457whp 450wtq Tire Shredder! Update - 504whp/430wtq! - Page 15 - The Ford Focus Forum

**Ja-Red** · 02-05-2010, 05:42 AM

I did make 450ftlbs. Just imagine the cylinder pressures with the stock cams, steep little bump sticks they are and 9.6 compression? most hondas making that kind of torque are making well over 700whp and most people recommend 1/2" head studs for that power.

**Turbofab** · 02-05-2010, 07:41 AM

so if this turbo doesnt work out you should try a garrett billet wheel

**polarisman14** · 02-05-2010, 04:25 PM

This is probably a stupid question but did you guys install the ARP studs with their moly lube, dry, or with oil? That also has a huge effect on how accurate your torque specs are.

Glad to hear there is progress made, albeit problems with the turbo process. Keep up the good work...The most I've done to my car in the last month is stick a mouse repellent bag in it and open the trunk to grab some tools

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**Bigboostrs** · 02-05-2010, 04:39 PM

Awesome thread. Just purchased a GT35R on a twin scroll housing will let you know the outcome.

**topspeedfab** · 02-05-2010, 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polarisman14

This is probably a stupid question but did you guys install the ARP studs with their moly lube, dry, or with oil?

We used ARP Moly Lube.

**Ja-Red** · 02-05-2010, 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigboostrs

Awesome thread. Just purchased a GT35R on a twin scroll housing will let you know the outcome.

Defiantly ready to see that. What manifold are you running?

**Ja-Red** · 02-05-2010, 07:59 PM

I must say I was skeptical of the JayRacing IM but now I am a believer! It is making great power.

Made some good progress with the tune tonight, power wise any way. 433whp 350wtq SAE @23 psi It sure would be nice to have a bigger turbo! But that is the spread I was looking for from hp to tq. I can defiantly tell that the lower compression is hurting me. On the flip side I feel like the head /cam combo is getting me at least 50whp if not more.

Tuning with the mafia is new to me and I can not get the spark to follow the curve I am writing for it to. It is flat and won't climb. There is no knock, but spark is 2 deg lower than I am commanding in the places it is where I want it to be, and it just wont follow the curve I want. Is there anyway the mafia could be changing my spark?

**polarisman14** · 02-06-2010, 07:56 AM

^^Possibly. I would post something in the tuning forum if you haven't already, Randy may chime in. He tuned a higher-hp system for me with a MAFia...I'm nowhere near 400whp but I am over 300. As expected the resolution fades a bit when you are using a signal extender but you can still get the tuning solid with it. Much better than pegging the MAF and dumping fuel, that's for sure.

**Tobyboom** · 02-06-2010, 05:41 PM

Dont fall in love with the intake manifold... LoL I'm glad to know that its making some power. At least I I'll know that I didnt waste money when I bought it. Thanks for being the guinea pig man.

**topspeedfab** · 02-06-2010, 06:25 PM

UPDATE: 504.5 WHP & 430 WTQ!!

Uncorrected 504.5 WHP:

SAE CORRECTED 480.96 WHP:

**bmylez** · 02-06-2010, 06:51 PM

Sweet. I see the torque is lower like Jared wanted. Is the head still lifting?

**IslandFocus** · 02-06-2010, 06:52 PM

That's awesome man! Exactly where I want to be. What turbo is this and how much boost?

**topspeedfab** · 02-06-2010, 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bmylez

Sweet. I see the torque is lower like Jared wanted. Is the head still lifting?

Everything seems fine with the gasket. So far we are very happy with the way the car is making power. We plan on pushing it some more in the upcoming weeks.

**topspeedfab** · 02-06-2010, 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IslandFocus

That's awesome man! Exactly where I want to be. What turbo is this and how much boost?

This is the Garrett 3076. 28 psi

**bmylez** · 02-06-2010, 07:29 PM

Yeah, didn't think you had a new turbo considering Jared was saying things are still being worked out. Those are really good numbers for that turbo. That's really good hp/psi ratio.

**Ja-Red** · 02-06-2010, 07:31 PM

That cold air was really helping us out as the power the car actually made was the 504, the SAE correction stole 23hp.

