Focus On The Beach Focus Challenge Results - Page 2 - Focaljet

**ClintB1321** · 07-24-2006, 06:43 PM

Clint Boisdeau

3.3 handicap

Just one question. The engine choices on the handicapper did not include my engine (2.0 PZEV). I used the 2.3 PZEV in my calculation. If there is a change can you please tell me. Thank you.

**SVT_Neil** · 07-24-2006, 06:54 PM

I ran a 1:40.318 in my stock SVT Focus on the new full-tread OEM Conti's, according to my Racepak G2X GPS timing equipment, FWIW. I ran a 1:38.527 on March 14 on the old configuration of turn #4 and with the original Conti's that I managed to wear to cord. I guess the heat was worth a couple of seconds at least...

**acnon** · 07-24-2006, 06:56 PM

It's looking like most ppl either ran the same or 1 sec. slower in the 2nd session.

Must have been the heat??

I really do wonder how much that factored in.

**acnon** · 07-24-2006, 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Draxas

Waldo Parravicini: 1:45.092
Arturo Arreseigo: 1:45.260

ALL HAIL THE AUTOTRAGIC KNIGHTS!!!

**belacyrf** · 07-24-2006, 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RickB1321

Clint Boisdeau

3.3 handicap

Just one question. The engine choices on the handicapper did not include my engine (2.0 PZEV). I used the 2.3 PZEV in my calculation. If there is a change can you please tell me. Thank you.

Yes you should use the 2.0 zetec to be closest.

We need to add the new engines. I'll get to that soon.

**ClintB1321** · 07-24-2006, 07:25 PM

Thanks. I changed it but I still have a 3.3.

**Draxas** · 07-24-2006, 07:35 PM

a 3.3.............. That sounds low to me....

I guess the Diff is worth some.. Mine is a 4.05:

2.3L
Header
Intake
Exhaust
SVT Brakes
KW Coilovers
Weight reduction
Kumho MX Tires

I think Lorin ran away with this one.... His corrected time is 1:26.445 and the next closest that I have calculated so far is a 1:29.620.

Lorin, what tire's were you using?

**DanamaxSVT** · 07-24-2006, 07:46 PM

How much does my car weigh? It still has all it's bits and pieces. 'Not sure I got that right on my handicap.
I don't weigh 2800lbs+...do I? I went 2500-2800lbs. Is that right?

**ClintB1321** · 07-24-2006, 07:48 PM

I thought it sounded low too but you cant argue with a computer program.

**acnon** · 07-24-2006, 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanamaxSVT

How much does my car weigh? It still has all it's bits and pieces. 'Not sure I got that right on my handicap.
I don't weigh 2800lbs+...do I? I went 2500-2800
lbs. Is that right?

2800+ Is either an SVT with sunroof or 5 door hatchback I think. Dunno about sedans...

My SVT with all options stock weighed in at 2880 when I checked it.

Go to your local recycle center and borrow the scale for a sec.!!

**DanamaxSVT** · 07-24-2006, 08:43 PM

Changed it...no change in the handicap.

**OmniFocus** · 07-24-2006, 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Draxas

Lorin, what tire's were you using?

I was using RA-1s.

As for weight... I was told a couple years ago that it was car + driver for the weight rating.

**OmniFocus** · 07-24-2006, 09:00 PM

Uhh... Time out guys.... How come Street tires have a Handicap of 0, and the stickiest have a handicap of 4.

Isn't that backwards?

**belacyrf** · 07-24-2006, 09:03 PM

Yes Nik just alerted me to it, I'm gonna fix it in a sec.

We made the changes a while ago, just never validated it I guess.

**belacyrf** · 07-24-2006, 09:05 PM

Ok.. I changed it.

**OmniFocus** · 07-24-2006, 09:06 PM

Looks fixed. That moved me to a 7.25

**Jefe** · 07-24-2006, 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OmniFocus

Looks fixed. That moved me to a 7.25

Hmm, now I'm a 9.8

**FocusAZ1** · 07-24-2006, 09:27 PM

Holy Crap...that tire change plus the weight change (assuming my SVTF with sunroof is 2800+) made me a 2.75 now.

**belacyrf** · 07-24-2006, 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FocusAZ1

Holy Crap...that tire change plus the weight change (assuming my SVTF with sunroof is 2800+) made me a 2.75 now.

What tires were you running?

**airforcefocus** · 07-24-2006, 10:10 PM

Alrighty then, now with the validated handicap I have a new one. It's -0.2.

**MarcyMotorsport** · 07-24-2006, 10:12 PM

My handicap is at 4.5 as the car stood at yesterdays event. Just rechecked it on the website.

**belacyrf** · 07-24-2006, 10:13 PM

That sounds about right. I'm a .75 with street tires. Without street tires I'd be -.5 or something.

