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Old 06-16-2004, 03:08 PM   #1
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Default Precision Turbo Kit Part 1 - Components

This is the first part of a series on the Precision kit.

I got my Precision kit last night and went through it. Here are the first impressions:

The air filter is a pre-oiled conical K&N unit - that thing is HUGE! The filter is connected by 3" tube to the GT28R.

All cold tubing and the (cast) plenum are aluminum. All tube ends are bead rolled. I only found one welded connection in the cold tubing - in the center of the 3" air intake tube. The charge tubing consist of 3 pieces total of 2" tube, plus the cast intake plenum that goes from 2" up to ~3" or whatever the throttle body actually is.

I didn't see anything in the way of support tabs or brackets for the aluminum tubing so we'll see how that turns out during the install.

All hose connections under 3" diameter are by T-bolt clamps, 3" and over use worm type clamps but of the style that does not cause the hose to exude out through slits in the band.

The intercooler is 18" x 6 3/8" x 3.5" and has cast end tanks. I am a little skeptical about the wellnut mounting method for the intercooler - I may add a supplementary mount, or just substitute nuts and bolts where the wellnuts are supposed to be used.

The header and down pipe are stainless coated with titanium of some kind. The finish looks very nice. The down pipe is 2" in diameter. A header-to-head gasket is included, gaskets are not used on the header-to-turbine or tubine-to-downpipe connections.

There is a stout bracket that supports the lower (turbine end) header flange by bolting it to the block. It appears to be ceramic coated - looks very nice.

The internal wastegate actuator has a threaded arm to allow some boost adjustment. The instructions explain how to preset this arm for 8-10 PSI.

Oil is carried from the back of the block (by the starter) to the turbo via 2 prebent hard lines. Oil is returned by a Hitachi oil pump (Edit for those that have enquired: "Hitachi T-Type Oil Pump, 742-4839" - mine also says MFG No. 000151 which may just be a serial number) via braided stainless hoses that are terminated with real pressure connectors - not faux aluminum shielded hose clamps. The pump uses a simple 2 wire connector for power. There is a US made "Digi-Set" timer/relay of some sort that will cause the pump to run for a few minutes after engine shut down.

A new Ford oil seperator is included. It has a threaded nipple TIG welded on for the oil return line. Here is something for you Eric - According to the instructions it also must have some kind of modified or alternate PCV valve as it is warned that the supplied one must be used instead of the factory valve (?)... the part number of the supplied valve is AC Delco Type CV-893C.

There are some beautifully done prebent stainless hard lines to plumb water into and out of the turbo.

All in all it appears that someone went to alot of effort to try and ensure the component quality was about as good as could be sourced. I am left with a very good first impression of the parts and materials selected.

One hang up I found so far - my car does not have air conditioning and the oil pump bracket is designed to bolt to the AC pump. I guess Foci without AC are rare? This means that I will have to fab up my own bracket. Not a big deal, this will actually work in my favor as I will be able to gain a little ground clearance (I have a Cup Kit suspension) by moving the pump back closer to the block, but something potential buyers should be prepared for. Precision is express shipping me a longer oil return line (no-charge) to allow this relocation reward.

Next installment... Installation

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Old 06-16-2004, 03:52 PM   #2
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Congratulations on the arival of the kit! Im glad everything looks good, and hope the insall goes smooth.

Cant wait to see it run.
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Old 06-16-2004, 03:58 PM   #3
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Great Write-Up

That downpipe seems really small however, but hopefully it will work out ok. I cant till the next issue !
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Old 06-16-2004, 04:06 PM   #4
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Great Write-Up

That downpipe seems really small however, but hopefully it will work out ok. I cant till the next issue !

that's what I was thinking 2" and 10psi? Can we say restriction?
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Old 06-16-2004, 05:44 PM   #5
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I will have to see how that down pipe works out. ATP Turbo was running 295WHP on their 1.8 Quatro project car with its original 2.25" exhuast... so who knows?

I will be running it into a 2.25" flex and 2.5" Borla system initially. After testing, if I can't reach my desired output of 230whp I may redo the entire exhaust from turbo to tailpipe with 3" - to the tune of close to $1K, so I'll try what I got first. Should be interesting.
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Old 06-16-2004, 05:51 PM   #6
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I will have to see how that down pipe works out. ATP Turbo was running 295WHP on their 1.8 Quatro project car with its original 2.25" exhuast... so who knows?

I will be running it into a 2.25" flex and 2.5" Borla system initially. After testing, if I can't reach my desired output of 230whp I may redo the entire exhaust from turbo to tailpipe with 3" - to the tune of close to $1K, so I'll try what I got first. Should be interesting.



1k for just an exhaust and downpipe?
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Old 06-16-2004, 07:21 PM   #7
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I really like my Precision kit. The install was easy. Just buy some really good drill bits for the intercooler install. The bumper is made of some really hard metal. The mounts work fine on my car.
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Old 06-16-2004, 07:33 PM   #8
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Bow - That $1K would be for $200 worth of stainless parts (flange, transition w/v-band connection, 3 90 degree 3" CLR bends) to build a 3" down pipe, ~$700 for stainless Trubendz flex and exhaust with shipping, and $100 more just because it always cost at least that much more than what you had planned.
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Old 06-16-2004, 08:00 PM   #9
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Bow - That $1K would be for $200 worth of stainless parts (flange, transition w/v-band connection, 3 90 degree 3" CLR bends) to build a 3" down pipe, ~$700 for stainless Trubendz flex and exhaust with shipping, and $100 more just because it always cost at least that much more than what you had planned.


Theres a guy selling a new SS 3" Trubendz setup in the Classifieds for CHEAP! and I think he's selling the flex too .
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Old 06-16-2004, 08:46 PM   #10
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I can not remember if you talked about this in your first post, but are you going to switch it to an external wastegate?
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Old 06-16-2004, 09:32 PM   #11
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I have no plans to go to an external unless it proves to be needed. I will be operating this turbo well within its intended limits and I have no reason to question Garrett's engineering yet. Harry at Precision told me it holds boost rock solid.
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Old 06-17-2004, 01:54 AM   #12
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one thing that I have noticed about the kit that seems a bit off is the flange that they use between the turbo and the downpipe...seems that they could have done a better job with the flow by adding at least a bump of some kind into the internally regualted waste gate. As I see it now, the exhaust has to flow out of the turbo, turn 90*, and turn 90* again to make it into the exhaust flow...
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Old 06-17-2004, 08:57 AM   #13
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We also had some concern about this 2" downpipe on our car....we have trubendz 3" and flex. If necessary we may fab a 3" downpipe . Should have final dyno results with the 2" in the next day or two. We replaced the supplied injectors and the factory rail when we ran out of fuel at 190whp on the auto trans, so we'll see what that nets.
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Old 06-17-2004, 11:03 AM   #14
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Theres a guy selling a new SS 3" Trubendz setup in the Classifieds for CHEAP! and I think he's selling the flex too .


Nope thats Sold

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Old 06-17-2004, 01:48 PM   #15
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how does the piping run? i mean from the turbo to intercooler to throttle body? does it go over the top of the engine to the throttle body, over the tranny, or under the engine (like the AC)

congrats on the new toy... i dont know who i am going to bug now with my AC problems but i cant wait to see the numbers you put out

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Old 01-28-2006, 04:13 PM   #16
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Bumping this thread for someone who asked for some info from it.
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added to the references, just in case
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