Super Snail - Bela Round 2 (pics galore) - Focaljet

**belacyrf** · 05-09-2006, 04:07 PM

Ok well as everyone knows my car is the devil. I've had the toughest time getting things working with my car with bad parts here and there, but this is the start of round two!!

I have my parts from Super Snail back, and all I can say is if there is better welding out there, I'm sure I couldn't imagine it. I am so impressed with the quality of these parts I can't put it into words. The manifold is STOUT. Just holding it you can feel the solidity.

The welds are beautiful, the coating is very nice (for now of course, they always go ugly once they burn). The design is excellent!!

This manifold was done in 304 Stainless using .109 wall material! That gives alot of meat to weld into. Obiouvsly with thicker steel, heat retention (causing more expansion) could be an issue over timem, but we'll see what the trade off is.

I'll have more pics once the parts are on the car. Unfortunately it'll be a while, I'm out of town this weekend. But I can't wait to hear the car start again and actually boost again.

Here are the pics:

This is a pic of everything. The new turbo is a GT28RS again w/ T3 exhaust housing using a .69 A/R on the exhaust side. This should spool slightly quicker than the previous one at .83 A/R.

Here are various views of the manifold:

Here is the downpipe. I can't tell you how much I love the flex WG dump pipe!! Maybe it's just me, but I think it's uber cool!!

So obviously you can see the parts are excellent. I wont be able to share the whole story of this deal as it's long and boring, but I can tell anyone looking to use these guys... they are quality people. Not just their workmanship but they as people are awesome. Dealing with companies is always hit and miss when you dont know the integrity of the people you are dealing with. The guys at SuperSnail really stand out as a company you can definately trust!

**acnon** · 05-09-2006, 04:10 PM

The flex-dump pipe is indeed uber-cool!!!

AWESOME MAN!!!

:thumbup :

**Winkty** · 05-09-2006, 04:16 PM

Glad you like the stuff, Bela.

We try our hardest to put quality in everything we do.

I really don't think you'll have a problem with cracking...but we all know with welding and heat....it's a hit or miss. Only thing i worry about is the heat wrap.

No matter what, you know we have you covered.

**CHIBULLSAN** · 05-09-2006, 04:23 PM

Looks great! I cant wait to see pics onthe car!!! Im glad your happy!

PS.... Dont heat wrap it! it looks and works with out it

**REDFOCZ** · 05-09-2006, 04:33 PM

Thats a damn nice manifold right there, cant wait to see it on the car.

**belacyrf** · 05-09-2006, 04:43 PM

I'm not going to wrap it right off... I'm going to test it out as is.

If under hood temps are to high, I will either wrap it or buy a vented hood.

Hmmmm $30.00 or $500.00... tough decision

**slidemaster** · 05-09-2006, 04:46 PM

Man its good to see you get started again!
Good luck

**Spatakula** · 05-09-2006, 04:51 PM

i am jealous!!!

can wait to see the finshed product. hopefully youll have better luck with this setup.

-spatakula

**FocusSportVP** · 05-09-2006, 04:59 PM

Looking good as usual Clint.

Alright David, we gonna rock this on the dyno or what?

**belacyrf** · 05-09-2006, 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FocusSportVP

Looking good as usual Clint.

Alright David, we gonna rock this on the dyno or what?

As soon as I get the parts on the car, you will be the 1st person I call haha

**02_smurf** · 05-09-2006, 05:06 PM

SWEET! Someone give the spiders their eviction notice!!

**BUR_ZX3** · 05-09-2006, 05:12 PM

I can't wait to see her rise again!

This time... there will be no stopping you David!!!!!

Clint, Aaron. EXCELLENT work boys! You guys are sooooooooooo who I'm talking to when I turbo this beotch!

**hkysk8r07** · 05-09-2006, 05:21 PM

noice. is that a EGT hook-up put into the manifold??

**w00w00** · 05-09-2006, 05:23 PM

good job ssf. my only thing is that youll be cramped for space getting the wg on and off, not exactly alot of room to turn a wrench.

**BUR_ZX3** · 05-09-2006, 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hkysk8r07

noice. is that a EGT hook-up put into the manifold??

That'd be my guess.

**CatMostFeared** · 05-09-2006, 05:27 PM

thats cool cant wait to see more.
What turbo are you running

**belacyrf** · 05-09-2006, 05:32 PM

Yes that is a port for an EGT gauge. You can't see it, but there is also a port for my wideband O2 sensor in the downpipe.

