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**geostef** · 05-14-2008, 11:17 AM

sorry to sound little suspicious but that aint right ... 45 hp from a decat is definitely wrong!

**blueovaldave** · 05-14-2008, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by LornesBored

. Mine made crap power, dave owns it now and I think makes around 230 to the wheels I think? what it should be around.

245 to the wheels on a detuned setup.

Was up to 255 on the dyno and there was more but Ray did not want to scatter parts all over the floor.

**Dracconix** · 05-14-2008, 12:57 PM

I believe that CosDevSVT was making over 300 with his, before it got scattered all over mid-ohio...

**LornesBored** · 05-14-2008, 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geostef

sorry to sound little suspicious but that aint right ... 45 hp from a decat is definitely wrong!

it does sound a little suspicous, because it's 35

but still, even 35 sounds suspicious. is it a 1inch cat?

**99dot** · 05-14-2008, 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geostef

sorry to sound little suspicious but that aint right ... 45 hp from a decat is definitely wrong!

No, its right the tune is half mine and a tunner to be named later; some even call him the devil

.

What he forgot to tell you was, that he's not using the intake tube that came with the kit.

Its a custom one off using a mustang gt maf it the stock housing

60lbs injectors,9.6 to 1, 5.7 crank pulley and I little extra something done to the cylinder head.

**acnon** · 05-15-2008, 03:18 AM

That would be a correct statement 99dot....

To clarify, the car was tuned WITHOUT the CAT. I lost around 35 hp the second we put it on. And the car runs like junk with it.... Hence, my sig.

I'm still working out some issues on the car. To be sure, getting to this point has not been fun, especially with the SVT's stupid ECU..

**acnon** · 05-15-2008, 03:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dracconix

I believe that CosDevSVT was making over 300 with his, before it got scattered all over mid-ohio...

I do believe 300 is possible, but as has been said before it's gonna take some doin'

Honestly, a lot of us should just have stopped at 245~255...
We might have had more reliable cars!

Ones that didn't end up in pieces...

**99dot** · 05-15-2008, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by acnon

Honestly, a lot of us should just have stopped at 245~255...
We might have had more reliable cars!

True enough, PWSC was never ment to be a high power kit, its a great out of the box turn key kit, which provides hours of enjoyment in the stock form.

Weeks,months and years of fustration other wise.

**Focuskid00** · 05-15-2008, 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 99dot

True enough, PWSC was never ment to be a high power kit, its a great out of the box turn key kit, which provides hours of enjoyment in the stock form.

Weeks,months and years of fustration other wise.

Ah truth!! If only I would have had some restraint and just been happy with the monster that was. Well thats what im in this for is *Cough* Joy *Cough* of working on my cars.
I can say though Ive been lucky no serious problems yet, just the replacement of the starter on the PW car. argh

**aiden1983** · 05-15-2008, 09:23 PM

Well just waiting for the engine to get back from the shop and the car will be put back together. But my old man is gunna do it for me since I have to move to another city for my job. Anyone on here from Fort Mac

(shot in the dark)?

**COSDEVSVT** · 05-15-2008, 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dracconix

I believe that CosDevSVT was making over 300 with his, before it got scattered all over mid-ohio...

No damping, sustained high RPM, and undersized ARP rod bolts FTL!

What is left of that lump is still in the corner of my garage rusting away. I still need to salvage the re-worked head and proto cams off that thing.

**aiden1983** · 05-16-2008, 12:10 AM

^^^ was your engine forged internals or stock svt?

**COSDEVSVT** · 05-16-2008, 06:57 AM

SVT crank, Eagle rods, and Probe pistons (~9.2:1 CR w/SVT head).

I ran the undampened 5.7" crank pulley - IMO that had a big factor in the rod bolt failure ... classic overloaded (not over/under torqued) tensile failure.

Engine ran fine for my daily commute a week prior to the event, ~6 passes down the dragstrip, the drive to Mid-Ohio, and three 20-min NASA TT heats. Could feel the engine starting let go in the 4th TT heat near the end of the big straight (sustained high RPM) but managed to hold together around the track until turn #1 (just past the pits of course).

**aiden1983** · 05-16-2008, 07:41 AM

I am surprised with the rob bolt failure, I didn't know any of these rods failed. Anything to prevent this in the future?