We are gonna play with the cam and ignition timing but I think there is still some power in it at that boost. Cams are 0,0 and the spark still won't climb like I want, plus it was only 14deg. The other thing is that the boost is starting to drop slightly after 6K I believe we had just under 27psi @ 7K. The turbo may be running out of steam?

But, It did make it to 500whp which is great because I distinctly remember a certain someone telling me there was NO WAY a piece of crap Garrett GT3076 would ever see 500.

**Ja-Red** · 02-06-2010, 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bmylez

Yeah, didn't think you had a new turbo considering Jared was saying things are still being worked out. Those are really good numbers for that turbo. That's really good hp/psi ratio.

When you get your money together I think you know what turbo you need to buy

Hopefully china will get you going in the mean time.

**dhardison** · 02-06-2010, 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by topspeedfab

504.5 WHP
Uncorrected:SAE 480.96 WHP:

WOW!

Ok Bryan, after seeing what you guys can extract from Jared's Zetec, I'll "settle" for 400whp when you tune mine in April.

**bmylez** · 02-06-2010, 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ja-Red

When you get your money together I think you know what turbo you need to buy

Hopefully china will get you going in the mean time.

Yeah about that...what's a ghetto fix in the mean time for connecting the wastegate and dumptube together? I don't want to modify the dumptube if I don't have to. I also have to modify my dang downpipe because the neck of the turbo is longer than a Garrett. The thing that sucks about that is...if I switch back to Garrett I will have to mod the downpipe again, so...

Pretty awesome to see 500whp with a gt3076. A guy on FF was bragging about making 450 with an HX40 @ 30psi...as if that were impressive...

**topspeedfab** · 02-06-2010, 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bmylez

That's really good hp/psi ratio.

13hp per psi. (I am going by SAE numbers)

**ehancock** · 02-06-2010, 10:19 PM

That is simply amazing, nice work guys

**polarisman14** · 02-07-2010, 07:36 AM

Congrats. Think you'll make 600?

**Hocky** · 02-07-2010, 07:38 AM

Congrats, man. That is great. In my opinion, you should forget the bigger turbo, keep that intake mani, and enjoy the car.

**IslandFocus** · 02-07-2010, 08:16 AM

Do you plan on taking it to the drag strip?

**Ja-Red** · 02-07-2010, 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hocky

Congrats, man. That is great. In my opinion, you should forget the bigger turbo, keep that intake mani, and enjoy the car.

Yeah, I am considering a 3076 with an upgraded compressor wheel. It is good for a little more power but spooles up even better because its lighter.

02-05-2010, 05:42 AM	#351 (permalink)
Ja-Red TEAM Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 909	Re: 457whp 450wtq Tire Shredder! I did make 450ftlbs. Just imagine the cylinder pressures with the stock cams, steep little bump sticks they are and 9.6 compression? most hondas making that kind of torque are making well over 700whp and most people recommend 1/2" head studs for that power. __________________ Top Speed GT Street Turbo Kit GT 3076r 504whp 430wtq uncorrected (the actual power the car made), 480whp 410wtq SAE for comparisons, Best time 11.4@123mph http://forums.focaljet.com/forced-induction-nitrous/618026-457whp-450wtq-tire-shredder-update-504whp-430wtq.html custom head by me, Comp stage 2 cams, original stock coil and wires, Jay Racing IM (on loan from TobyBoom), custom tuned by me (Jared Floyd) and Top Speed Performance http://topspeedperformance.net/top_s...roducts/focus/

02-05-2010, 07:41 AM	#352 (permalink)
Turbofab Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 79	Re: 457whp 450wtq Tire Shredder! so if this turbo doesnt work out you should try a garrett billet wheel

02-05-2010, 04:25 PM	#353 (permalink)
polarisman14 Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Henniker, NH Posts: 4,268	Re: 457whp 450wtq Tire Shredder! This is probably a stupid question but did you guys install the ARP studs with their moly lube, dry, or with oil? That also has a huge effect on how accurate your torque specs are. Glad to hear there is progress made, albeit problems with the turbo process. Keep up the good work...The most I've done to my car in the last month is stick a mouse repellent bag in it and open the trunk to grab some tools . __________________ --UnFocused1-- AKA >>Matt<< --01 Focus "FCS-PWR" 350+whp Work-In-Progress-- <03 Ranger 4.0L "SKIGOD" DD: CAI, custom side exhaust, audio> >86 Ninja 250R "GOPED" 50+mpg bullet: Slip-ons, Pod filters, Jet kit, LED signals, custom plate bracket<

