Cheapest way to get another 35-40whp? - The Ford Focus Forum

**mbell75** · 11-04-2009, 12:41 AM

So I just got an 05 ZX3 and it looks like these guys dyno around 110-112hp. I will be doing the usual exhaust, CAI and ECU flash which is good for about 15-20whp. My question is, is there a way to squeeze another 20whp out of the engine without spending more than $1500 or so? I would be happy with about 145-150whp I think. Thoughts?

**pssdfocus** · 11-04-2009, 02:05 AM

simple, no

**mbell75** · 11-04-2009, 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by pssdfocus

simple, no

ha, yea. Guess its not like a big V8 where a few bolt ons will get you cheap HP eh? Oh well. FSWerks is 8 miles from me, I will go pick their brain and see what I can do. Thanks

**iceguyb14** · 11-04-2009, 08:29 AM

intake manifold, header, cams should get you that extra ~20whp.

**locdowg7** · 11-04-2009, 08:51 AM

And a proper tune not just a flash.

**DueceCoupe** · 11-04-2009, 08:59 AM

Its easy....Nitrous Oxide.
Adjsutable kit from 35,50 and 75 Horsepower jets.
Its not on all the time,but there when you need it.

**BlkThunder** · 11-04-2009, 09:59 AM

fswerks will def get you hooked up. However, cheap and anything more than 5 CRANK hp will never go in the same sentence. NO2 will be the cheapest easiest way to do it but as many have and will continue to say.... save up for real boost. The duratec responds to na mods pretty good, but most of the ones that'll show you power NA are useless with a turbo (Header). So pretty much, get an exhaust, get an intake manifold maybe a set of mild cams and then start saving for boost.

**DueceCoupe** · 11-04-2009, 10:25 AM

Agreed....I am one of the funny ones,that do not wish to have boost just yet.
I want the power when I need it,and I dont need it all the time.
Therefore the Nitrous is the route Im taking this year.
But yeah,FSWerks will get you in the right direction.

**OmniFocus** · 11-04-2009, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by locdowg7

And a proper tune not just a flash.

With a relatively stock 2.0L Duratec, FSWerks' off-the-shelf tune would be more than appropriate.

As long as you don't have any funky hardware that drastically changes your parameters, there really isn't a need for a custom dyno tune.

**kipp** · 11-04-2009, 11:29 AM

header might get ya another 15hp

**mbell75** · 11-04-2009, 12:11 PM

Ok, great. The car has 53k miles, not sure I want to spend the money on a turbo for it, not sure how long these things last. Runs great right now that and like I said, I dont need any major power, just a little more get up and go. Thanks

**BlkThunder** · 11-04-2009, 12:23 PM

At 53k it has a ton of life left in it. Id still suggest the
Exhaust
Intake Mani
Cams
Tune

then if u want more, its boost time.

**mtadd162** · 11-04-2009, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BlkThunder

At 53k it has a ton of life left in it.

It better im getting close to 50k

**cpz1987** · 11-04-2009, 11:11 PM

just like duece said. Nitrous man. u dont need it all the time. but when you do its there! 50 shot and call it a day if thats all you want

**Mabolzichjjl** · 11-05-2009, 01:20 AM

i would NEVER put nos in my car, personally..

i vote headers, intake mani, a new cam, and a full tune (as others have mentioned)

**BlkThunder** · 11-05-2009, 08:53 AM

NOS = Name brand. NO2 = universal name for Nitrous Oxide. Just can the header, cuz he'll want boost eventually.

**MrBirdman330** · 11-05-2009, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DueceCoupe

Its easy....Nitrous Oxide.
Adjsutable kit from 35,50 and 75 Horsepower jets.
Its not on all the time,but there when you need it.

NOS is for sissies that can't trust their own motor.

**Dracconix** · 11-05-2009, 11:36 PM

I ran a 65 shot on my ST for almost 2 years and numerous runs down the 1/4...

