I'm thinking about doing some low octane gas saving ECU programs - Focaljet

**FocusSportVP** · 04-07-2008, 02:51 PM

As the title says, I'm kicking it around. I'm not sure how I feel about it, though, since I don't want to hear from people who claim they aren't getting any increase in mileage. I figure I should try out a few of my ideas on some cars first just to see if I think there are any gains to be had before I get too far ahead of how to handle it.

If you are local to FocusSport and I know you on a first name basis, hit me up and we'll see about doing some tests. This will only apply to NA. This will only be for our customers that bought XCal2 flashers from us directly. If you don't have a flasher, you'll have to buy one, no exceptions.

**BUR_ZX3** · 04-07-2008, 03:02 PM

I might talk my brother into this. He gets back into town tomorrow.... I'll call u.

**Cameroon** · 04-07-2008, 03:30 PM

I'm down to try that. I'll give y'all a call ASAP.

**o2_designs** · 04-07-2008, 03:39 PM

If I lived near you I would...too bad...

**decepticon** · 04-07-2008, 06:56 PM

Sounds like a great idea...keep us posted!

**ClintB1321** · 04-07-2008, 10:04 PM

does this apply for SVT foci? cause ill put mine up for testing

**FocusSportVP** · 04-07-2008, 10:27 PM

Low octane in an SVT might not be a great idea.

**ClintB1321** · 04-07-2008, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by FocusSportVP

Low octane in an SVT might not be a great idea.

thats why i asked, just wondering

**Cameroon** · 04-07-2008, 10:30 PM

I'll start logging my MPG again so I have a baseline. I've been pretty consistant at about 23mpg (near 100% LA city driving) the last year or so. Thats with an 87oct. version of the std performance tune.

**ClintB1321** · 04-07-2008, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Cameroon

I'll start logging my MPG again so I have a baseline. I've been pretty consistant at about 23mpg (near 100% LA city driving) the last year or so. Thats with an 87oct. version of the std performance tune.

STD?!

wtf kinda tune is that!

**Cameroon** · 04-08-2008, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ClintB1321

STD?!

wtf kinda tune is that!

You don't want to know, I put the plug in a shadey socket and well you know...

std = standard.

**ClintB1321** · 04-08-2008, 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cameroon

You don't want to know, I put the plug in a shadey socket and well you know...

std = standard.

**BUR_ZX3** · 04-08-2008, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Cameroon

You don't want to know... and well you know...

Wait... I'm confused. If I don't want to know... how do I know?

You know?

**TJs98GT** · 04-08-2008, 04:58 PM

a local tuner made me a low octane tune for my svt but i have yet to load it or try it since they recommend high octane fuel in it. but i figure with the adjustments to the tune it might be safe, never really wanted to try though since it would lose HP too

**BUR_ZX3** · 04-08-2008, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by TJs98GT

a local tuner made me a low octane tune for my svt but i have yet to load it or try it since they recommend high octane fuel in it. but i figure with the adjustments to the tune it might be safe, never really wanted to try though since it would lose HP too

Dood... the compression ratio on the SVT makes running anything less than 91 unsafe. Period. You can't detune compression ratio. It is what it is. If you wanna add a thicker head gasket, you can get away with a lower octane, but not through tuning.

DO NOT under any circumstances put less than 91 in an SVT.

**CTZX3** · 04-08-2008, 09:45 PM

im down, im about to order a sct from you soon,

do you think this would hinder performance??

Chris

**FocusSportVP** · 04-08-2008, 10:13 PM

This will not add performance, but it shouldn't kill any either.

**TJs98GT** · 04-09-2008, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by BUR_ZX3

Dood... the compression ratio on the SVT makes running anything less than 91 unsafe. Period. You can't detune compression ratio. It is what it is. If you wanna add a thicker head gasket, you can get away with a lower octane, but not through tuning.

DO NOT under any circumstances put less than 91 in an SVT.

exactly why i never loaded the tune, i knew the higher compression was the reason it calls for 91, i always run 93 because thats what they have by me at the shell i use. but i just dont think it would be safe to use it so i havent

**RainyZX3** · 04-09-2008, 12:53 PM

I'm not local, but when you get the programs worked out, let me know. I would be interested in your developments.

**built23duratec** · 04-10-2008, 02:45 AM

QUESTION...I have an Xcal 2 but not from focus sport. would this prevent me from getting a tune from you guyz? (assuming you follow through all the way to retail...)

