DIY turbo kit list - Focaljet

**cosworth** · 11-14-2003, 07:22 PM

I thought that with the new tuning options coming out that it is time for a DIY turbo kit list.
1. Manifold options JGS precision turbo(any flange)
toms starter kit(t-3?)
graham goode racing(t-25)
any more?
2. Downpipe :
toms starter kit
any more?
3. what turbo to use?: 
depends on the application, most are using a 42/48 t-3
4. piping: 
toms starter kit(no guess work required)
JGS precision turbo(diy kits)
summit(mandrel bends)
Burns stainless
kinsler
more to come

5. Intercooler: 
JGS precision turbo(custom intercoolers)
there are alot of custom intercooler companys to
choose from.
Toms FMIC kit(comes with piping and intercooler)
More to come

6. silicone hoses :
JGS precision turbo
Turbohoses.com
Roadraceengineering.com
more to come

7. Clamps 
JGS precision turbo(t-bolt stainless)
Aeroquip dealers
Your local hardware store
more to come

8. Oil feed and drain lines 
aeroquip(build to spec)
JGS precision turbo(kits)
pegasus racing(build to spec)
transatlantic racing(build to spec)
Roadraceengineering(flanges)
9. MAF
 Mustang 99+ gt MAF
Toms MIC kit(pro-m 70mm)
Pro-m
10. Injectors
 Bosch 42lb or greater
11. wastegates(for those going external) 
Tial
HKS
Turbonetics
more to come

12. Blow off valves(or recirculating valves) 
TurboXs type Hr
Greddy type s
HKS racing
Turbonectics
Tial
more to come

13. gaskets 
turbo to manifold from any ford 2.3l turbo
oil drain(should come with kit, if not same as above)
manifold to head(ford)
14. Grade 8 high temp nuts and bolts 
your best local hardware store then to your local
machine shop to have them drilled for safety wire
15. tuning

SCT

fordchips
Toms Diablo revolution/chipmaster
more to come

16. boost controller 
TurboXs(single stage or dual)
HKS manual or electronic
Greddy manual or electronic
Joe p MBC(manual)
Hallmann
more to come
17. spark plugs 
Motorcraft azfs22c 1 step colder(or 2?)
Autolite part#??
more to come

**zx3focusguy** · 11-14-2003, 07:30 PM

sounds like a good list.....dont forget #17
headache upon headache upon headach upon headache upon headache! But in the end it's all worth good planning!

**CCC** · 11-14-2003, 09:19 PM

Great list...that helps me out alot...since I was starting of thinging of going with a DYI kit using Toms stuff as my basis...I still haven;t decided but the list sure clears some stuff up.

CCC

**Turbozx3Tom** · 11-14-2003, 10:29 PM

cosworth hiya doing are saying the exhaust gasket to the manifold any 2.3l turbo, and why is it made of a better material for sealing on an FI application , thanks

**zx3focusguy** · 11-15-2003, 12:45 AM

I think he is refering to the turbo gaskets. You can buy the turbo gasket kit (felpro) from autozone etc and it comes with the mounting gasket (turbo to manifold) oil inlet and outlet gaskets and also the compressor inlet and outlet gasktes (ford style with bolt on inlet and outlet) Thats what I buy for my car, just tell them I need a turbo gasket kit for a 1984 Tbird turbocoupe. And, the complet kit is only $6.00

**CCC** · 11-15-2003, 01:58 AM

So every turbo has its own specific flange??? So just buying a turbo and a manifold doesn't exactly work just that simply then huh?

CCC

**SLPR** · 11-15-2003, 01:46 PM

Wanting to help out......some things you may want to add

Intercoolers-
Precision
PWR

BOV-
Tial BOV

wastegates-
Deltagate external WG (although I'd stick to Tial)

turbo hoses-
http://www.turbohoses.com/ (expensive but excellent quality)
http://www.atpturbo.bigstep.com/home.html

oil feed/drain line fittings and hose-
http://www.turbohoses.com/
http://www.amstreetrod.com/
Summit Racing and Jegs also

Flanges, DIY turbo parts, gaskets, etc-
http://www.roadraceengineering.com/

**zx3focusguy** · 11-15-2003, 01:46 PM

Nope....unfortunatly not.... your T3 flange is going to be your most polular style and readibly available....

