so i ran the 100 shot a couple of times..

[barrman]

Originally Posted by Hocky

And even if you do, the burst panel is on the bottle for a reason. I have seen many "my car burnt down from a nitrous bottle" stories, but the reality of it is that it is pretty damn unlikely that you could ever get nitrous to catch on fire. Maybe a burst panel could fail and if you just happened to not have the bottle mounted to anything, the bottle could shoot through the car. Much beyond that is unlikely. I'd bet 90% of "nitrous related" fires are from people who wire stuff up like monkeys.

i don't think he was trying to say that leaving your bottle heater connected to a constant 12v source can create a fire... it can however cause an explosion.

bov's can definitely fail... it's rare but it absolutely happens.

if you leave your bottle warmer on and your bov fails, and assuming your bottle is well attached to the vehicle, the bottle will explode when the pressure builds to high from the heat, and it will literally DESTROY the car it's in.

here is an example of what can happen if your nitrous bottle explodes in your car:

[Hocky]

That picture has circulated the internet for centuries. Like I said, I'd love to see proof of an over pressure burst creating a fire because nitrous under pressure is pretty difficult to ignite. Have a nitrous bottle? Go start the biggest fire you can and spray the nitrous bottle onto it and let us know what happens. However, I have no doubt that if a burst panel failed, the bottle could blow a hole in the car like I said above. Even still, the chances of that happening are slim to none. I've seen burst panels blow at pretty low pressure.

[barrman]

Originally Posted by Hocky

That picture has circulated the internet for centuries. Like I said, I'd love to see proof of an over pressure burst creating a fire because nitrous under pressure is pretty difficult to ignite. Have a nitrous bottle? Go start the biggest fire you can and spray the nitrous bottle onto it and let us know what happens. However, I have no doubt that if a burst panel failed, the bottle could blow a hole in the car like I said above. Even still, the chances of that happening are slim to none. I've seen burst panels blow at pretty low pressure.

lol... it's like youre arguing against an invisible arguement, as if someone in this thread keeps telling you that nitrous is flammable. you just keep focusing on nitrous igniting. unless i missed something, nobody in this entire thread was making the claim that nitrous was flammable, and nobody claimed that an overpressure burst can create a fire. i know that nitrous is indeed a non-flammable liquid. you can literally blow out a flame with a stream of nitrous.

however, you CAN absolutely have an explosion with NO FIRE INVOLVED, and THAT is where the danger of having a bottle heater left on lies. if you have a bottle heater left on, the bottle pressure can rise to beyond safe levels, and the bottle can literally explode from excess pressure if the safety valve fails.

[Red01SE]

all i can picture is vin diesel yelling nos and the eclipse blowing up lol man those movies are funny.....sorry for going off topic

[barrman]

Originally Posted by Red01SE

all i can picture is vin diesel yelling nos and the eclipse blowing up lol man those movies are funny.....sorry for going off topic

lol... yeah, very funny, and probably part of the reason that so many people think nitrous is flammable. i love how the scene had crazy blue and green flames everywhere from the 'nitrous'.

[AcIdBuRn02ZTS]

in all honesty, i would think the lines would fail before the bottle would explode.. but who knows

-AcId-

[Hocky]

Originally Posted by barrman

lol... it's like youre arguing against an invisible arguement, as if someone in this thread keeps telling you that nitrous is flammable. you just keep focusing on nitrous igniting. unless i missed something, nobody in this entire thread was making the claim that nitrous was flammable, and nobody claimed that an overpressure burst can create a fire. i know that nitrous is indeed a non-flammable liquid. you can literally blow out a flame with a stream of nitrous.

however, you CAN absolutely have an explosion with NO FIRE INVOLVED, and THAT is where the danger of having a bottle heater left on lies. if you have a bottle heater left on, the bottle pressure can rise to beyond safe levels, and the bottle can literally explode from excess pressure if the safety valve fails.

It seems to me that there was fire involved in the picture you posted by melted plastics. More to the story than you're hearing other than 'omg nitrous is scary!!!'?

[Hocky]

Originally Posted by AcIdBuRn02ZTS

in all honesty, i would think the lines would fail before the bottle would explode.. but who knows

-AcId-

There wouldn't necessarily be anything in the lines.

[barrman]

Originally Posted by AcIdBuRn02ZTS

in all honesty, i would think the lines would fail before the bottle would explode.. but who knows

-AcId-

this is correct... bottle explosions generally occur with a bottle heater left on and the bottle closed.

bottle heaters usually have pressure sensors that control when they turn on and off, but they generally require the bottle to be open to read the bottle pressure, which is why thte heaters won't shut off when the bottle is closed, leading to a burst disc or worse.

[barrman]

Originally Posted by Hocky

It seems to me that there was fire involved in the picture you posted by melted plastics. More to the story than you're hearing other than 'omg nitrous is scary!!!'?

i must be missing something... i'm not seeing fire damage in those pictures

[CleanZX3]

New nitrous systems have safety caps/valves that will blow off before the bottle does.

The guy in that maxima welded his closed so he could fit more n20 into a bottle. He also forgot to turn off the bottle heater.

[Stolle]

so back to the guy about his 100shot in his focus....

[d.bluefocus21]

a bottle isn't going to go into a million pieces, it'll most likely come out the nozzle if it were to "explode from leavin a bottle warmer all night" and either get lodged in its location and just spray nos everywhere or just simply have enough oomph to do some interior damage from it bouncing back and forth..

but I seriously doubt that a over pressurized bottle will do what that picture looks like from above^^

[drifting jdm]

lol ok guys i'm not getting a bottle heater anymore lol..and I think I already found the problem to why my car didn't always perform as good..it looks like my nitrous solenoid its mest up, the shield over it came off and it looks damaged...I haven't ran the car for about almost 2 weeks now. I did without nitrous against a tc with i/h/e and beat him lol...but I'm getting the solenoid soon and hopefully it will fix my problems.

[buzzbomb]

A pressure gauge and bottle heater are very necessary for consistent nitrous usage. If you've got a proper blowdown setup, how is that sort of explosive damage going to happen? Those pictures are obviously the result of someone not using proper safety protocol - as mentioned, welding the cap shut and leaving the bottle heater on and hooked up to a constant 12v source. Sure, that sort of explosion could happen, but that guy brought it on himself by doing those things.

[drifting jdm]

I know I understand I'm not getting it because I don't run with nitrous consistantly...at the most at do 2 runs and then let the car get a rest...I don't run at the tracks I run at this car meets they have around where I live...usually like from 20mph to like 115mph at the most..but most of the time I don't even hit 4th only if its a close race

[drifting jdm]

heres a video i made a while ago

you can't post that here on Focaljet.

[buzzbomb]

I had a sneaking suspicion you were talking about street racing. I'm pretty sure this might be the end of this thread - street racing is frowned upon on this forum. Sorry.

Also,

I don't run with nitrous consistantly...at the most at do 2 runs and then let the car get a rest

"Consistent" and "constant" are different words. In this case, "consistent" means that with the proper equipment and tune, you'll get reliable and repeatable results every time you hit the nitrous.

[FocusSportVP]

Per the FJ rules that were agreed to when you registered, street racing discussions and videos are not allowed. This thread is done, sorry.