Remember there have been no changes to forced induction yet, and also we havent' created the "track factors" yet, which will include multipliers for different areas depending on tracks, and honestly there should be a final correction factor for temps to give the boost guys a chance. Lastly there should be a weight penalty for previous winners.

I'm actually wishing this site would stay used. I really like it and wouldn't mind finishing it up. I guess it's up to Ron and Nick.

**DanamaxSVT** · 07-24-2006, 10:49 PM

I'm at 2.5 Things are making a little more sense now.

So what your saying is currently there is no correction for non-intercooled JRSC VS Intercooled units for example. I'm looking for excuses besides lack of talent when the final results are tallied.

Lap times were significantly slower than my February times.

**Demon4545** · 07-24-2006, 11:04 PM

Mine has changed to a 9.75.

How do the handicap and the raw lap time interact to produce results (sorry, i'm new to all of this

) ?

**FocusSportVP** · 07-24-2006, 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by airforcefocus

Alrighty then, now with the validated handicap I have a new one. It's -0.2.

Maybe we need to do ours again, too then.

07-24-2006, 06:43 PM	#26
ClintB1321 Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: In the mountain roads of Malibu;) Posts: 3,973	Re: Focus On The Beach Focus Challenge Results Clint Boisdeau 3.3 handicap Just one question. The engine choices on the handicapper did not include my engine (2.0 PZEV). I used the 2.3 PZEV in my calculation. If there is a change can you please tell me. Thank you. __________________ Liquid gray 05 ZX3-2.3 build in the works:) Sonic blue 02 SVT-RIP Classic Red 97 Miata- saving for LS1 awesome:) Boost Camel Racing...cause the bches love BOV's;) JCM Racing #310**

07-24-2006, 06:54 PM	#27
SVT_Neil TEAM Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Rancho Santa Margarita, CA Posts: 144	Re: Focus On The Beach Focus Challenge Results I ran a 1:40.318 in my stock SVT Focus on the new full-tread OEM Conti's, according to my Racepak G2X GPS timing equipment, FWIW. I ran a 1:38.527 on March 14 on the old configuration of turn #4 and with the original Conti's that I managed to wear to cord. I guess the heat was worth a couple of seconds at least... __________________ 2002 Sonic Blue SVT Focus Born on date 8/1/2002 #3784 of 4788 Last edited by SVT_Neil : 07-24-2006 at 07:11 PM.

07-24-2006, 06:56 PM	#28
acnon TEAM Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Digitally Inebriated... Posts: 486	Re: Focus On The Beach Focus Challenge Results It's looking like most ppl either ran the same or 1 sec. slower in the 2nd session. Must have been the heat?? I really do wonder how much that factored in. __________________ #1: 2002 SVT Sonic Blue / All options / #479 of 4788 Born: 03/26/02 - CHOKING ON CATALYST... Powerworks S/C at ??Psi Koni yellows all around. #2: 2001 ZX3 Auto - SVT suspension. Otherwise-STOCK!! LOL

07-24-2006, 07:25 PM	#31
ClintB1321 Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: In the mountain roads of Malibu;) Posts: 3,973	Re: Focus On The Beach Focus Challenge Results Thanks. I changed it but I still have a 3.3. __________________ Liquid gray 05 ZX3-2.3 build in the works:) Sonic blue 02 SVT-RIP Classic Red 97 Miata- saving for LS1 awesome:) Boost Camel Racing...cause the bches love BOV's;) JCM Racing #310**

07-24-2006, 07:35 PM	#32
Draxas Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Palmdale, CA Posts: 1,606	Re: Focus On The Beach Focus Challenge Results a 3.3.............. That sounds low to me.... I guess the Diff is worth some.. Mine is a 4.05: 2.3L Header Intake Exhaust SVT Brakes KW Coilovers Weight reduction Kumho MX Tires I think Lorin ran away with this one.... His corrected time is 1:26.445 and the next closest that I have calculated so far is a 1:29.620. Lorin, what tire's were you using? __________________ Nikolas www.RedlineTimeAttack.com www.RedlineTrackEvents.com Host of the Focus Challenge www.FocusChallenge.com

07-24-2006, 07:46 PM	#33
DanamaxSVT Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Orange County, California Posts: 1,571	Re: Focus On The Beach Focus Challenge Results How much does my car weigh? It still has all it's bits and pieces. 'Not sure I got that right on my handicap. I don't weigh 2800lbs+...do I? I went 2500-2800lbs. Is that right? __________________ Silver supercharged SVT Focus and no self discipline... ...that's a huge problem. www.focuschallenge.com #693 Last edited by DanamaxSVT : 07-24-2006 at 08:06 PM.