**TJs98GT** · 04-10-2008, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by built23duratec

QUESTION...I have an Xcal 2 but not from focus sport. would this prevent me from getting a tune from you guyz? (assuming you follow through all the way to retail...)

on the website it says if u have an xcal2 not from focus sport you can purchase a tune from them for $100, which i may do since im only seeing 24mpg on avg with my svt

**CTZX3** · 05-01-2008, 08:19 PM

Any update Randy?

What if you have headers and intake?

**FocusSportVP** · 05-01-2008, 08:58 PM

No, I haven't bothered with this yet, I have no spare time.

**EnixStorm** · 05-02-2008, 07:14 AM

I'm so glad that my car is still down. Otherwise, gas would be destroying me right now, at like 118 miles to the gallon tops, plus having high octane, YIKES!

So anyone with a turbo have less gas mileage than me?

04-07-2008, 02:51 PM	#1
FocusSportVP Premiere Sponsor Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: The Lair of The West Coast Cult Posts: 20,822	I'm thinking about doing some low octane gas saving ECU programs As the title says, I'm kicking it around. I'm not sure how I feel about it, though, since I don't want to hear from people who claim they aren't getting any increase in mileage. I figure I should try out a few of my ideas on some cars first just to see if I think there are any gains to be had before I get too far ahead of how to handle it. If you are local to FocusSport and I know you on a first name basis, hit me up and we'll see about doing some tests. This will only apply to NA. This will only be for our customers that bought XCal2 flashers from us directly. If you don't have a flasher, you'll have to buy one, no exceptions. __________________ Best Regards, Randy Robles Vice President FocusSport / FSWerks www.focussport.com / www.fswerks.com 714.630.6353 A work in progress - The 384 WHP / 341 WTQ FocusSport Turbo ZX3 - Click me! The FocusSport Street Tuner Challenge Focus 396 WHP / 347 WTQ - Click me!

04-07-2008, 03:02 PM	#2
BUR_ZX3 [FJ] Addict Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Little Saint Clara, Isle of Queen Califia Posts: 35,713	Re: I'm thinking about doing some low octane gas saving ECU programs I might talk my brother into this. He gets back into town tomorrow.... I'll call u. __________________ Video from the final round of the Focus Challenge... Click Here

04-07-2008, 03:30 PM	#3
Cameroon [FJ] Specialist Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Wherever peculiar people congregate Posts: 5,413	Re: I'm thinking about doing some low octane gas saving ECU programs I'm down to try that. I'll give y'all a call ASAP. __________________ Any day above ground is a good one. '04 ZX5 D23E 5spd, FocusSport/SCT/ITG/VF Eng./H&R/KW/Moog/MBRP/SVT 149whp/150wtq '02 ZTS Zetec 5spd, FocusSport/ITG/SVT 115whp/120wtq "Money trumps peace" - Pres. George W. Bush Feb 14,2007 Gas was $1.47, oil $35 a barrel and the Euro was $0.85 when Bush took office.

04-07-2008, 03:39 PM	#4
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04-07-2008, 06:56 PM	#5
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04-07-2008, 10:27 PM	#7
FocusSportVP Premiere Sponsor Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: The Lair of The West Coast Cult Posts: 20,822	Re: I'm thinking about doing some low octane gas saving ECU programs Low octane in an SVT might not be a great idea. __________________ Best Regards, Randy Robles Vice President FocusSport / FSWerks www.focussport.com / www.fswerks.com 714.630.6353 A work in progress - The 384 WHP / 341 WTQ FocusSport Turbo ZX3 - Click me! The FocusSport Street Tuner Challenge Focus 396 WHP / 347 WTQ - Click me!

04-07-2008, 10:30 PM	#9
Cameroon [FJ] Specialist Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Wherever peculiar people congregate Posts: 5,413	Re: I'm thinking about doing some low octane gas saving ECU programs I'll start logging my MPG again so I have a baseline. I've been pretty consistant at about 23mpg (near 100% LA city driving) the last year or so. Thats with an 87oct. version of the std performance tune. __________________ Any day above ground is a good one. '04 ZX5 D23E 5spd, FocusSport/SCT/ITG/VF Eng./H&R/KW/Moog/MBRP/SVT 149whp/150wtq '02 ZTS Zetec 5spd, FocusSport/ITG/SVT 115whp/120wtq "Money trumps peace" - Pres. George W. Bush Feb 14,2007 Gas was $1.47, oil $35 a barrel and the Euro was $0.85 when Bush took office.