**Terrible1** · 05-16-2008, 09:28 AM

This is why I decided to just build the bottom end, replace the top end with a ported head and specific cams and just be done with it. I'm not interested in more boost, more compression maybe

**aiden1983** · 05-16-2008, 05:47 PM

ya 10.2:1 with the smaller pulley, hope I can get some good numbers but more important keep it together

**ZX3TUNING** · 05-16-2008, 10:25 PM

keeping it together will come down to the person tuning the car and the fuel you are running!

**LornesBored** · 05-16-2008, 10:29 PM

just please, dont blow it up again

**aiden1983** · 05-17-2008, 12:34 AM

LOL I will try not but really who knows at this point. I might get water/meth to hold it together. I hope my tuner is good enough to do it

**qqqq** · 05-18-2008, 06:40 AM

Didn't early Eagle Zetec rods have 5/16" rod bolts?The new ones have 3/8".

**aiden1983** · 05-18-2008, 10:44 AM

the new ones def have a 3/8, don't know about the rest

**geostef** · 05-21-2008, 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 99dot

No, its right the tune is half mine and a tunner to be named later; some even call him the devil

.

What he forgot to tell you was, that he's not using the intake tube that came with the kit.

Its a custom one off using a mustang gt maf it the stock housing

60lbs injectors,9.6 to 1, 5.7 crank pulley and I little extra something done to the cylinder head.

well that settles things ...

**Focuskid00** · 05-22-2008, 03:34 AM

I have been running 101oct for the last 10 months and I have had zero problems ( minus the starter) car runs great and pulls like a crazy dog on a leash! I had my car tuned by massive/ logan motor sports and with the tune have always been in the safe zone.
So im sure with some good tuning and the right add on's you can make 300whp no problem.

Two cents (ca ching)

05-14-2008, 11:17 AM	#26
geostef TEAM Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Athens Posts: 476	Re: What's the highest HP for a PWSC so far sorry to sound little suspicious but that aint right ... 45 hp from a decat is definitely wrong! __________________ PowerWorks 2044cc Zetec -CR 9.7:1, Diamond pistons with Eagle rods ,lightened - weightbalanced crankshaft, 2.4'' pulley, 5.36''crank pulley, FR head with 1mm Supertech inconel valves,ported and polished supercharger manifold, Mcnews custom SC cams, SVT manifold decat with 2.75'' custom pipes with custom middle box,MTX trans 4.06 final with HyperSingle Exedy and Torsen T2 *-- from JJ POWER* --**

05-14-2008, 12:57 PM	#28
Dracconix Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Central Indiana Posts: 1,335	Re: What's the highest HP for a PWSC so far I believe that CosDevSVT was making over 300 with his, before it got scattered all over mid-ohio... __________________ FocusSport & Cosworth.... Proving Power > Traction.... 14.01 @ 106.66

05-15-2008, 03:18 AM	#31
acnon TEAM Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Digitally Inebriated... Posts: 486	Re: What's the highest HP for a PWSC so far That would be a correct statement 99dot.... To clarify, the car was tuned WITHOUT the CAT. I lost around 35 hp the second we put it on. And the car runs like junk with it.... Hence, my sig. I'm still working out some issues on the car. To be sure, getting to this point has not been fun, especially with the SVT's stupid ECU.. __________________ #1: 2002 SVT Sonic Blue / All options / #479 of 4788 Born: 03/26/02 - CHOKING ON CATALYST... Powerworks S/C at ??Psi Koni yellows all around. #2: 2001 ZX3 Auto - SVT suspension. Otherwise-STOCK!! LOL

05-15-2008, 09:23 PM	#35
aiden1983 Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Calgary, AB Posts: 1,006	Re: What's the highest HP for a PWSC so far Well just waiting for the engine to get back from the shop and the car will be put back together. But my old man is gunna do it for me since I have to move to another city for my job. Anyone on here from Fort Mac (shot in the dark)? __________________ Style: Vis Racing CF Evo Hood, Roush Bodykit, Roush Shifter, Roush Dash Kit, 5% Tint All Around, CF Cargo Cover, Projector Headlights, Billet Grill, 12" Clarion Sub, 1500 RMS Clarion Mono Amp, Sirius Radio, 19" Rims, Lamin-X Tails, Custom Emblems and probably some other junk I can't remember right now :). Power: PWSC, FR Head, AEM Cam Gears, Torsen LSD, FC 4-1 Header, FS Catback, CFM Hi flow Cat, SVT Short Block, Massive Speed System Pulley Kit, SVT Brakes, SVT Suspension, 10.2:1 Pistons, Eagle H Beam Connecting Rods and a bunch of bills to go with it. NEW RIDE: 08 EVO X MR RR

