325whp 320 wtq STOCK ZETEC - UPDATED #'s 457whp/450wtq! > New thread linked.. - Page 2 - The Ford Focus Forum

**hEaT** · 09-09-2009, 12:14 AM

Very impressive. Nice tuning work there!

**topspeedfab** · 09-09-2009, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by FocusSportVP

Nice!

I hear what you're saying about not wantinig to damage the turbo, but I wish someone would run a stock engine for a while with some serious power to see how it holds up.

These are my thoughts exactly.

**CaysE** · 09-09-2009, 10:00 AM

Good grief... that is awesome.

**Spatakula** · 09-09-2009, 10:10 AM

I'd love to see what an SVT would do. Call me.

Anyways, flippin' sweet #'s! You guys rock!

-spatakula

**DigitalGT** · 09-09-2009, 10:52 AM

WOW! I'm amazed the bottom end is handling that kind of power production. Any blueprinting or balancing done to the lower end before these numbers or did you just turn up the wick and let it rip?

Either way, impressive stuff. I hope it stays together for you

**Ja-Red** · 09-09-2009, 11:53 AM

100% the way it rolled out from ford in 2003. 71K on the clock. Original everything, except for a FC 65mm TB, not even the valve cover has been taken off.

Some low boost pulls this morning and a compression test confirm that everything is still A-OK!

**illinipo** · 09-09-2009, 12:25 PM

so wait... remind me again why it is we say the rods are only good to 220-240whp???

Thanks for doing the legwork guys

PS, electronic knock control is overrated. Just listen to the sensor and turn that crap off.

**mattellermets** · 09-09-2009, 12:38 PM

VERY nice. I'm jealous Ja-Red.

**polarisman14** · 09-09-2009, 03:39 PM

Looks to me like you got the pick of the litter on this one Jared. Congrats on the numbers, can't wait to see what it'll make on a built engine and whatnot.

**QJKXBM** · 09-09-2009, 05:22 PM

wtf that's crazy! nice job, hope it lasts!!

**Ja-Red** · 09-09-2009, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by polarisman14

Looks to me like you got the pick of the litter on this one Jared. Congrats on the numbers, can't wait to see what it'll make on a built engine and whatnot.

Yeah, Bryan and I determined it was built on a Wednesday!

The biggest reason I did not want to try for more was the fuel psi situation. Im gonna try one more thing before I pony up for a return style.

**turbozeteczx3** · 09-09-2009, 06:48 PM

Why dont you just sump a duratec tank. you dont have to run another fuel cell in the back you can keep your stock sending unit so the fuel gauge works. if you want more info pm i did this to a guy from orlando or west palm cant remember it was about 8 months ago

**KingCrabb** · 09-09-2009, 07:03 PM

with the 3076 what is the boost like. on say 14psi where do u hit full boost. and how much boost do u have at around 3k 2nd gear.

**pzev04boy** · 09-09-2009, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by illinipo

so wait... remind me again why it is we say the rods are only good to 220-240whp???

He only spun the motor to about 6K if he pushed it to 7k I bet the rods would have let go. Seeing as power just starts to fall off arround 6k there is no reason to spin it higher.

RPM is a big factor.

The motor might be able to live for a while at this power level with a 6k rev limit.

**bmylez** · 09-09-2009, 10:17 PM

Damn, didn't think 325 was capable on the Zetec. I know it's apples to oranges, but a guy pulled 701whp on a stock bottom end S2000...with stock trans. and diff. Seems like when you put on a big turbo with conservative timing, motors tend to hold up under boost fairly well.

**Ja-Red** · 09-09-2009, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by pzev04boy

He only spun the motor to about 6K if he pushed it to 7k I bet the rods would have let go. Seeing as power just starts to fall off arround 6k there is no reason to spin it higher.

RPM is a big factor.

The motor might be able to live for a while at this power level with a 6k rev limit.

Those were my thoughts exactly that is why the rev limit has been set at 6500 ever since the turbo has been on the car.

**zach92r** · 09-09-2009, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Ja-Red

Those were my thoughts exactly that is why the rev limit has been set at 6500 ever since the turbo has been on the car.

Your my hero

atleast now i know how much a stock zetec can take, you have me drooling wanting to do mine up more now

**Paladin** · 09-10-2009, 01:08 AM

well done guys. it good to see people figure this out so i know what it really takes..

**stage3** · 09-10-2009, 01:50 AM

Nice job, finally someone who can tune the car well and have it make great numbers. I guess you guys were lucky, my stock Zetec broke the #3 rod at 300whp after beating the hell out of it for 500 miles. The stock SVT motor I had made 380whp and has been going strong for over 2k miles. I was afraid to push it anywhere over 400 though, but I know the SVT motor can definetly take it. Once again, really nice numbers.

