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What would be the negative effects of running a single side pipe behind the passenger-side tire from the flexpipe or directly from the turbo? (I was thinking about 3") How would this affect my turbo setup?
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it would just be loud
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Wrong forum too buddy. I have 3" pipe from the downpipe back, and it exits the rear of the car, but is still extremely loud. This is with no muffler or resonator of any kind, so if you're looking to do it that way, I'd watch out for the POLICE, cuz you WILL get pulled over.
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Sorry about that. I had been on the CFM website and thought these questions were for them to answer. They've been very helpful. I know a sidepipe wouldn't be anywhere near legal. I just wanted to make sure it wouldn't affect the turbo setup. |
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He's talking dumping the wastegate to the atmosphere, not full exhaust. |
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yeah it'll be pretty loud... extremelly actually, I'd use it in race purposes only, it'd help your turbo spool quicker by a couple hundred RPMs but its not worth the noise IMO.
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my wastegate is dumped to the atmosphere its not that bad
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yeah, I bet it's pretty quiet until you hit full boost, wg opens and then that thing roars
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read much? He plainly states in his post that he is thinking about 3".... Now, I dont know where you are from, or what ricers you've been talking to, but a 3" wastegate dump I can assure you is retarded.
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agreed
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![]() ![]() ![]() One example, I like, it looks good. Not sure how it sounds though...
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I think thats a silly way to do an exhaust... ford did recals on trucks that put the exhaust before the wheel because they cause it to rust... it'd be a waste to see anythink go wrong with the tire in the middle of driving
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I have a 2.5 inch dp only for the past month. The sounds it makes are orgasmic. Yes it is loud, but not ricey at all, very deep with the turbo. It LOVES high rpms, and doesn't sound great in the begining, but not too bad. Within the next week or two, I am going to finish the exhaust....2.5 inch mandral bent (one 45 and one 90) and its going to look exactly like that svt pic...only on the right hand side.
Oh yea, I have 1999 ford escort turbo.
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Damn, that svt side exhaust is freaking sweet. That is an awesome job. Wish my side exhaust looked like that!!
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+1 That has to be one of the best looking side exits I've seen on a Focus. Kinda has me wanting to copy it... I'd just be worried about the heat from it melting the Urathane of the side skirt. I know my exhaust gets HAWT!!!!
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The SVT Lightning had a dual side setup, right? This is exactly what I was asking for. I knew an open exhaust would be loud. The problem is that I've only seen videos of side exhausts and haven't heard one (from a boosted 4 cylinder) in person that didn't have a cat or muffler. I spent way too much on my 5Zigen wheels to have them destroyed by the exhaust. Both the wastegate and BOV are closed loop. That SVT side exit does look sweet. What if I did it right behind the front wheel?
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Will you guys castrate me if I ask about one of those electronic switch-overs that let you change from regular exhaust to open exhaust? I just want to try something that no one else around me has.
I have no problem with SRT4s (occasionally with the people that drive them), it's just that everyone by my house has one. My car has more power and is lighter, plus it still cost less to build. (I started with a 2004 ZX3 Zetec with 32 miles for $11,249) Thanks for your opinions.
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The exhaust heat wont do anything to that tire. The little bit of heat that the tire gets from the exhaust wouldnt be any worse than the heat it gets from the street from driving on it.
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I was going to go for a side exit out the front bumper. But it was just too much.
Didn't someone have a pic of thier car with a nice SS flame gaurd on the side of thier front bumper. I mean the "O" that would go around the exhaust pipe.
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I just finished my 2.5" exhaust all the way back with some no name muffer on it...it's pretty deep and louds sounds pretty mean. It's loud but not like ricer loud
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That was WELDING RODs car. ![]() Definetly one of the better bumper exits I've seen. Here another one from a jetter, but I dont remember his username: ![]() I know that WeldingRods was a dump for the wastegate, but I'm not too sure about the black car. BOth of them look sweet as hell though.
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First of, the SVT Lightning had about 9-11 inches of clearance. I have a 97 F-150 that had more, something like 6 inches of clearance. And the tire looked different for one, and the center wheel hub, that covers the lug nuts for those that wonder. Anyways, it got so hot the paint pealed off that side. Coincidence? Not when i switched them up and the next one started to peal.
Give your self a MINIMUM of 12 inches or you will cause minor, and at high speeds, deadly problems. No tire wear, warpage, or noticable difference. But my drivers side was always the one tire that would spin. Other side where the exauhst came out was always warm and gripping. |
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^^^That solves everything
I thought I couldn't do a tq stand in my truck because it was 6,000 lb, had 33" tires and tall gears. It makes sense that I always have drag slicks because I have dual side pipes.NOT. The wheels may be a bit darker but not because of egt's (rich condition). The carbon wipes right off. Directly above both of my mufflers, the floor gets hot enough to almost melt shoes, but not down wind of that. I bet if I drove your truck I'd light up that driver's side. On an open diff, one tire almost always spins unless force is even on both sides. Most rwd vehicles spin the passenger side because the driveline torques the axel just enough to relieve the some pressure on that side. If egt's were that bad, we would be melting our plastic bumpers. A side dump at the front bumper would have a heat problem, hence the reason for the aluminum shield. A side dump before the rear tire is not much closer than out the rear. ^^^That SVT side dump is the only side dump I have seen on a small car that looks decent. I like it a lot.
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