**CCC** · 11-15-2003, 04:07 PM

What turbo are most people using with the Foci. T3/T4 I think is most popular...but what are the specs that most are using (a/r, etc). Are T4s too big???

CCC

**zx3focusguy** · 11-15-2003, 07:18 PM

T3/T4 is an oversized turbo for a focus in most cases.. T3 seems to be just right. My car has a .63/.60 stg 1. Toms kit uses a T3 but noone know what the specs are, he will not TELL!!

**CCC** · 11-15-2003, 07:40 PM

I've spent all day searching throught the FI forum and read alot about the T3/T4 as well as the T3 Super 60 which Tom actually dropped a small hint about in one of the threads!!! But my question is where can you get these turbos...what am I looking at in terms of price for a turbo...I've seen $550-$2000+, knowing that some of the super prices are for ceramic BBs and such. Thanks...

CCC

**cosworth** · 11-15-2003, 11:20 PM

thanks for the help SL i added them to the list, i will clean up the post later and try to add as many websites as possible to simplify it for all. And thanks for clearing up the felpro gasket set(the one I was speaking of

)
please choose your turbo with care as a t3/t4 hybrid is a big turbo

**zx3focusguy** · 11-15-2003, 11:22 PM

Well, to be honest, I started mine with a turbocoupe turbo off an I believe its an 85 and older tbird. (garrett, not similar IHI RH5) Has the .63 turbine housing, .60 comp housing. THen upgraded the compressor housing to one with slip on couplers. Got turbo for free, rebuilt it myself, bought new comp housing for $140 from turbonetics...total cost $250

**CCC** · 11-15-2003, 11:45 PM

So how good is Ebay when looking for turbos???

Example:

Ebay T3 Super 60
Ebay T3
Ebay T3 Super 60

CCC

**lourenco** · 11-16-2003, 01:48 AM

A t3/t4 stage 3 turbo with .48 a/r ratio may have full boost at 4,000 rpms on a zx3. I would think a big t3 turbo would spool around 3,000 rpms or so. A person would need to purchase a dual ball bearing t3/t4 to make the turbo spool 1,000 rpms sooner like the big t3 turbo.

A dual ball bearing t3/t4 at that point would have the low end power of a t3 with much better top end power. The only thing is it will cost around $1,920 for that turbo from innovative turbo.

**axman** · 11-16-2003, 06:48 AM

i see the turbo on ebay for around 300.
and w/ toms diy kit and mic setup you could turbo for around 3500.. what would one need to mount a turbo such as the t3 super 60 to toms diy kit? anyone?

**1turbofocus** · 11-16-2003, 09:00 AM

A T3 will bolt right up to it

Tom

**zx3focusguy** · 11-16-2003, 10:47 AM

yeah, what he siad. I have seen several NEW super 60's on ebay from reputable sellers for $396.00 Thats really a good deal, IMO..

**axman** · 11-16-2003, 11:57 AM

ok so a t3 will bolt right up
So if i get Toms DIY kit, MIC setup, a t3 turbo, what else would i need/ what kind of blow off valve? and anything else???
thanx

**zx3focusguy** · 11-16-2003, 05:01 PM

Well, Tom could probably tell you better than I but this is my theroy. You should need a blow off valve (greddy, approx cost $229) wastegate (turbonetics, approx cost $225)
I am unsure if toms starter kit comes with oil lines or not, but if not add another $75-$100 and that should cover most of your major items. Don't for get to budget for a new flex and exhaust, atleast in the near future after installing the turbo..

**1turbofocus** · 11-16-2003, 06:15 PM

There is a list of every thing that DOES come in the piping kit on my website

Any thing NOT in that list you will need

Tom

**cosworth** · 11-17-2003, 08:39 PM

tom do you offer any other flange options(t25 etc...) for your DIY kit? this info will help people choose the right kit for their application.