05-16-2008, 12:10 AM	#37
aiden1983 Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Calgary, AB Posts: 1,006	Re: What's the highest HP for a PWSC so far ^^^ was your engine forged internals or stock svt? __________________ Style: Vis Racing CF Evo Hood, Roush Bodykit, Roush Shifter, Roush Dash Kit, 5% Tint All Around, CF Cargo Cover, Projector Headlights, Billet Grill, 12" Clarion Sub, 1500 RMS Clarion Mono Amp, Sirius Radio, 19" Rims, Lamin-X Tails, Custom Emblems and probably some other junk I can't remember right now :). Power: PWSC, FR Head, AEM Cam Gears, Torsen LSD, FC 4-1 Header, FS Catback, CFM Hi flow Cat, SVT Short Block, Massive Speed System Pulley Kit, SVT Brakes, SVT Suspension, 10.2:1 Pistons, Eagle H Beam Connecting Rods and a bunch of bills to go with it. NEW RIDE: 08 EVO X MR RR

05-16-2008, 06:57 AM	#38
COSDEVSVT TEAM Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 997	Re: What's the highest HP for a PWSC so far SVT crank, Eagle rods, and Probe pistons (~9.2:1 CR w/SVT head). I ran the undampened 5.7" crank pulley - IMO that had a big factor in the rod bolt failure ... classic overloaded (not over/under torqued) tensile failure. Engine ran fine for my daily commute a week prior to the event, ~6 passes down the dragstrip, the drive to Mid-Ohio, and three 20-min NASA TT heats. Could feel the engine starting let go in the 4th TT heat near the end of the big straight (sustained high RPM) but managed to hold together around the track until turn #1 (just past the pits of course). __________________ '04 PW (#1) Competition Orange SVT 5-door Euro

05-16-2008, 07:41 AM	#39
aiden1983 Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Calgary, AB Posts: 1,006	Re: What's the highest HP for a PWSC so far I am surprised with the rob bolt failure, I didn't know any of these rods failed. Anything to prevent this in the future? __________________ Style: Vis Racing CF Evo Hood, Roush Bodykit, Roush Shifter, Roush Dash Kit, 5% Tint All Around, CF Cargo Cover, Projector Headlights, Billet Grill, 12" Clarion Sub, 1500 RMS Clarion Mono Amp, Sirius Radio, 19" Rims, Lamin-X Tails, Custom Emblems and probably some other junk I can't remember right now :). Power: PWSC, FR Head, AEM Cam Gears, Torsen LSD, FC 4-1 Header, FS Catback, CFM Hi flow Cat, SVT Short Block, Massive Speed System Pulley Kit, SVT Brakes, SVT Suspension, 10.2:1 Pistons, Eagle H Beam Connecting Rods and a bunch of bills to go with it. NEW RIDE: 08 EVO X MR RR

05-16-2008, 09:28 AM	#40
Terrible1 Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Idaho Falls, Idaho Posts: 2,081	Re: What's the highest HP for a PWSC so far This is why I decided to just build the bottom end, replace the top end with a ported head and specific cams and just be done with it. I'm not interested in more boost, more compression maybe __________________ ENGINE- Powerworks, Kamikaze, 2.5" SS exhaust, Mocal oil cooler, Torsen, 4.06 FD, CN race clutch, Fidanza SUSPENSION/WHEELS- Custom H&R Coilovers, FS camber plates, CFM control arms, Prothane, Eibach sway bars, Rota Slips w/Toyo R888, SVT brakes w/Hawk race pads, ARP studs, Custom wheel spacers EXTERIOR- Deft' CF hood, Sparco hood pins, CF F1 mirrors, CF sunroof delete, Custom front airdam/splitter, APR wing INTERIOR- Custom spec cage, RS shift knob, FC SS, Corbeau Fx1, Momo Mod78, NRG quick release, Defi gauges, Crow 5point SPONSORS- Troys Engine Mfg., Casper Customs, Striknine Motorsports, Bleeding Cowboy Tattoo

