Euro Spec tails - MADE SIMPLE!! - Page 2 - Focaljet

**DisrupTer911** · 10-02-2006, 02:38 AM

question.

On the front grill, the turn signal connectors are stamped with Minor, Major, Ground.

Are the rear connectors stamped in the same fashion? if they are, you could reduce a tremendous amount of wiring to nearly nothing by just splicing or vamp clipping into the existing wiring coming off teh connectors

think along the lines of the Mach/ST170 headlight installations.

**Tobyboom** · 10-02-2006, 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dj_kurruption

I did this today, and it works.....somewhat. I modded my US tails to have the turns in the reverse lamp.

The parking, stop, and turnsignals work. But, since the blue wire is used to control the turnsignal and the stop light, when I step on the brake the turnsignals light up as well. I need to read another guide, but the way you have described here causes this to happen.

I TOLD YA!!!!! Not as simple as he says it is...

**BlckXenonZx3** · 10-02-2006, 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DisrupTer911

question.

On the front grill, the turn signal connectors are stamped with Minor, Major, Ground.

Are the rear connectors stamped in the same fashion? if they are, you could reduce a tremendous amount of wiring to nearly nothing by just splicing or vamp clipping into the existing wiring coming off teh connectors

think along the lines of the Mach/ST170 headlight installations.

The EDM ones are the US ones aren't as the "brake" wire carrys both brake and turn signal in one wire.

**DisrupTer911** · 10-02-2006, 06:06 PM

ah ok, that's what I wanted to know. thanks dude.

**BlckXenonZx3** · 10-02-2006, 07:34 PM

Fo sho'.

**dj_kurruption** · 10-02-2006, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Tobyboom

I TOLD YA!!!!! Not as simple as he says it is...

Acutally, it is as simple. All you have to do is splice 2 wires at the GEM and you're done. You cut both of the rear stop/turn wires and splice into the front turn signal wires at the GEM. This is the best way to do it, eliminating the need to run wires by utilizing the wires already run.

Look here.

http://olmikul.home.comcast.net/taillights.htm

All he needs to do is add that step and it will work correctly. I fixed mine yesterday and they work great!

**mievil** · 10-03-2006, 12:09 PM

Can someone at least change the title of the thread to include '02? At least until someone with a newer car as well as someone with an older car can try it out. And include the GEM stuff in the original post. Unless the dude that made the first post can verify that the blinkers do not illuminate with the brakes upon pedal press.

**Azwethinkweiz** · 10-05-2006, 09:03 PM

http://olmikul.home.comcast.net/taillights.htm Worked perfectly on my '03. Now I just need to figure out what I'm going to do for reverse lights

**Azwethinkweiz** · 10-05-2006, 09:49 PM

Well instead of repeatedly posting that you want someone else to find you a guide or find out how to do it for you, maybe take a tester and see if you can track it down yourself. Read the how-to and go look at your car. Test the wires in the how-to and see if they are the same. If the colors are different try the wires that are in the same positions on your harnesses as the ones in the how-to and test those. It wouldnt be too hard to figure out.

**BlckXenonZx3** · 10-05-2006, 10:35 PM

I've already talked through PMs with darth focus when he was doing his or perhaps you didn't read his prelude thread to this?

On a helpful note you don't need to cut wires. Test off your blue rear connector with a multimeter. I believe pep boys that has one that has an option using a bulb on it. Light lit, thats your wire. Otherwise a simple google search will explain how to use it. Best of luck.

You could also trace the wires from the lights to get an idea of which wires your dealing with and work from there.
If your nipping at the bit and can't wait, why not run turns from the front sides and locate what wire leads to the third brake wire (a solid)?

**dj_kurruption** · 10-06-2006, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by 03BlackZX3

http://olmikul.home.comcast.net/taillights.htm Worked perfectly on my '03. Now I just need to figure out what I'm going to do for reverse lights

On my US lights that I changed the reverse to the turn, I wonder if you splice the turn signal into the reverse wire if it would serve dual purpose? I don't see any negatives....

**KC_FOCII** · 10-06-2006, 01:07 PM

I Have An Easier Way That Requires NO EXTRA WIRES But You Need Some Beefy Resistors And Thats That. If Anyone Is Interested PM Me Your Year And SVT vs ZX3. It Allows The Tails To Have A Euro Appearance With A Brake And Park Lamp And A Turn In the Reverse. Some Modifications To The Wires In The Rear And At The Gem By The PCM Where You Need to Add Some Resistance To A Ground.

Later

ROONEY

**KC_FOCII** · 10-06-2006, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BlckXenonZx3

The EDM ones are the US ones aren't as the "brake" wire carrys both brake and turn signal in one wire.

Yes The GEM Module Runs The Lamps And Pulses The Feed To The Turn Side. But There Is An Easy Way Around This......