Turbo is a GT28RS... back in the day it was a rare thing using this turbo.. now everyone and their mother has it hehe

Quote:

Originally Posted by w00w00

good job ssf. my only thing is that youll be cramped for space getting the wg on and off, not exactly alot of room to turn a wrench.

Well actually this is where SuperSnail shines (or at least I think they did, we'll see hehe).

I already have my turbo setup. The location of the turbo and etc were pre-defined. So they had to make me a setup that fit within my already existing constraints. From a first glance it looks like the turbo is going to be in a slightly differently location, but nothing that hump hoses can't fix.

Had I been back at the very very beginning not having any parts for the car. I would have shipped off my turbo, wastegate, and intercooler and said "build me my full kit" that way they could do what they wanted and it would probably have been bad-ass... not to mention it would have cost me several thousands less in the overall scheme of things.

If people learn only one thing from my experience, I hope its to use ONE VENDOR for the full setup. Do not try and piece meal stuff together. Just doesnt work.

**orangeZXT** · 05-09-2006, 05:44 PM

good job winkly u guys do some great stuff

**Winkty** · 05-09-2006, 06:04 PM

Bela,

I'll let you in on a little secret. The turbo IS in a different location, but ONLY the exhaust housing.

1st - We bolted up all your old stuff and made a bracket that went from two of the compressor housing bolts...to the block.

2nd - We removed the old manifold and downpipe and left the turbo hanging ONLY off the bracket we made.

3rd - We rotated the exhaust housing to be nice and flat. It's easier to work with and nicer to look at. THATS why we bolted it to the compressor housing. Your compressor housing should be right in the same spot...and it didn't matter how we moved the exhaust housing.

Cool?

**belacyrf** · 05-09-2006, 06:05 PM

Oh that will be very cool!!!

Well I'm going to make a valiant effort to do as much during the week this week as I can to get stuff mounted. My poor car is so covered with dust it's sad.

**OrangeSVT03** · 05-09-2006, 06:25 PM

I dont see an INTAKE MANIFOLD in the pics anywhere........

J/K As usual everything looks UBER nice and I can vouch that SSF's quality is seconds to none... looks like I'll be calling them soon... again

**Winkty** · 05-09-2006, 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by w00w00

good job ssf. my only thing is that youll be cramped for space getting the wg on and off, not exactly alot of room to turn a wrench.

Socket head cap screws are your friend.

**belacyrf** · 05-09-2006, 06:27 PM

Hey I asked... they turned me down. Apparently word is getting out that these guys are pretty good, and there just isn't enough time in the day

**Winkty** · 05-09-2006, 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by belacyrf

Hey I asked... they turned me down. Apparently word is getting out that these guys are pretty good, and there just isn't enough time in the day

I will make you one....just give me some time.

**Evan_Murphy** · 05-09-2006, 06:38 PM

that downpipe looks awfully fimiliar hehehhe, everything looks awesome. I and really second Super Snails personal buisness, just very nice to deal with and very helpful. Belacyrf im jealous, your turbo is gonna spool so much faster than mine, well at least mine is shiny

05-09-2006, 04:07 PM	#1
belacyrf [FJ] Addict Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Where my home is Posts: 17,324	Super Snail - Bela Round 2 (pics galore) Ok well as everyone knows my car is the devil. I've had the toughest time getting things working with my car with bad parts here and there, but this is the start of round two!! I have my parts from Super Snail back, and all I can say is if there is better welding out there, I'm sure I couldn't imagine it. I am so impressed with the quality of these parts I can't put it into words. The manifold is STOUT. Just holding it you can feel the solidity. The welds are beautiful, the coating is very nice (for now of course, they always go ugly once they burn). The design is excellent!! This manifold was done in 304 Stainless using .109 wall material! That gives alot of meat to weld into. Obiouvsly with thicker steel, heat retention (causing more expansion) could be an issue over timem, but we'll see what the trade off is. I'll have more pics once the parts are on the car. Unfortunately it'll be a while, I'm out of town this weekend. But I can't wait to hear the car start again and actually boost again. Here are the pics: This is a pic of everything. The new turbo is a GT28RS again w/ T3 exhaust housing using a .69 A/R on the exhaust side. This should spool slightly quicker than the previous one at .83 A/R. Here are various views of the manifold: Here is the downpipe. I can't tell you how much I love the flex WG dump pipe!! Maybe it's just me, but I think it's uber cool!! So obviously you can see the parts are excellent. I wont be able to share the whole story of this deal as it's long and boring, but I can tell anyone looking to use these guys... they are quality people. Not just their workmanship but they as people are awesome. Dealing with companies is always hit and miss when you dont know the integrity of the people you are dealing with. The guys at SuperSnail really stand out as a company you can definately trust! Last edited by belacyrf : 10-23-2008 at 07:29 PM.