**starfuryt550** · 09-10-2009, 02:07 AM

Impressive...

How is the tranny holding up on the stock clutch? I'd think that would go fairly quickly too

**focalized31** · 09-10-2009, 03:52 AM

Video.... lol FrEakin SICKKK #s, TS just keeps calling my name LOL

**FocusSportVP** · 09-10-2009, 04:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by starfuryt550

Impressive...

How is the tranny holding up on the stock clutch? I'd think that would go fairly quickly too

Stock clutch? I really doubt that.

**Ja-Red** · 09-10-2009, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by starfuryt550

Impressive...

How is the tranny holding up on the stock clutch? I'd think that would go fairly quickly too

No it is a competition clutch stage 4

**polarisman14** · 09-10-2009, 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ja-Red

Yeah, Bryan and I determined it was built on a Wednesday!

The biggest reason I did not want to try for more was the fuel psi situation. Im gonna try one more thing before I pony up for a return style.

The only issue with running lower than 3 bar of fuel pressure is that the hp potential of the injectors falls off. As long as you have sufficient injector (check out the RC fuel injector calculator) you don't necessarily need an extra psi of fuel pressure per pound of boost as most people suggest. I'll be running 350+whp on 83lb injectors at about 40psi of fuel pressure shortly, and won't even think twice about it.

The reason why you'd want to rev it above 6500 is that you want to drop into the next gear as it enters the highest level of powerband. The way my setup is, I go into each gear at the same load (the datalogging feature that most accurately captures torque) as I go out of the gear. Mine breathes easier (FR head, IM, mcnews FI cams) so the redline is 7400, but 6800-7000 should still breathe well. When I'm trying to go as fast as I can I'll be shifting at about 7200. Take a look at your datalogs sometime if you haven't already and you'll see what I mean.

**illinipo** · 09-10-2009, 11:21 AM

^ you also have to be sure your pressure comp tables are correct if you run other than 40.

09-09-2009, 12:14 AM	#26 (permalink)
hEaT I <3 UC^3 Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: CT Posts: 7,449	Re: 325whp 320 wtq STOCK ZETEC Very impressive. Nice tuning work there! __________________ 2001 Twilight Blue ZX3 - Volant Intake, FC 65mm TB, SVT Header, RT High Flow Cat, SVTF Borla Exhaust, Koni's 1985 Nimbus Grey Merkur XR4Ti - Work In Progress Tuned By: Bristol Dyno

09-09-2009, 10:00 AM	#28 (permalink)
CaysE EDM Specialist Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bloomfield, NJ Posts: 10,765	Re: 325whp 320 wtq STOCK ZETEC Good grief... that is awesome. __________________ 2002 Liquid Grey ZX3 ··· SVT replica-in-progress 2003 Vermilion Red SVTf ··· ported JRSC BBK, ported head, 3" exhaust, Euro interior, more to come! strictly/focused • team edm

09-09-2009, 10:10 AM	#29 (permalink)
Spatakula Stoned Scorpion says, "GET OVER H.....OOhhh! Brownies!" Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Rälëigh, NC Posts: 10,689	Re: 325whp 320 wtq STOCK ZETEC I'd love to see what an SVT would do. Call me. Anyways, flippin' sweet #'s! You guys rock! -spatakula __________________ CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL.

09-09-2009, 10:52 AM	#30 (permalink)
DigitalGT Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Jacksonville / Orange Park, FL Posts: 1,975	Re: 325whp 320 wtq STOCK ZETEC WOW! I'm amazed the bottom end is handling that kind of power production. Any blueprinting or balancing done to the lower end before these numbers or did you just turn up the wick and let it rip? Either way, impressive stuff. I hope it stays together for you __________________ '03 Pitch Black SVT 5 Door -- Stroked, blown, ported and massaged. Still not fast enough. '07 Liquid Platinum Metallic Mazda CX-7 Sport -- Turbocharged SUVs FTW! '96 Burgandy Toyota Avalon XLS -- Daily commuter/beater '05 Carbon Fiber Buell Lightning XB12S -- Loud fans save lives. '09 Villain Black Buell 1125CR -- American innovation....Austrian muscle. '07 Red Ducati Sport Classic 1000S -- Sexy body....sadistic ergos.