02-05-2010, 04:39 PM	#354 (permalink)
Bigboostrs Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 59	Re: 457whp 450wtq Tire Shredder! Awesome thread. Just purchased a GT35R on a twin scroll housing will let you know the outcome. __________________ http://photobucket.com/myfocusrs

02-05-2010, 07:59 PM	#357 (permalink)
Ja-Red TEAM Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 909	Re: 457whp 450wtq Tire Shredder! I must say I was skeptical of the JayRacing IM but now I am a believer! It is making great power. Made some good progress with the tune tonight, power wise any way. 433whp 350wtq SAE @23 psi It sure would be nice to have a bigger turbo! But that is the spread I was looking for from hp to tq. I can defiantly tell that the lower compression is hurting me. On the flip side I feel like the head /cam combo is getting me at least 50whp if not more. Tuning with the mafia is new to me and I can not get the spark to follow the curve I am writing for it to. It is flat and won't climb. There is no knock, but spark is 2 deg lower than I am commanding in the places it is where I want it to be, and it just wont follow the curve I want. Is there anyway the mafia could be changing my spark? __________________ Top Speed GT Street Turbo Kit GT 3076r 504whp 430wtq uncorrected (the actual power the car made), 480whp 410wtq SAE for comparisons, Best time 11.4@123mph http://forums.focaljet.com/forced-induction-nitrous/618026-457whp-450wtq-tire-shredder-update-504whp-430wtq.html custom head by me, Comp stage 2 cams, original stock coil and wires, Jay Racing IM (on loan from TobyBoom), custom tuned by me (Jared Floyd) and Top Speed Performance http://topspeedperformance.net/top_s...roducts/focus/

02-06-2010, 07:56 AM	#358 (permalink)
polarisman14 Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Henniker, NH Posts: 4,268	Re: 457whp 450wtq Tire Shredder! ^^Possibly. I would post something in the tuning forum if you haven't already, Randy may chime in. He tuned a higher-hp system for me with a MAFia...I'm nowhere near 400whp but I am over 300. As expected the resolution fades a bit when you are using a signal extender but you can still get the tuning solid with it. Much better than pegging the MAF and dumping fuel, that's for sure. __________________ --UnFocused1-- AKA >>Matt<< --01 Focus "FCS-PWR" 350+whp Work-In-Progress-- <03 Ranger 4.0L "SKIGOD" DD: CAI, custom side exhaust, audio> >86 Ninja 250R "GOPED" 50+mpg bullet: Slip-ons, Pod filters, Jet kit, LED signals, custom plate bracket<

02-06-2010, 05:41 PM	#359 (permalink)
Tobyboom Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 4,125	Re: 457whp 450wtq Tire Shredder! Dont fall in love with the intake manifold... LoL I'm glad to know that its making some power. At least I I'll know that I didnt waste money when I bought it. Thanks for being the guinea pig man. __________________ "Your car is so scene that my wrists are practically cutting themselves." -spatakula 2009 True Red MazdaSPEED3 2000 Black ZX3 with a custom hair dryer setup 1/4 Mile: 12.557 @ 112mph POWER: 302.25 HP 278.66 TQ

02-06-2010, 06:25 PM	#360 (permalink)
topspeedfab Premier Sponsor Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 445	Re: 457whp 450wtq Tire Shredder! UPDATE: 504.5 WHP & 430 WTQ!! Uncorrected 504.5 WHP: SAE CORRECTED 480.96 WHP: __________________ Bryan Emanuel @ Top Speed (252) 321-6356 Top Speed, INC \| Our eBay Store \| Top Speed Online Store \| Blog \| Contact Us Top Speed Turbo Kit makes 340 whp on stock ZETEC! \| 504whp Top Speed Built ZETEC! \| Top Speed Built Focus 11.6 @ 121 Video Last edited by topspeedfab; 02-06-2010 at 09:13 PM.

