P1381 & P1383 Fix (IMPORTANT Timing Belt Info)

[vroom4]

Can you post the youtube please. CEL just came back on after 100 miles

[jbswear]

I tried to set it again today, with the instructions above, but it ran like crap after...and before it was running fine, but throwing the code for being over advanced. I said eff it and took it to the local shop. Hopefully they can set the timing without killing my wallet.

[WuNgUn]

Did you check and measure the position of the intake can position sensor ring?
Your timing might be right but your sensor "off"

[jbswear]

Nope. Had no clue that it could or should be done.

[WuNgUn]

I noticed on mine that it moved. And it can be tapped to spin it on the cam...
There was a tsb issued for it moving.
Search my threads in it.
Ultimately it was my flywheel sensor, but my cam sensor was out of spec as well.

[vroom4]

So, I got the P1380 code, not advanced or retarded after I did my Tbelt. However after I rip it apart, set at TDC at crank, I can easily tap the timing bar into the cam ends....that makes me think the VCT is set correctly right? Can you test the VCT sensor itself?

[qweesy]

video done yes COS?

[COSVT03]

No. I have a VERY full plate at the moment. Sorry.
If I didn't rely on the money I make when not doing the video, it would get done MUCH quicker.
Just as a side note. I picked up about a MONTHS worth of work over the last week. Busy busy busy as it gets colder out.

[SamSVT]

I was successful the first time I put it back together, but being an novice mechanic I didnt check my plugs. They all had cracks in the ceramic and were miss firing, but no codes were being thrown. Now I guess I really know what a misfire is.

If you guys are looking for the video cause you absolutely dont get it, let me know Ill send you the raw videos and you can sift through them.

[COSVT03]

Thank Sam.

I am looking at editing down Sam's video to about 2-3 minutes.
Is there a pro that can do the editing in 2 minutes available?

PLEASE PM SamSVT. (I'm good with computers - but I KNOW there are people that can edit these much better and much faster than myself)

[cy1clown]

Just wanted to say these instructions helped me eliminate my CEL after timing belt change. A couple of things I did note. First when I set the cam the first time I did do it correctly but the cam timing bar had to be tapped to seat in the notches. The second time I followed these instructions and placed the timing bar in the exhaust cam slot and the juste slid it in front of the intake cam slot. There was about 1/16 inch of daylight on one side of the slot. At first I did not think this would be enough to throw a code. I reset the cam anyway, and it seems to have solved the problem. Running good for 3 days now.
Also of note is that I never did loosen the cam gear from the exhaust side. I set the crank to the pin stop and the exhaust cam with the timing bar then slid the belt over the crank gear and exhaust timing gear. That part went fine and never had a problem it was only the intake VCT that caused me a problem. Another thing people might want to watch out for are the spark plug wires. I did not remove them from the coil pack just flipped them back out of the way. long story short I must have damaged them becouse I had a terrible misfire that was solved with new wires.

Again Thanks to OP for the instructions.

Jon

[vroom4]

So when you set the intake cam you loosened the cam gear or not?

[SamSVT]

yes you loosen it

[qweesy]

hows the video coming along?

[SD_Rider]

I was referred her from FocusFanatics. I'm hoping someone here can help.
I have the P1383 code, but I just paid to have the timing set in November. Where is the sensor located and how to test it...or is it sensed in the ecu? I would like to verify it's not a sensor before I take it back to the mechanic to fix the timing.

Thanks!