09-09-2009, 12:25 PM	#32 (permalink)
illinipo TEAM Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 961	Re: 325whp 320 wtq STOCK ZETEC so wait... remind me again why it is we say the rods are only good to 220-240whp??? Thanks for doing the legwork guys PS, electronic knock control is overrated. Just listen to the sensor and turn that crap off. Last edited by illinipo; 09-09-2009 at 12:42 PM.

09-09-2009, 12:38 PM	#33 (permalink)
mattellermets TEAM Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Urbana, IL Posts: 372	Re: 325whp 320 wtq STOCK ZETEC VERY nice. I'm jealous Ja-Red. __________________ SCT PRP FTMFW

09-09-2009, 03:39 PM	#34 (permalink)
polarisman14 Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Henniker, NH Posts: 3,941	Re: 325whp 320 wtq STOCK ZETEC Looks to me like you got the pick of the litter on this one Jared. Congrats on the numbers, can't wait to see what it'll make on a built engine and whatnot. __________________ --UnFocused1-- AKA >>Matt<< --01 Focus "FCS-PWR" 350+whp Work-In-Progress-- <03 Ranger 4.0L "SKIGOD" DD: CAI, custom side exhaust, audio> >86 Ninja 250R "GOPED" 50+mpg bullet: Slip-ons, Pod filters, Jet kit, LED signals, custom plate bracket<

09-09-2009, 05:22 PM	#35 (permalink)
QJKXBM TEAM Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: SoCal Posts: 309	Re: 325whp 320 wtq STOCK ZETEC wtf that's crazy! nice job, hope it lasts!! __________________ Power: electric supercharger, cherry bomb muffler, cone filter, platinum cross fire plugs (more to come)

09-09-2009, 06:48 PM	#37 (permalink)
turbozeteczx3 TEAM Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 669	Re: 325whp 320 wtq STOCK ZETEC Why dont you just sump a duratec tank. you dont have to run another fuel cell in the back you can keep your stock sending unit so the fuel gauge works. if you want more info pm i did this to a guy from orlando or west palm cant remember it was about 8 months ago __________________ TURBO LAG IS GODS WAY OF GIVING V-8 A CHANCE

09-09-2009, 07:03 PM	#38 (permalink)
KingCrabb TEAM Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 145	Re: 325whp 320 wtq STOCK ZETEC with the 3076 what is the boost like. on say 14psi where do u hit full boost. and how much boost do u have at around 3k 2nd gear.

09-09-2009, 10:17 PM	#40 (permalink)
bmylez Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Lackland AFB, TX Posts: 1,922	Re: 325whp 320 wtq STOCK ZETEC Damn, didn't think 325 was capable on the Zetec. I know it's apples to oranges, but a guy pulled 701whp on a stock bottom end S2000...with stock trans. and diff. Seems like when you put on a big turbo with conservative timing, motors tend to hold up under boost fairly well. __________________ 2002 SVTF: custom cams, Thunderbolt HFC, HKS exhaust, etc. SBC stg 3 + Torsen LSD = :-D Aaron @ English Racing - "I can't remember the last time I was impressed by a Ford, but I was impressed by yours."

09-10-2009, 01:08 AM	#43 (permalink)
Paladin TEAM Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: menasha, wi Posts: 109	Re: 325whp 320 wtq STOCK ZETEC well done guys. it good to see people figure this out so i know what it really takes.. __________________ stupid minds creating acts of sheer genius on accident. that's how.

09-10-2009, 01:50 AM	#44 (permalink)
stage3 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 60	Re: 325whp 320 wtq STOCK ZETEC Nice job, finally someone who can tune the car well and have it make great numbers. I guess you guys were lucky, my stock Zetec broke the #3 rod at 300whp after beating the hell out of it for 500 miles. The stock SVT motor I had made 380whp and has been going strong for over 2k miles. I was afraid to push it anywhere over 400 though, but I know the SVT motor can definetly take it. Once again, really nice numbers.

09-10-2009, 02:07 AM	#45 (permalink)
starfuryt550 TEAM Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Michigan Posts: 601	Re: 325whp 320 wtq STOCK ZETEC Impressive... How is the tranny holding up on the stock clutch? I'd think that would go fairly quickly too

09-10-2009, 03:52 AM	#46 (permalink)
focalized31 Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: McAllen, TX Posts: 1,115	Re: 325whp 320 wtq STOCK ZETEC Video.... lol FrEakin SICKKK #s, TS just keeps calling my name LOL __________________ -Chris

09-10-2009, 11:21 AM	#50 (permalink)
illinipo TEAM Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 961	Re: 325whp 320 wtq STOCK ZETEC ^ you also have to be sure your pressure comp tables are correct if you run other than 40.

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