Later

ROONEY

**mievil** · 10-06-2006, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by 03BlackZX3

Well instead of repeatedly posting that you want someone else to find you a guide or find out how to do it for you, maybe take a tester and see if you can track it down yourself. Read the how-to and go look at your car. Test the wires in the how-to and see if they are the same. If the colors are different try the wires that are in the same positions on your harnesses as the ones in the how-to and test those. It wouldnt be too hard to figure out.

Just wondering, was that directed at me? Or someone else?

**Azwethinkweiz** · 10-06-2006, 02:58 PM

Nah not you bro, Vad was repeatedly bumping the thread daily asking for a how to for the 2000, I deleted his posts. Sorry bout the confusion.

**vad** · 10-06-2006, 03:15 PM

O, common.
Not daily.

**Azwethinkweiz** · 10-06-2006, 03:58 PM

Every other...My bad

**mievil** · 10-06-2006, 05:58 PM

Cool. I was gonna say I could give a crap about how other people do it. I already had to figure it out on my own a friggin long ass time ago. Just ran the blinks from the front, but I like to wire, so it was no big deal. Didn't even know there was such a thing as a GEM.

Although I may try that way now.

**BlckXenonZx3** · 10-07-2006, 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_FOCII

Yes The GEM Module Runs The Lamps And Pulses The Feed To The Turn Side. But There Is An Easy Way Around This......

Later

ROONEY

So as no one gets confused EDM Sockets are still labeled Maj Min Grnd, and US aren't since there is only one signal wire :-)

**BlckXenonZx3** · 10-07-2006, 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mievil

I already had to figure it out on my own a friggin long ass time ago.

Haha It's funny having seperate turns two/three years ago was the ****, now it seems par for the course. I had to figure it out on my lonesome too.....WOWZA what a pain in the change purse.

**vad** · 12-17-2006, 08:59 PM

Any news?

**BlckXenonZx3** · 12-17-2006, 09:31 PM

Do you still have the PMs we passed back and forth, iirc that had instructions on what to do.

**shadyninja** · 12-18-2006, 12:29 AM

was thinking how to do this my self today...
good read!

10-02-2006, 02:38 AM	#26
DisrupTer911 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Bloomfield, New Jersey Posts: 14,971	Re: Euro Spec tails - MADE SIMPLE!! question. On the front grill, the turn signal connectors are stamped with Minor, Major, Ground. Are the rear connectors stamped in the same fashion? if they are, you could reduce a tremendous amount of wiring to nearly nothing by just splicing or vamp clipping into the existing wiring coming off teh connectors think along the lines of the Mach/ST170 headlight installations. __________________ -2002 Liquid Grey Zetec ZX3 : 2009 Ice White R-Design C30 : Strictly \| Focused myFlickr : Canon : Sigma : Tamron : Induro : Vivitar : Domke : Crumpler [FJ] \| Sponsors \| Store \| Guidelines \| Ext. How-To \| Int. How-To \| Mid-Atlantic \| [FJ]

10-02-2006, 06:06 PM	#29
DisrupTer911 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Bloomfield, New Jersey Posts: 14,971	Re: Euro Spec tails - MADE SIMPLE!! ah ok, that's what I wanted to know. thanks dude. __________________ -2002 Liquid Grey Zetec ZX3 : 2009 Ice White R-Design C30 : Strictly \| Focused myFlickr : Canon : Sigma : Tamron : Induro : Vivitar : Domke : Crumpler [FJ] \| Sponsors \| Store \| Guidelines \| Ext. How-To \| Int. How-To \| Mid-Atlantic \| [FJ]

10-02-2006, 07:34 PM	#30
BlckXenonZx3 ))<>(( Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lancaster, PA Posts: 3,444	Re: Euro Spec tails - MADE SIMPLE!! Fo sho'. __________________ 03 Black EDM ZX3- Proudly BUILT--Gone 08 Volvo C30 Ice White--On the roads I <3 FJ Kharma......

10-03-2006, 12:09 PM	#32
mievil I have wonderous butt cheeks Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: San Diego, CA / Zhuhai, Guangdong, PRC Posts: 10,035	Re: Euro Spec tails - MADE SIMPLE!! Can someone at least change the title of the thread to include '02? At least until someone with a newer car as well as someone with an older car can try it out. And include the GEM stuff in the original post. Unless the dude that made the first post can verify that the blinkers do not illuminate with the brakes upon pedal press.

10-05-2006, 09:03 PM	#33
Azwethinkweiz Moderator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Plattsburgh, NY Posts: 3,523	Re: Euro Spec tails - MADE SIMPLE!! http://olmikul.home.comcast.net/taillights.htm Worked perfectly on my '03. Now I just need to figure out what I'm going to do for reverse lights __________________ [FJ] [ Sponsors ] [ Search ] [ Exterior How-To's ] [ Interior How-To's ] [ ax0n's FocusHacks ] [ Guidelines ] [FJ] .