05-09-2006, 04:10 PM	#2
acnon TEAM Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Digitally Inebriated... Posts: 486	Re: Super Snail - Bela Round 2 (pics galore) The flex-dump pipe is indeed uber-cool!!! AWESOME MAN!!!:thumbup : __________________ #1: 2002 SVT Sonic Blue / All options / #479 of 4788 Born: 03/26/02 - CHOKING ON CATALYST... Powerworks S/C at ??Psi Koni yellows all around. #2: 2001 ZX3 Auto - SVT suspension. Otherwise-STOCK!! LOL

05-09-2006, 04:16 PM	#3
Winkty TEAM Sponsor Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 1,209	Re: Super Snail - Bela Round 2 (pics galore) Glad you like the stuff, Bela. We try our hardest to put quality in everything we do. I really don't think you'll have a problem with cracking...but we all know with welding and heat....it's a hit or miss. Only thing i worry about is the heat wrap. No matter what, you know we have you covered.

05-09-2006, 04:23 PM	#4
CHIBULLSAN Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: (Aaron) Pittsburgh, Pa Posts: 1,677	Re: Super Snail - Bela Round 2 (pics galore) Looks great! I cant wait to see pics onthe car!!! Im glad your happy! PS.... Dont heat wrap it! it looks and works with out it

05-09-2006, 04:33 PM	#5
REDFOCZ Senior TEAM Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 1,093	Re: Super Snail - Bela Round 2 (pics galore) Thats a damn nice manifold right there, cant wait to see it on the car. __________________ 2007 Saturn Ion QC3 2.4 LE5 Ecotec 186 HP/ 177.6TQ 15.196 @ MPH: 92.00

05-09-2006, 04:43 PM	#6
belacyrf [FJ] Addict Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Where my home is Posts: 17,324	Re: Super Snail - Bela Round 2 (pics galore) I'm not going to wrap it right off... I'm going to test it out as is. If under hood temps are to high, I will either wrap it or buy a vented hood. Hmmmm $30.00 or $500.00... tough decision __________________ 1995 Turbocharged Miata for sale Former owner of Turbo SVTF

05-09-2006, 04:46 PM	#7
slidemaster Professor PowerSlide Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: steering backward through the mirror Posts: 7,910	Re: Super Snail - Bela Round 2 (pics galore) Man its good to see you get started again! Good luck __________________ Watch for "Road Trip" coming soon- check with your cable provider

05-09-2006, 04:51 PM	#8
Spatakula cUsToM tItLe - You're Welcome. - Drew Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 8,036	Re: Super Snail - Bela Round 2 (pics galore) i am jealous!!! can wait to see the finshed product. hopefully youll have better luck with this setup. -spatakula __________________ 2002 SVTF #602

05-09-2006, 04:59 PM	#9
FocusSportVP Premiere Sponsor Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: The Lair of The West Coast Cult Posts: 20,835	Re: Super Snail - Bela Round 2 (pics galore) Looking good as usual Clint. Alright David, we gonna rock this on the dyno or what? __________________ Best Regards, Randy Robles Vice President FocusSport / FSWerks www.focussport.com / www.fswerks.com 714.630.6353 A work in progress - The 384 WHP / 341 WTQ FocusSport Turbo ZX3 - Click me! The FocusSport Street Tuner Challenge Focus 396 WHP / 347 WTQ - Click me!

