in the front and rear are key!

The Steedas seem a bit unbalanced and not many are fans of progressives. ~200 lb/in front and ~250 lb/in rear would be ideal, I think. With a 1.75" to 2" drop; again, as long as the fender gap is the same front to rear.

**whyme** · 05-15-2007, 07:54 PM

i bet theres a reason the gap is differant, handling, though diff spring rates could mabe compensate. i just think there had to be a reson for it (guess mabe for rear end cargo loading...).

anywho, looks are great and all as long as performance and functionality are not sacrificed.

**CaysE** · 05-15-2007, 08:41 PM

exactly... the rear is higher so it doesn't drag when the hatch is loaded. If you're getting performance springs, I can't imagine you'd be loading all that much in the back.

**sleeperlove** · 05-16-2007, 09:04 AM

You would be surprised. People who want the performance often do not want the loss of ability to haul stuff in the hatch or trunk. Michaelxi a few weeks ago just posted about how he had near a half ton of mulch in his hatch (he is on HR race springs) and how it handled it beautifully.

I think the most popular spring would be something like the old Apex 1.5 springs, decent drop, decent stiffness people go crazy trying to find those things anymore.

**cfmfocus2** · 05-16-2007, 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaysE

~200 lb/in front and ~250 lb/in rear would be ideal, I think. With a 1.75" to 2" drop; again, as long as the fender gap is the same front to rear.

looks like a good idea. Low to Mid 200' springs.

**cfmfocus2** · 05-16-2007, 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DisrupTer911

there needs to be something more then the steeda offering and the intrax are discontinued.

Offering something like the Intrax springs would be interesting, but those springs tend to be on the stiff side. Someone would need to buy better dampers, which is something we would like to avoid.

**CaysE** · 05-16-2007, 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sleeperlove

You would be surprised. People who want the performance often do not want the loss of ability to haul stuff in the hatch or trunk. Michaelxi a few weeks ago just posted about how he had near a half ton of mulch in his hatch (he is on HR race springs) and how it handled it beautifully...

Perhaps this can be offset with progressive springs in the back?

**OmniFocus** · 05-16-2007, 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaysE

Perhaps this can be offset with progressive springs in the back?

Personally I'm not big on the way a progressive spring feels for performance applications.

**DisrupTer911** · 05-16-2007, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cfmfocus2

Offering something like the Intrax springs would be interesting, but those springs tend to be on the stiff side. Someone would need to buy better dampers, which is something we would like to avoid.

performance dampers should not be a compromise but a true performance upgrade when you're going to be putting stiffer springs on teh car.

even low-mid 200 rates would wear out stock dampers in a very short matter of time.

**sleeperlove** · 05-16-2007, 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DisrupTer911

performance dampers should not be a compromise but a true performance upgrade when you're going to be putting stiffer springs on teh car.

even low-mid 200 rates would wear out stock dampers in a very short matter of time.

exactly

lowering springs and no damper upgrades do not go together.

**cfmfocus2** · 05-17-2007, 07:31 AM

It looks like most of our customers let their stock dampers go out first before they buy the performance dampers.

**CaysE** · 05-17-2007, 11:44 AM

It is the unfortunate trend... people want their cars to be lower more than they want it to handle better. Not that it affects this situation anyway, because the springs will be bought either way.

**aljenkins88** · 06-04-2007, 02:34 PM

I vote for something similar to the intrax. I am in the market for something just like those. I am not having much luck finding anything in that range though.

**eddiebrock71** · 07-26-2007, 08:39 PM

Do spring rates like the steeda sport springs. Honestly, if you check out the rates and science behind it, it can take out quite a bit of understeer, and handles great. The rates are not crazy high, so it is also a comfortable ride. but have them 1/4 inch lower in the front and rear. Basically, a 1.75 drop.

**Rickter** · 07-30-2007, 03:23 PM

I like my Eibach Pro setup but I need something a bit stiffer. I would defiantly buy a set as long as I wouldn't have to change my dampers and shocks (Eibach Pro).
But if you offered a hell of a deal on a full set-up I would consider it.

**Rickter** · 10-16-2007, 02:24 PM

Any news on development, or has the project been scrapped?

05-15-2007, 06:44 PM	#26
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05-15-2007, 07:36 PM	#27
CaysE EDM Specialist Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bloomfield, NJ Posts: 7,165	Re: C-F-M Lowering springs CFM, whatever you do, don't listen to Jon's raking drop suggestion. Even fender gap in the front and rear are key! The Steedas seem a bit unbalanced and not many are fans of progressives. ~200 lb/in front and ~250 lb/in rear would be ideal, I think. With a 1.75" to 2" drop; again, as long as the fender gap is the same front to rear. __________________ 2008 Cannondale F4 ··· Hi-brite · no mods (yet) 2003 Vermilion Red SVTf ··· hehehehehehe strictly/focused "It would take a miracle to make the entire Focus community get along. FF vs FJ, F-P vs FS, tuner vs tuner, racer vs ricer. What can you do?" Last edited by CaysE : 05-15-2007 at 07:43 PM.