Nitrous is fun, and easy, however you will quickly need a clutch (as well with a turbo)... but the main issue is fueling and our cars wonderful plastic intake manifold. I didn't have to worry to much about it though since I had the cossie manifold.

A lot of people will knock Nitrous, but there is nothing that makes more power cheaper... and it is just as safe as any other power adder as long as its DONE RIGHT!

**hommie** · 11-06-2009, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Dracconix

I ran a 65 shot on my ST for almost 2 years and numerous runs down the 1/4...

Nitrous is fun, and easy, however you will quickly need a clutch (as well with a turbo)... but the main issue is fueling and our cars wonderful plastic intake manifold. I didn't have to worry to much about it though since I had the cossie manifold.

A lot of people will knock Nitrous, but there is nothing that makes more power cheaper... and it is just as safe as any other power adder as long as its DONE RIGHT!

I would agree 100%. As long as you install correctly or have someone install it and tune it to your car you will never have a problem. I ran a 150 setup on my Mustang for about 5 years before switching to a supercharger. It worked great every time! It does get a little expensive to fill the bottles

**mbell75** · 11-07-2009, 07:37 PM

Thanks. Not interested in juicing though

What do the SVT Focus dyno at? Thought I heard around 150-155whp, thats what I was hoping to get without boosting. Can that be done with exhaust, intake manifold, headers, cam and a good tune? If so, whats all that gonna run? Would it just be cheaper to go with that $3200 FSWerks stage 1 turbo and be done with it?

**BlkThunder** · 11-07-2009, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by mbell75

Thanks. Not interested in juicing though

What do the SVT Focus dyno at? Thought I heard around 150-155whp, thats what I was hoping to get without boosting. Can that be done with exhaust, intake manifold, headers, cam and a good tune? If so, whats all that gonna run? Would it just be cheaper to go with that $3200 FSWerks stage 1 turbo and be done with it?

yes.

But if you want 290 hp at the wheels perhaps you'll consider MY svt

**mbell75** · 11-07-2009, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BlkThunder

yes.

But if you want 290 hp at the wheels perhaps you'll consider MY svt

Sweet! I'll take it if you are selling it for $3200

**Lancer211** · 11-08-2009, 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by mbell75

Thanks. Not interested in juicing though

What do the SVT Focus dyno at? Thought I heard around 150-155whp, thats what I was hoping to get without boosting. Can that be done with exhaust, intake manifold, headers, cam and a good tune? If so, whats all that gonna run? Would it just be cheaper to go with that $3200 FSWerks stage 1 turbo and be done with it?

Are you asking about the SVT Zetec or the Duratec?

**mbell75** · 11-08-2009, 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Lancer211

Are you asking about the SVT Zetec or the Duratec?

The one that was rated at 170hp to the flywheel.

**hommie** · 11-08-2009, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by mbell75

Thanks. Not interested in juicing though

What do the SVT Focus dyno at? Thought I heard around 150-155whp, thats what I was hoping to get without boosting. Can that be done with exhaust, intake manifold, headers, cam and a good tune? If so, whats all that gonna run? Would it just be cheaper to go with that $3200 FSWerks stage 1 turbo and be done with it?

If it was me I would just save up and the FS Werks Stage 2 kit. If you decide to do that buy things that you can use with the turbo kit like exhaust. Or you can just do the other stuff that you have listed and that should get around the 150 mark. Of course you are looking at $1500-2000 for the items listed above.

11-04-2009, 12:41 AM	#1 (permalink)
mbell75 Rookie Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 12	Cheapest way to get another 35-40whp? So I just got an 05 ZX3 and it looks like these guys dyno around 110-112hp. I will be doing the usual exhaust, CAI and ECU flash which is good for about 15-20whp. My question is, is there a way to squeeze another 20whp out of the engine without spending more than $1500 or so? I would be happy with about 145-150whp I think. Thoughts?