04-08-2008, 04:58 PM	#14
TJs98GT TEAM Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: North Jersey Posts: 422	Re: I'm thinking about doing some low octane gas saving ECU programs a local tuner made me a low octane tune for my svt but i have yet to load it or try it since they recommend high octane fuel in it. but i figure with the adjustments to the tune it might be safe, never really wanted to try though since it would lose HP too __________________ 1998 Mustang GT, Vortech T-Trim(16#s intercooled), Forged 302 stroker, Stage 2 Ported Polished Heads, Comp XE274 Cams, Ported/Polished Bullitt Intake Manifold, TKO Trans, 03 Cobra IRS swap. http://rides.webshots.com/album/559219923mdvdiw 2002 SVT Focus #3473 of 4788 born on 7-24-02 K&N Filter w/silencer removed, EAP HID headlights, SCT Tuned, CFM Adj STS, Black EAPs

04-08-2008, 09:45 PM	#16
CTZX3 [FJ] Specialist Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: FJ Member #93 PerryHall, Maryland Posts: 7,150	Re: I'm thinking about doing some low octane gas saving ECU programs im down, im about to order a sct from you soon, do you think this would hinder performance?? Chris __________________ WWW.CHRIS13.COM FLICKR 2004 White ZX3 2.3L Powered by Duratec

04-08-2008, 10:13 PM	#17
FocusSportVP Premiere Sponsor Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: The Lair of The West Coast Cult Posts: 20,822	Re: I'm thinking about doing some low octane gas saving ECU programs This will not add performance, but it shouldn't kill any either. __________________ Best Regards, Randy Robles Vice President FocusSport / FSWerks www.focussport.com / www.fswerks.com 714.630.6353 A work in progress - The 384 WHP / 341 WTQ FocusSport Turbo ZX3 - Click me! The FocusSport Street Tuner Challenge Focus 396 WHP / 347 WTQ - Click me!

04-09-2008, 12:53 PM	#19
RainyZX3 Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Anywhere where there is water and wind Posts: 1,106	Re: I'm thinking about doing some low octane gas saving ECU programs I'm not local, but when you get the programs worked out, let me know. I would be interested in your developments. __________________ There is a special place in hell for people who go 45 on the freeway. 2001 Silver Focus ZX3

04-10-2008, 02:45 AM	#20
built23duratec Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Citrus Heights, ca Posts: 96	Re: I'm thinking about doing some low octane gas saving ECU programs QUESTION...I have an Xcal 2 but not from focus sport. would this prevent me from getting a tune from you guyz? (assuming you follow through all the way to retail...) __________________ www.myspace.com/focalintentions '03 zx3 2.3L MM CAI, MM custom tune, 3.82 fd gears? (cant remember the exact ratio...MM put' em in for me),Magnaflow fart can, F2 RS sw body kit, SVT 5 spoke whities, dimpled/slotted front brakes, eibach sportline springs, nitto neo gen 205/40/17's, rattle-can custom interior, Alpine ICE, more to come...

05-01-2008, 08:19 PM	#22
CTZX3 [FJ] Specialist Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: FJ Member #93 PerryHall, Maryland Posts: 7,150	Re: I'm thinking about doing some low octane gas saving ECU programs Any update Randy? What if you have headers and intake? __________________ WWW.CHRIS13.COM FLICKR 2004 White ZX3 2.3L Powered by Duratec

05-01-2008, 08:58 PM	#23
FocusSportVP Premiere Sponsor Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: The Lair of The West Coast Cult Posts: 20,822	Re: I'm thinking about doing some low octane gas saving ECU programs No, I haven't bothered with this yet, I have no spare time. __________________ Best Regards, Randy Robles Vice President FocusSport / FSWerks www.focussport.com / www.fswerks.com 714.630.6353 A work in progress - The 384 WHP / 341 WTQ FocusSport Turbo ZX3 - Click me! The FocusSport Street Tuner Challenge Focus 396 WHP / 347 WTQ - Click me!

05-02-2008, 07:14 AM	#24
EnixStorm Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Jacksonville, N.C. Posts: 1,478	Re: I'm thinking about doing some low octane gas saving ECU programs I'm so glad that my car is still down. Otherwise, gas would be destroying me right now, at like 118 miles to the gallon tops, plus having high octane, YIKES! So anyone with a turbo have less gas mileage than me? __________________ -2003 SE PZEV ATX - FS 2.3l Stage 2 1/4: 13.78@100mph -2008 Mazda 3S Touring 2.3l w/VVT

05-16-2008, 02:31 AM	#25
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