10-05-2006, 09:49 PM	#34
Azwethinkweiz Moderator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Plattsburgh, NY Posts: 3,523	Re: Euro Spec tails - MADE SIMPLE!! Well instead of repeatedly posting that you want someone else to find you a guide or find out how to do it for you, maybe take a tester and see if you can track it down yourself. Read the how-to and go look at your car. Test the wires in the how-to and see if they are the same. If the colors are different try the wires that are in the same positions on your harnesses as the ones in the how-to and test those. It wouldnt be too hard to figure out. __________________ [FJ] [ Sponsors ] [ Search ] [ Exterior How-To's ] [ Interior How-To's ] [ ax0n's FocusHacks ] [ Guidelines ] [FJ] .

10-05-2006, 10:35 PM	#35
BlckXenonZx3 ))<>(( Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lancaster, PA Posts: 3,444	Re: Euro Spec tails - MADE SIMPLE!! I've already talked through PMs with darth focus when he was doing his or perhaps you didn't read his prelude thread to this? On a helpful note you don't need to cut wires. Test off your blue rear connector with a multimeter. I believe pep boys that has one that has an option using a bulb on it. Light lit, thats your wire. Otherwise a simple google search will explain how to use it. Best of luck. You could also trace the wires from the lights to get an idea of which wires your dealing with and work from there. If your nipping at the bit and can't wait, why not run turns from the front sides and locate what wire leads to the third brake wire (a solid)? __________________ 03 Black EDM ZX3- Proudly BUILT--Gone 08 Volvo C30 Ice White--On the roads I <3 FJ Kharma...... Last edited by BlckXenonZx3 : 10-05-2006 at 11:03 PM.

10-06-2006, 01:07 PM	#37
KC_FOCII TEAM Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Mongoloid Customs In A Cage Posts: 713	Re: Euro Spec tails - MADE SIMPLE!! I Have An Easier Way That Requires NO EXTRA WIRES But You Need Some Beefy Resistors And Thats That. If Anyone Is Interested PM Me Your Year And SVT vs ZX3. It Allows The Tails To Have A Euro Appearance With A Brake And Park Lamp And A Turn In the Reverse. Some Modifications To The Wires In The Rear And At The Gem By The PCM Where You Need to Add Some Resistance To A Ground. Later ROONEY __________________ 2003 Pitch Black ZX3 - Not Lookin For It, Its In My Driveway, Thanks Kipp :D 1964 1/2 Ford Falcon Ranchero W/ Factory 289 V8 Hand Made And Home Built Snitches

10-06-2006, 02:58 PM	#40
Azwethinkweiz Moderator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Plattsburgh, NY Posts: 3,523	Re: Euro Spec tails - MADE SIMPLE!! Nah not you bro, Vad was repeatedly bumping the thread daily asking for a how to for the 2000, I deleted his posts. Sorry bout the confusion. __________________ [FJ] [ Sponsors ] [ Search ] [ Exterior How-To's ] [ Interior How-To's ] [ ax0n's FocusHacks ] [ Guidelines ] [FJ] .

10-06-2006, 03:15 PM	#41
vad Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: La Mesa, CA Posts: 1,890	Re: Euro Spec tails - MADE SIMPLE!! O, common. Not daily.

10-06-2006, 03:58 PM	#42
Azwethinkweiz Moderator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Plattsburgh, NY Posts: 3,523	Re: Euro Spec tails - MADE SIMPLE!! Every other...My bad __________________ [FJ] [ Sponsors ] [ Search ] [ Exterior How-To's ] [ Interior How-To's ] [ ax0n's FocusHacks ] [ Guidelines ] [FJ] .

10-06-2006, 05:58 PM	#43
mievil I have wonderous butt cheeks Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: San Diego, CA / Zhuhai, Guangdong, PRC Posts: 10,035	Re: Euro Spec tails - MADE SIMPLE!! Cool. I was gonna say I could give a crap about how other people do it. I already had to figure it out on my own a friggin long ass time ago. Just ran the blinks from the front, but I like to wire, so it was no big deal. Didn't even know there was such a thing as a GEM. Although I may try that way now.

12-17-2006, 08:59 PM	#46
vad Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: La Mesa, CA Posts: 1,890	Re: Euro Spec tails - MADE SIMPLE!! Any news?

12-17-2006, 09:31 PM	#47
BlckXenonZx3 ))<>(( Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lancaster, PA Posts: 3,444	Re: Euro Spec tails - MADE SIMPLE!! Do you still have the PMs we passed back and forth, iirc that had instructions on what to do. __________________ 03 Black EDM ZX3- Proudly BUILT--Gone 08 Volvo C30 Ice White--On the roads I <3 FJ Kharma......

12-18-2006, 12:29 AM	#48
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12-19-2006, 12:14 AM	#49
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