11-04-2009, 02:05 AM	#2 (permalink)
pssdfocus Rookie Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: michigan Posts: 34	Re: Cheapest way to get another 35-40whp? simple, no __________________ lg 06 st-steeda sri,eibach pro-kit,25mm rsb,asa ar1's

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iceguyb14 Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Fredericksburg, Virginia Posts: 2,502	Re: Cheapest way to get another 35-40whp? intake manifold, header, cams should get you that extra ~20whp. __________________ - Jeff 250whp/245wtq at 11psi... *ENGINE BUILD PARTS/COSSIE IM/FSW STAGE 1 TURBO KIT/EXEDY HYPERSINGLE/FORD RACING HEAD COMPLETE WITH EVERYTHING FOR SALE!!! PM me for info.. FIRST COME FIRST SERVE*

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locdowg7 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 84	Re: Cheapest way to get another 35-40whp? And a proper tune not just a flash.

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DueceCoupe Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 94	Re: Cheapest way to get another 35-40whp? Its easy....Nitrous Oxide. Adjsutable kit from 35,50 and 75 Horsepower jets. Its not on all the time,but there when you need it.

11-04-2009, 10:25 AM	#8 (permalink)
DueceCoupe Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 94	Re: Cheapest way to get another 35-40whp? Agreed....I am one of the funny ones,that do not wish to have boost just yet. I want the power when I need it,and I dont need it all the time. Therefore the Nitrous is the route Im taking this year. But yeah,FSWerks will get you in the right direction.

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kipp Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: KCK Posts: 1,536	Re: Cheapest way to get another 35-40whp? header might get ya another 15hp __________________ 2009 Vista Blue 5spd Coupe AKA Blue Reign - mods underway 2003 Kawasaki Z1000 1975 Kawasaki KZ400 - Cafe Project www.cardomain.com/id/blazer8302

11-04-2009, 12:11 PM	#11 (permalink)
mbell75 Rookie Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 12	Re: Cheapest way to get another 35-40whp? Ok, great. The car has 53k miles, not sure I want to spend the money on a turbo for it, not sure how long these things last. Runs great right now that and like I said, I dont need any major power, just a little more get up and go. Thanks

11-04-2009, 11:11 PM	#14 (permalink)
cpz1987 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 60	Re: Cheapest way to get another 35-40whp? just like duece said. Nitrous man. u dont need it all the time. but when you do its there! 50 shot and call it a day if thats all you want

11-05-2009, 01:20 AM	#15 (permalink)
Mabolzichjjl Rookie Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 44	Re: Cheapest way to get another 35-40whp? i would NEVER put nos in my car, personally.. i vote headers, intake mani, a new cam, and a full tune (as others have mentioned)

11-05-2009, 11:36 PM	#18 (permalink)
Dracconix Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Central Indiana Posts: 1,795	Re: Cheapest way to get another 35-40whp? I ran a 65 shot on my ST for almost 2 years and numerous runs down the 1/4... Nitrous is fun, and easy, however you will quickly need a clutch (as well with a turbo)... but the main issue is fueling and our cars wonderful plastic intake manifold. I didn't have to worry to much about it though since I had the cossie manifold. A lot of people will knock Nitrous, but there is nothing that makes more power cheaper... and it is just as safe as any other power adder as long as its DONE RIGHT! __________________ FSWERKS & Cosworth.... Proving Power > Traction.... 14.01 @ 106.66

11-07-2009, 07:37 PM	#20 (permalink)
mbell75 Rookie Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 12	Re: Cheapest way to get another 35-40whp? Thanks. Not interested in juicing though What do the SVT Focus dyno at? Thought I heard around 150-155whp, thats what I was hoping to get without boosting. Can that be done with exhaust, intake manifold, headers, cam and a good tune? If so, whats all that gonna run? Would it just be cheaper to go with that $3200 FSWerks stage 1 turbo and be done with it?

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