05-09-2006, 05:06 PM	#11
02_smurf Moderator Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: With the wemenz: Em or mom Posts: 12,525	Re: Super Snail - Bela Round 2 (pics galore) SWEET! Someone give the spiders their eviction notice!! __________________ "I couldn't even get on it, I stabbed myself in the vagina!" -Name withheld to protect the drunkeded

05-09-2006, 05:12 PM	#12
BUR_ZX3 [FJ] Addict Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Little Saint Clara, Isle of Queen Califia Posts: 35,744	Re: Super Snail - Bela Round 2 (pics galore) I can't wait to see her rise again! This time... there will be no stopping you David!!!!! Clint, Aaron. EXCELLENT work boys! You guys are sooooooooooo who I'm talking to when I turbo this beotch! __________________ Video from the final round of the Focus Challenge... Click Here

05-09-2006, 05:21 PM	#13
hkysk8r07 [FJ] Fail Brigade Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Santa Barbara, CA/ Stamford, CT) Posts: 6,525	Re: Super Snail - Bela Round 2 (pics galore) noice. is that a EGT hook-up put into the manifold?? __________________ CT ride-2000 Infra-Red MkI ZX3 CA ride-2007 Reflex Silver MkV GTI

05-09-2006, 05:23 PM	#14
w00w00 Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: gainesville, fl Posts: 2,271	Re: Super Snail - Bela Round 2 (pics galore) good job ssf. my only thing is that youll be cramped for space getting the wg on and off, not exactly alot of room to turn a wrench. __________________ revitalize? the vital tribe *****, what!

05-09-2006, 05:27 PM	#16
CatMostFeared Senior TEAM Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Buckner,Ky Posts: 2,272	Re: Super Snail - Bela Round 2 (pics galore) thats cool cant wait to see more. What turbo are you running __________________ 2000 Turbo WRC ZX3 2002 PowerWorks SVT MassiveSpeedSystem www.focusxtreme.com

05-09-2006, 05:44 PM	#18
orangeZXT Moderator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: for sale forum Posts: 8,194	Re: Super Snail - Bela Round 2 (pics galore) good job winkly u guys do some great stuff __________________ [FJ] check out my new project hit ALT + F4 to view the pics -There is a fine line between "HOBBY" and MENTAL ILLNESS"- [FJ] "more psi than your tires"[FJ]

05-09-2006, 06:04 PM	#19
Winkty TEAM Sponsor Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 1,209	Re: Super Snail - Bela Round 2 (pics galore) Bela, I'll let you in on a little secret. The turbo IS in a different location, but ONLY the exhaust housing. 1st - We bolted up all your old stuff and made a bracket that went from two of the compressor housing bolts...to the block. 2nd - We removed the old manifold and downpipe and left the turbo hanging ONLY off the bracket we made. 3rd - We rotated the exhaust housing to be nice and flat. It's easier to work with and nicer to look at. THATS why we bolted it to the compressor housing. Your compressor housing should be right in the same spot...and it didn't matter how we moved the exhaust housing. Cool?

05-09-2006, 06:05 PM	#20
belacyrf [FJ] Addict Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Where my home is Posts: 17,324	Re: Super Snail - Bela Round 2 (pics galore) Oh that will be very cool!!! Well I'm going to make a valiant effort to do as much during the week this week as I can to get stuff mounted. My poor car is so covered with dust it's sad. __________________ 1995 Turbocharged Miata for sale Former owner of Turbo SVTF

05-09-2006, 06:25 PM	#21
OrangeSVT03 Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Waverly , Ohio Posts: 4,326	Re: Super Snail - Bela Round 2 (pics galore) I dont see an INTAKE MANIFOLD in the pics anywhere........ J/K As usual everything looks UBER nice and I can vouch that SSF's quality is seconds to none... looks like I'll be calling them soon... again __________________ 2003 SVT Focus Comp Orange Euro Package #3474 of 3985 Date of Birth July 31, 03 Turbo,Quaife and a bunch of other crap 362whp/316wtq 22PSI on 93 octane......courtesy of Focus-Power and SuperSnailFab

05-09-2006, 06:27 PM	#23
belacyrf [FJ] Addict Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Where my home is Posts: 17,324	Re: Super Snail - Bela Round 2 (pics galore) Hey I asked... they turned me down. Apparently word is getting out that these guys are pretty good, and there just isn't enough time in the day __________________ 1995 Turbocharged Miata for sale Former owner of Turbo SVTF

05-09-2006, 06:38 PM	#25
Evan_Murphy TEAM Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Manasquan NJ Posts: 803	Re: Super Snail - Bela Round 2 (pics galore) that downpipe looks awfully fimiliar hehehhe, everything looks awesome. I and really second Super Snails personal buisness, just very nice to deal with and very helpful. Belacyrf im jealous, your turbo is gonna spool so much faster than mine, well at least mine is shiny