05-15-2007, 07:54 PM	#28
whyme Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: angola, NY Posts: 1,668	Re: C-F-M Lowering springs i bet theres a reason the gap is differant, handling, though diff spring rates could mabe compensate. i just think there had to be a reson for it (guess mabe for rear end cargo loading...). anywho, looks are great and all as long as performance and functionality are not sacrificed. __________________ 2006 zx3, 2.0 PZEV. Toreador red Body Mods: Roush front fascia, HIDs (6k), 5% Tint, Blue turns, Silverstar fogs, painted headlights, BOSCH wipers. Performance Mods: MBRP exhust, F2 CAI, F2 Header, Cosworth Cams, CFM 65mm TB, FC short throw, Steeda MIL eliminator, energy dogbone inserts, SVT 5 spoke wheels w/ Hankook K106 rubber, SVT dampers and FRPP 1 1/2 drop springs, Bix RSB retrofit, Eibach anti-roll kit(22mm front/25mm rear), slotted rotors and Hawk HPS pads, XCAL2 by FocusSport.

05-15-2007, 08:41 PM	#29
CaysE EDM Specialist Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bloomfield, NJ Posts: 7,165	Re: C-F-M Lowering springs exactly... the rear is higher so it doesn't drag when the hatch is loaded. If you're getting performance springs, I can't imagine you'd be loading all that much in the back. __________________ 2008 Cannondale F4 ··· Hi-brite · no mods (yet) 2003 Vermilion Red SVTf ··· hehehehehehe strictly/focused "It would take a miracle to make the entire Focus community get along. FF vs FJ, F-P vs FS, tuner vs tuner, racer vs ricer. What can you do?"

05-16-2007, 09:04 AM	#30
sleeperlove Sleeper Cars Suck Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: in the dirt Posts: 8,071	Re: C-F-M Lowering springs You would be surprised. People who want the performance often do not want the loss of ability to haul stuff in the hatch or trunk. Michaelxi a few weeks ago just posted about how he had near a half ton of mulch in his hatch (he is on HR race springs) and how it handled it beautifully. I think the most popular spring would be something like the old Apex 1.5 springs, decent drop, decent stiffness people go crazy trying to find those things anymore. __________________ A nursery teacher was observing her classroom of children while they were drawing. She would occasionally walk around to see each child's work. As she got to one little girl who was working diligently, she asked what the drawing was. The girl replied, "I'm drawing God." The teacher paused and said, "But no one knows what God looks like." Without looking up from her drawing, the girl replied, "They will in a minute."

05-17-2007, 07:31 AM	#37
cfmfocus2 Premier Sponsor Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 856	Re: C-F-M Lowering springs It looks like most of our customers let their stock dampers go out first before they buy the performance dampers. __________________ William - Sales Dept / Central Florida Motorsports, Inc. - Since 1996 william@c-f-m.com / Online Customer Service / 407.339.9211 We match ALL advertised prices on products we carry! Our Latest Products / SVT Focus Parts Video of our 12 second Vortech Supercharged 1/4 mile Focus / Engine Specs Come see our new show room!

05-17-2007, 11:44 AM	#38
CaysE EDM Specialist Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bloomfield, NJ Posts: 7,165	Re: C-F-M Lowering springs It is the unfortunate trend... people want their cars to be lower more than they want it to handle better. Not that it affects this situation anyway, because the springs will be bought either way. __________________ 2008 Cannondale F4 ··· Hi-brite · no mods (yet) 2003 Vermilion Red SVTf ··· hehehehehehe strictly/focused "It would take a miracle to make the entire Focus community get along. FF vs FJ, F-P vs FS, tuner vs tuner, racer vs ricer. What can you do?"

06-04-2007, 02:34 PM	#39
aljenkins88 TEAM Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: winchester, VA Posts: 131	Re: C-F-M Lowering springs I vote for something similar to the intrax. I am in the market for something just like those. I am not having much luck finding anything in that range though.

07-26-2007, 08:39 PM	#40
eddiebrock71 Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 82	Re: C-F-M Lowering springs Do spring rates like the steeda sport springs. Honestly, if you check out the rates and science behind it, it can take out quite a bit of understeer, and handles great. The rates are not crazy high, so it is also a comfortable ride. but have them 1/4 inch lower in the front and rear. Basically, a 1.75 drop.

07-30-2007, 03:23 PM	#41
Rickter Dyslexic Wonder Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Fixed your a/c. Now pay me bitch (Jax, FL) Posts: 1,154	Re: C-F-M Lowering springs I like my Eibach Pro setup but I need something a bit stiffer. I would defiantly buy a set as long as I wouldn't have to change my dampers and shocks (Eibach Pro). But if you offered a hell of a deal on a full set-up I would consider it. __________________ '03 Imperial Blue ZX3 128 whp 130 ft-lbs 93 Red Festiva L ( Project Toaster) 63hp 73ft-lbs of Fury BPT in progress Garret James McIntire 7.25.1984- 4.14.2007 Rest In Peace I Miss You Brother And Will Always Love You

10-16-2007, 02:24 PM	#42
Rickter Dyslexic Wonder Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Fixed your a/c. Now pay me bitch (Jax, FL) Posts: 1,154	Re: C-F-M Lowering springs Any news on development, or has the project been scrapped? __________________ '03 Imperial Blue ZX3 128 whp 130 ft-lbs 93 Red Festiva L ( Project Toaster) 63hp 73ft-lbs of Fury BPT in progress Garret James McIntire 7.25.1984- 4.14.2007 Rest In Peace I Miss You Brother And Will Always Love You

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