05-16-2008, 05:47 PM	#41
aiden1983 Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Calgary, AB Posts: 1,006	Re: What's the highest HP for a PWSC so far ya 10.2:1 with the smaller pulley, hope I can get some good numbers but more important keep it together __________________ Style: Vis Racing CF Evo Hood, Roush Bodykit, Roush Shifter, Roush Dash Kit, 5% Tint All Around, CF Cargo Cover, Projector Headlights, Billet Grill, 12" Clarion Sub, 1500 RMS Clarion Mono Amp, Sirius Radio, 19" Rims, Lamin-X Tails, Custom Emblems and probably some other junk I can't remember right now :). Power: PWSC, FR Head, AEM Cam Gears, Torsen LSD, FC 4-1 Header, FS Catback, CFM Hi flow Cat, SVT Short Block, Massive Speed System Pulley Kit, SVT Brakes, SVT Suspension, 10.2:1 Pistons, Eagle H Beam Connecting Rods and a bunch of bills to go with it. NEW RIDE: 08 EVO X MR RR

05-16-2008, 10:25 PM	#42
ZX3TUNING Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Vancouver, BC. Canada Posts: 1,693	Re: What's the highest HP for a PWSC so far keeping it together will come down to the person tuning the car and the fuel you are running! __________________ Power in Style.... *ZX3Tuning* Part of Conglomerate Motorwerks! Mitch A.

05-16-2008, 10:29 PM	#43
LornesBored [FJ] Special Ed. Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Victoria, BC, Canada Posts: 9,011	Re: What's the highest HP for a PWSC so far just please, dont blow it up again __________________ Post whore turned super lurker...

05-17-2008, 12:34 AM	#44
aiden1983 Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Calgary, AB Posts: 1,006	Re: What's the highest HP for a PWSC so far LOL I will try not but really who knows at this point. I might get water/meth to hold it together. I hope my tuner is good enough to do it __________________ Style: Vis Racing CF Evo Hood, Roush Bodykit, Roush Shifter, Roush Dash Kit, 5% Tint All Around, CF Cargo Cover, Projector Headlights, Billet Grill, 12" Clarion Sub, 1500 RMS Clarion Mono Amp, Sirius Radio, 19" Rims, Lamin-X Tails, Custom Emblems and probably some other junk I can't remember right now :). Power: PWSC, FR Head, AEM Cam Gears, Torsen LSD, FC 4-1 Header, FS Catback, CFM Hi flow Cat, SVT Short Block, Massive Speed System Pulley Kit, SVT Brakes, SVT Suspension, 10.2:1 Pistons, Eagle H Beam Connecting Rods and a bunch of bills to go with it. NEW RIDE: 08 EVO X MR RR

05-18-2008, 06:40 AM	#45
qqqq TEAM Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 351	Re: What's the highest HP for a PWSC so far Didn't early Eagle Zetec rods have 5/16" rod bolts?The new ones have 3/8". __________________ It's mine,and I can do whatever I want with it...

05-18-2008, 10:44 AM	#46
aiden1983 Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Calgary, AB Posts: 1,006	Re: What's the highest HP for a PWSC so far the new ones def have a 3/8, don't know about the rest __________________ Style: Vis Racing CF Evo Hood, Roush Bodykit, Roush Shifter, Roush Dash Kit, 5% Tint All Around, CF Cargo Cover, Projector Headlights, Billet Grill, 12" Clarion Sub, 1500 RMS Clarion Mono Amp, Sirius Radio, 19" Rims, Lamin-X Tails, Custom Emblems and probably some other junk I can't remember right now :). Power: PWSC, FR Head, AEM Cam Gears, Torsen LSD, FC 4-1 Header, FS Catback, CFM Hi flow Cat, SVT Short Block, Massive Speed System Pulley Kit, SVT Brakes, SVT Suspension, 10.2:1 Pistons, Eagle H Beam Connecting Rods and a bunch of bills to go with it. NEW RIDE: 08 EVO X MR RR

05-22-2008, 03:34 AM	#48
Focuskid00 TEAM Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 644	Re: What's the highest HP for a PWSC so far I have been running 101oct for the last 10 months and I have had zero problems ( minus the starter) car runs great and pulls like a crazy dog on a leash! I had my car tuned by massive/ logan motor sports and with the tune have always been in the safe zone. So im sure with some good tuning and the right add on's you can make 300whp no problem. Two cents (ca ching) __________________ 2000 Powerworkd Black ZTS..Forged internals, FRPP head with the Massive 2.4 BBK.. 285hp 245tq!! 2005 Focus ST W/ FS StgII Turbo JCM #608

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