02-06-2010, 06:51 PM	#361 (permalink)
bmylez Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Lackland AFB, TX Posts: 2,694	Re: 457whp 450wtq Tire Shredder! Sweet. I see the torque is lower like Jared wanted. Is the head still lifting? __________________ 2002 SVTF: custom cams, HFC, HKS exhaust, etc. SBC stg 3 + Torsen LSD Aaron @ English Racing - "I can't remember the last time I was impressed by a Ford, but I was impressed by yours." Need bewst.

02-06-2010, 06:52 PM	#362 (permalink)
IslandFocus Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Nassau, Bahamas Posts: 2,797	Re: 457whp 450wtq Tire Shredder! That's awesome man! Exactly where I want to be. What turbo is this and how much boost? __________________ 2000 Focus ZX3: Xios Turbo Kit on Built Motor in Progress!!

02-06-2010, 07:29 PM	#365 (permalink)
bmylez Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Lackland AFB, TX Posts: 2,694	Re: 457whp 450wtq Tire Shredder! Update - 504whp/430wtq! Yeah, didn't think you had a new turbo considering Jared was saying things are still being worked out. Those are really good numbers for that turbo. That's really good hp/psi ratio. __________________ 2002 SVTF: custom cams, HFC, HKS exhaust, etc. SBC stg 3 + Torsen LSD Aaron @ English Racing - "I can't remember the last time I was impressed by a Ford, but I was impressed by yours." Need bewst.

02-06-2010, 07:31 PM	#366 (permalink)
Ja-Red TEAM Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 909	Re: 457whp 450wtq Tire Shredder! Update - 504whp/430wtq! That cold air was really helping us out as the power the car actually made was the 504, the SAE correction stole 23hp. We are gonna play with the cam and ignition timing but I think there is still some power in it at that boost. Cams are 0,0 and the spark still won't climb like I want, plus it was only 14deg. The other thing is that the boost is starting to drop slightly after 6K I believe we had just under 27psi @ 7K. The turbo may be running out of steam? But, It did make it to 500whp which is great because I distinctly remember a certain someone telling me there was NO WAY a piece of crap Garrett GT3076 would ever see 500. __________________ Top Speed GT Street Turbo Kit GT 3076r 504whp 430wtq uncorrected (the actual power the car made), 480whp 410wtq SAE for comparisons, Best time 11.4@123mph http://forums.focaljet.com/forced-induction-nitrous/618026-457whp-450wtq-tire-shredder-update-504whp-430wtq.html custom head by me, Comp stage 2 cams, original stock coil and wires, Jay Racing IM (on loan from TobyBoom), custom tuned by me (Jared Floyd) and Top Speed Performance http://topspeedperformance.net/top_s...roducts/focus/

02-06-2010, 10:19 PM	#371 (permalink)
ehancock Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Plymouth, MI Posts: 1,416	Re: 457whp 450wtq Tire Shredder! Update - 504whp/430wtq! That is simply amazing, nice work guys

02-07-2010, 07:36 AM	#372 (permalink)
polarisman14 Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Henniker, NH Posts: 4,268	Re: 457whp 450wtq Tire Shredder! Update - 504whp/430wtq! Congrats. Think you'll make 600? __________________ --UnFocused1-- AKA >>Matt<< --01 Focus "FCS-PWR" 350+whp Work-In-Progress-- <03 Ranger 4.0L "SKIGOD" DD: CAI, custom side exhaust, audio> >86 Ninja 250R "GOPED" 50+mpg bullet: Slip-ons, Pod filters, Jet kit, LED signals, custom plate bracket<

02-07-2010, 07:38 AM	#373 (permalink)
Hocky Dyno Queen Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 7,508	Re: 457whp 450wtq Tire Shredder! Update - 504whp/430wtq! Congrats, man. That is great. In my opinion, you should forget the bigger turbo, keep that intake mani, and enjoy the car. __________________ I have a leaf sprung sports car and a coil sprung SUV. Bring it.

02-07-2010, 08:16 AM	#374 (permalink)
IslandFocus Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Nassau, Bahamas Posts: 2,797	Re: 457whp 450wtq Tire Shredder! Update - 504whp/430wtq! Do you plan on taking it to the drag strip? __________________ 2000 Focus ZX3: Xios Turbo Kit on Built Motor in Progress!!

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