07-24-2006, 07:48 PM	#34
ClintB1321 Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: In the mountain roads of Malibu;) Posts: 3,973	Re: Focus On The Beach Focus Challenge Results I thought it sounded low too but you cant argue with a computer program. __________________ Liquid gray 05 ZX3-2.3 build in the works:) Sonic blue 02 SVT-RIP Classic Red 97 Miata- saving for LS1 awesome:) Boost Camel Racing...cause the bches love BOV's;) JCM Racing #310**

07-24-2006, 08:43 PM	#36
DanamaxSVT Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Orange County, California Posts: 1,571	Re: Focus On The Beach Focus Challenge Results Changed it...no change in the handicap. __________________ Silver supercharged SVT Focus and no self discipline... ...that's a huge problem. www.focuschallenge.com #693

07-24-2006, 09:00 PM	#38
OmniFocus Moderator Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Mowin' down the cones. (CA) Posts: 26,222	Re: Focus On The Beach Focus Challenge Results Uhh... Time out guys.... How come Street tires have a Handicap of 0, and the stickiest have a handicap of 4. Isn't that backwards? __________________ Check out the shiny new PirateNinjasWithLasers.com for the latest updates in 24 Hours of LeMons goodness. Vacuum Vulture Racing: We put the "rad" in scrub radius, and the "ack" in ackerman.

07-24-2006, 09:03 PM	#39
belacyrf [FJ] Addict Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Where my home is Posts: 17,300	Re: Focus On The Beach Focus Challenge Results Yes Nik just alerted me to it, I'm gonna fix it in a sec. We made the changes a while ago, just never validated it I guess. __________________ 1995 Turbocharged Miata for sale Former owner of Turbo SVTF

07-24-2006, 09:05 PM	#40
belacyrf [FJ] Addict Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Where my home is Posts: 17,300	Re: Focus On The Beach Focus Challenge Results Ok.. I changed it. __________________ 1995 Turbocharged Miata for sale Former owner of Turbo SVTF

07-24-2006, 09:06 PM	#41
OmniFocus Moderator Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Mowin' down the cones. (CA) Posts: 26,222	Re: Focus On The Beach Focus Challenge Results Looks fixed. That moved me to a 7.25 __________________ Check out the shiny new PirateNinjasWithLasers.com for the latest updates in 24 Hours of LeMons goodness. Vacuum Vulture Racing: We put the "rad" in scrub radius, and the "ack" in ackerman.

07-24-2006, 09:27 PM	#43
FocusAZ1 Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 2,400	Re: Focus On The Beach Focus Challenge Results Holy Crap...that tire change plus the weight change (assuming my SVTF with sunroof is 2800+) made me a 2.75 now. __________________ JCM Racing - "Corner Workers Needed" www.focuschallenge.com #37

07-24-2006, 10:10 PM	#45
airforcefocus [FJ] Specialist Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Moreno Valley , Calif. Posts: 5,828	Re: Focus On The Beach Focus Challenge Results Alrighty then, now with the validated handicap I have a new one. It's -0.2. __________________ http://www.redlinetrackevents.com http://www.barberdrivingexperience.com http://www.stoutperformance.net coming soon! 2008 GTI MKV2008 F-150 FX42009 Focus Coupe

07-24-2006, 10:12 PM	#46
MarcyMotorsport Former Sponsor Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: On the Dyno... Posts: 1,553	Re: Focus On The Beach Focus Challenge Results My handicap is at 4.5 as the car stood at yesterdays event. Just rechecked it on the website.

07-24-2006, 10:13 PM	#47
belacyrf [FJ] Addict Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Where my home is Posts: 17,300	Re: Focus On The Beach Focus Challenge Results That sounds about right. I'm a .75 with street tires. Without street tires I'd be -.5 or something. Remember there have been no changes to forced induction yet, and also we havent' created the "track factors" yet, which will include multipliers for different areas depending on tracks, and honestly there should be a final correction factor for temps to give the boost guys a chance. Lastly there should be a weight penalty for previous winners. I'm actually wishing this site would stay used. I really like it and wouldn't mind finishing it up. I guess it's up to Ron and Nick. __________________ 1995 Turbocharged Miata for sale Former owner of Turbo SVTF

07-24-2006, 10:49 PM	#48
DanamaxSVT Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Orange County, California Posts: 1,571	Re: Focus On The Beach Focus Challenge Results I'm at 2.5 Things are making a little more sense now. So what your saying is currently there is no correction for non-intercooled JRSC VS Intercooled units for example. I'm looking for excuses besides lack of talent when the final results are tallied. Lap times were significantly slower than my February times. __________________ Silver supercharged SVT Focus and no self discipline... ...that's a huge problem. www.focuschallenge.com #693 Last edited by DanamaxSVT : 07-24-2006 at 11:13 PM.

07-24-2006, 11:04 PM	#49
Demon4545 Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Danville/Pomona, CA Posts: 3,228	Re: Focus On The Beach Focus Challenge Results Mine has changed to a 9.75. How do the handicap and the raw lap time interact to produce results (sorry, i'm new to all of this ) ? __________________ "Release...the kitties!"