**CCC** · 11-18-2003, 12:00 AM

Probably the umbest Q EVER....buuuuuuuut...when you buy just a turbo...does the difference between the directions the housings face ever change? I'm talking about how the end part of each the compressor and turbine side of the turbo face in a cetain direction are they the dame on each and every turbo or not?

I ask because if I were to buy a turbo from say Ebay or even a manufacturer...how do i kno that the piping from Tom's starter kit will be matched for this certain turbo? If they all face the same direction then I won't worry...it just seemed that they might not be the same from turbo to turbo...but I guess that would make it difficult to make bolt on turbos...thanks for the info in advance.

CCC

*EDIT* Just for reference of differnt turbos...

**1turbofocus** · 11-18-2003, 07:21 AM

CCC, You can clock the turbos and line them up where the pressure side needs to be located then tighten the bolts up

I only offer the t3 style flange

Tom

**zx3focusguy** · 11-18-2003, 08:26 AM

Just remember though, if it has an internal wastegate (which if your using toms starter, you will most likely be using external) is really difficult to clock them.

11-14-2003, 07:30 PM	#2
zx3focusguy Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Morganton, NC Posts: 3,530	Re: DIY turbo kit list sounds like a good list.....dont forget #17 headache upon headache upon headach upon headache upon headache! But in the end it's all worth good planning!

11-14-2003, 09:19 PM	#3
CCC Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 2,594	Re: DIY turbo kit list Great list...that helps me out alot...since I was starting of thinging of going with a DYI kit using Toms stuff as my basis...I still haven;t decided but the list sure clears some stuff up. CCC

11-14-2003, 10:29 PM	#4
Turbozx3Tom Rookie Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: South Beloit, Il Posts: 15	Re: DIY turbo kit list cosworth hiya doing are saying the exhaust gasket to the manifold any 2.3l turbo, and why is it made of a better material for sealing on an FI application , thanks

11-15-2003, 12:45 AM	#5
zx3focusguy Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Morganton, NC Posts: 3,530	Re: DIY turbo kit list I think he is refering to the turbo gaskets. You can buy the turbo gasket kit (felpro) from autozone etc and it comes with the mounting gasket (turbo to manifold) oil inlet and outlet gaskets and also the compressor inlet and outlet gasktes (ford style with bolt on inlet and outlet) Thats what I buy for my car, just tell them I need a turbo gasket kit for a 1984 Tbird turbocoupe. And, the complet kit is only $6.00

11-15-2003, 01:58 AM	#6
CCC Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 2,594	Re: DIY turbo kit list So every turbo has its own specific flange??? So just buying a turbo and a manifold doesn't exactly work just that simply then huh? CCC

11-14-2003, 07:22 PM	#1
cosworth TEAM Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: knee deep in turbo goodness Posts: 871	DIY turbo kit list I thought that with the new tuning options coming out that it is time for a DIY turbo kit list. 1. <font color="green"> Manifold options </font> JGS precision turbo(any flange) toms starter kit(t-3?) graham goode racing(t-25) any more? 2. <font color="orange"> Downpipe </font> : toms starter kit any more? 3. <font color="brown"> what turbo to use?: </font> depends on the application, most are using a 42/48 t-3 4. <font color="pink"> piping: </font> toms starter kit(no guess work required) JGS precision turbo(diy kits) summit(mandrel bends) Burns stainless kinsler more to come 5. <font color="orange"> Intercooler: </font> JGS precision turbo(custom intercoolers) there are alot of custom intercooler companys to choose from. Toms FMIC kit(comes with piping and intercooler) More to come 6. <font color="blue"> silicone hoses </font> : JGS precision turbo Turbohoses.com Roadraceengineering.com more to come 7. <font color="purple"> Clamps </font> JGS precision turbo(t-bolt stainless) Aeroquip dealers Your local hardware store more to come 8. <font color="red"> Oil feed and drain lines </font> aeroquip(build to spec) JGS precision turbo(kits) pegasus racing(build to spec) transatlantic racing(build to spec) Roadraceengineering(flanges) 9. <font color="yellow"> MAF </font> Mustang 99+ gt MAF Toms MIC kit(pro-m 70mm) Pro-m 10. <font color="green"> Injectors </font> Bosch 42lb or greater 11. <font color="blue"> wastegates(for those going external) </font> Tial HKS Turbonetics more to come 12. <font color="brown"> Blow off valves(or recirculating valves) </font> TurboXs type Hr Greddy type s HKS racing Turbonectics Tial more to come 13. <font color="#666666"> gaskets </font> turbo to manifold from any ford 2.3l turbo oil drain(should come with kit, if not same as above) manifold to head(ford) 14. <font color="yellow"> Grade 8 high temp nuts and bolts </font> your best local hardware store then to your local machine shop to have them drilled for safety wire 15. <font color="red"> tuning </font> SCT fordchips Toms Diablo revolution/chipmaster more to come 16. <font color="pink"> boost controller </font> TurboXs(single stage or dual) HKS manual or electronic Greddy manual or electronic Joe p MBC(manual) Hallmann more to come 17. <font color="orange"> spark plugs </font> Motorcraft azfs22c 1 step colder(or 2?) Autolite part#?? more to come

11-15-2003, 01:46 PM	#7
SLPR Rookie Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: IL Posts: 44	Re: DIY turbo kit list Wanting to help out......some things you may want to add Intercoolers- Precision PWR BOV- Tial BOV wastegates- Deltagate external WG (although I'd stick to Tial) turbo hoses- http://www.turbohoses.com/ (expensive but excellent quality) http://www.atpturbo.bigstep.com/home.html oil feed/drain line fittings and hose- http://www.turbohoses.com/ http://www.amstreetrod.com/ Summit Racing and Jegs also Flanges, DIY turbo parts, gaskets, etc- http://www.roadraceengineering.com/

11-15-2003, 01:46 PM	#8
zx3focusguy Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Morganton, NC Posts: 3,530	Re: DIY turbo kit list Nope....unfortunatly not.... your T3 flange is going to be your most polular style and readibly available....

11-15-2003, 04:07 PM	#9
CCC Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 2,594	Re: DIY turbo kit list What turbo are most people using with the Foci. T3/T4 I think is most popular...but what are the specs that most are using (a/r, etc). Are T4s too big??? CCC

11-15-2003, 07:18 PM	#10
zx3focusguy Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Morganton, NC Posts: 3,530	Re: DIY turbo kit list T3/T4 is an oversized turbo for a focus in most cases.. T3 seems to be just right. My car has a .63/.60 stg 1. Toms kit uses a T3 but noone know what the specs are, he will not TELL!!

11-15-2003, 07:40 PM	#11
CCC Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 2,594	Re: DIY turbo kit list I've spent all day searching throught the FI forum and read alot about the T3/T4 as well as the T3 Super 60 which Tom actually dropped a small hint about in one of the threads!!! But my question is where can you get these turbos...what am I looking at in terms of price for a turbo...I've seen $550-$2000+, knowing that some of the super prices are for ceramic BBs and such. Thanks... CCC

11-15-2003, 11:20 PM	#12
cosworth TEAM Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: knee deep in turbo goodness Posts: 871	Re: DIY turbo kit list thanks for the help SL i added them to the list, i will clean up the post later and try to add as many websites as possible to simplify it for all. And thanks for clearing up the felpro gasket set(the one I was speaking of ) please choose your turbo with care as a t3/t4 hybrid is a big turbo

11-15-2003, 11:22 PM	#13
zx3focusguy Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Morganton, NC Posts: 3,530	Re: DIY turbo kit list Well, to be honest, I started mine with a turbocoupe turbo off an I believe its an 85 and older tbird. (garrett, not similar IHI RH5) Has the .63 turbine housing, .60 comp housing. THen upgraded the compressor housing to one with slip on couplers. Got turbo for free, rebuilt it myself, bought new comp housing for $140 from turbonetics...total cost $250

11-15-2003, 11:45 PM	#14
CCC Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 2,594	Re: DIY turbo kit list So how good is Ebay when looking for turbos??? Example: Ebay T3 Super 60 Ebay T3 Ebay T3 Super 60 CCC

11-16-2003, 01:48 AM	#15
lourenco Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: USA Posts: 1,394	Re: DIY turbo kit list A t3/t4 stage 3 turbo with .48 a/r ratio may have full boost at 4,000 rpms on a zx3. I would think a big t3 turbo would spool around 3,000 rpms or so. A person would need to purchase a dual ball bearing t3/t4 to make the turbo spool 1,000 rpms sooner like the big t3 turbo. A dual ball bearing t3/t4 at that point would have the low end power of a t3 with much better top end power. The only thing is it will cost around $1,920 for that turbo from innovative turbo.

11-16-2003, 06:48 AM	#16
axman TEAM Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cornwall, CT Posts: 119	Re: DIY turbo kit list i see the turbo on ebay for around 300. and w/ toms diy kit and mic setup you could turbo for around 3500.. what would one need to mount a turbo such as the t3 super 60 to toms diy kit? anyone?

11-16-2003, 09:00 AM	#17
1turbofocus [FJ] Specialist Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: N. BELMONT NC, GASTON Posts: 5,389	Re: DIY turbo kit list A T3 will bolt right up to it Tom

11-16-2003, 10:47 AM	#18
zx3focusguy Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Morganton, NC Posts: 3,530	Re: DIY turbo kit list yeah, what he siad. I have seen several NEW super 60's on ebay from reputable sellers for $396.00 Thats really a good deal, IMO..

11-16-2003, 11:57 AM	#19
axman TEAM Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cornwall, CT Posts: 119	Re: DIY turbo kit list ok so a t3 will bolt right up So if i get Toms DIY kit, MIC setup, a t3 turbo, what else would i need/ what kind of blow off valve? and anything else??? thanx

11-16-2003, 05:01 PM	#20
zx3focusguy Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Morganton, NC Posts: 3,530	Re: DIY turbo kit list Well, Tom could probably tell you better than I but this is my theroy. You should need a blow off valve (greddy, approx cost $229) wastegate (turbonetics, approx cost $225) I am unsure if toms starter kit comes with oil lines or not, but if not add another $75-$100 and that should cover most of your major items. Don't for get to budget for a new flex and exhaust, atleast in the near future after installing the turbo..

11-16-2003, 06:15 PM	#21
1turbofocus [FJ] Specialist Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: N. BELMONT NC, GASTON Posts: 5,389	Re: DIY turbo kit list There is a list of every thing that DOES come in the piping kit on my website Any thing NOT in that list you will need Tom

11-17-2003, 08:39 PM	#22
cosworth TEAM Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: knee deep in turbo goodness Posts: 871	Re: DIY turbo kit list tom do you offer any other flange options(t25 etc...) for your DIY kit? this info will help people choose the right kit for their application.

11-18-2003, 12:00 AM	#23
CCC Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 2,594	Re: DIY turbo kit list Probably the umbest Q EVER....buuuuuuuut...when you buy just a turbo...does the difference between the directions the housings face ever change? I'm talking about how the end part of each the compressor and turbine side of the turbo face in a cetain direction are they the dame on each and every turbo or not? I ask because if I were to buy a turbo from say Ebay or even a manufacturer...how do i kno that the piping from Tom's starter kit will be matched for this certain turbo? If they all face the same direction then I won't worry...it just seemed that they might not be the same from turbo to turbo...but I guess that would make it difficult to make bolt on turbos...thanks for the info in advance. CCC EDIT Just for reference of differnt turbos...

11-18-2003, 07:21 AM	#24
1turbofocus [FJ] Specialist Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: N. BELMONT NC, GASTON Posts: 5,389	Re: DIY turbo kit list CCC, You can clock the turbos and line them up where the pressure side needs to be located then tighten the bolts up I only offer the t3 style flange Tom

11-18-2003, 08:26 AM	#25
zx3focusguy Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Morganton, NC Posts: 3,530	Re: DIY turbo kit list Just remember though, if it has an internal wastegate (which if your using toms starter, you will most likely be using external) is really difficult to clock them.

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