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Old 12-12-2005, 08:49 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I'v been looking at the forum and all of the people who have installed Start buttons. I like this idea, but I'v been thinking of a few other things as well.

I want to keep the key ignition because I like the security of the PATS. I just want to move the ignition cylinder to the center console, right being the shifter and install the start button next to it. How easily could this be done?
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Ok, here it is. The write up for my S2000 Engine Start Button. I'll be updating it with my ignition relocation. If I do that...

This was pretty easy to setup with the kit I bought from ebay. I payed $67 for a start button, relay and wires. The seller also included a wiring diagram of my car, which made life A LOT easier.

Now the actual install of the button. First find a location to install it. I see a lot of people putting this in place of the cigarette lighter. Personally I need that, so that was scratched off the list right off the bat. Before you even think it, I don't smoke, :-P. Anyhow, I thought it would be nice to move the ignition down to the console and install the start button next to it. Well, the ignition won't be done right away because it's a little more in depth than I anticipated. I have installed the Engine Start Button already and here is the low down on the installation.

After deciding where to put the start button I began to measure and cut the hole. TEST FITMENT OFTEN. I cannot emphasize this enough. It took me about 20-30 minutes to drill and fabricate this hole so the button sits flush and will not move. There is a flat side on the button that keeps it straight and in place as you can see in the pictures.





Now, after you finally get the hole drilled and the button installed firmly you can work wiring the switch and relay. I will get pictures and instructions on this ASAP as I didn't take any pictures of the switch yet.


Once the switch is wired you can start routing the wires to the ignition. Obviously this will be different for everyone as you may not install it in this location. I do recommend that you route one at a time, or use different color wires. I used White so I can easily tell which wires are for my start button. I will be using different colors for my switches to disable the ignition and only allow the S2000 button to start the car. Here are some pictures of the wiring.







Once the wires are routed you need to locate the 2 wires in the steering column. You need 2 wires under here. As you see in the picture below there are a few wires in there steering column. The only ones we need are the solid red (12v constant) and the gray and black (starter) wires. These wires should be located on the LEFT side of the column. Yes, the left side. I don't know why the Focus's wiring for the ignition is located there, but it is. This is another reason why I have not moved the ignition.. Here is a picture of the wiring in the column.



Once you have located the wires (see below) you can then start by splicing the wires. Here are some pictures of what wires to find.



Now I attached one wire at a time and labeled them with some tape. I didn't cut any wires at all, I used some of those T-Taps. (Thanks paulhaskew)






I do not have a detailed picture of the switch yet but I will scan the document I received and this will give you a good idea of how the switch and relay is hooked up.

I'll be looking into moving the ignition and keep you updated with how that can be done.
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Old 12-12-2005, 05:25 PM   #2 (permalink)
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this is a great idea and easily plausable.....take lots of pictures and lets make a writeup for relocating your ignititon cylinder

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Old 12-14-2005, 06:51 PM   #3 (permalink)
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PICTURES!!! Well, one picture. This will help with imagining what I want to do. Any input on how hard/easy it would be to move the ignition cylinder would help greatly. I won't want to touch this until I have things mapped out.


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Old 12-14-2005, 07:55 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I thought it'd be a cool idea to relocate the ignition cylinder assembly to the main dash panel. I've always thought this was a pretty neat thing on cars that have it stock.
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Old 12-14-2005, 07:58 PM   #5 (permalink)
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thats a good idea, if i were to attempt this i would try to put the ignition in a hidden location somehow or another and only have the start button where you have it, but yours looks like it would be really cool.
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Old 12-14-2005, 10:32 PM   #6 (permalink)
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if i did that i would switch those 2 locations
but i cant wait



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Pats really isn't the problem, what your going to run it to is somehow having the steering column lock and unlock(when you take the key out, the steering wheel won't move).......plus you would also have to relocate the electical part of the switch too........I guess if you don't mind having you column not locked, it really won't be that hard......
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........I guess if you don't mind having you column not locked, it really won't be that hard......
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So just removing the cylinder is only electrical changes and rewiring. Which is nothing big. The lock won't pose a problem with the ignition cylinder being moved? I don't care if it's not locked, I mean, if someone wants your car, they will get it one way or another, right? I'm gonna start taking my car apart and mapping this out. I'll make a write up on this for everyone. (With pictures)
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Ok, start button is installed. I'll have a write up on that shortly. The ignition relocation is going to be difficult and I'm try it out on a junk yard car first and then going from there. I'll keep everything updated.
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So I never really got an answer about the wheel lock... if you plug up the key hole, what keeps the wheel from locking?
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i would like to see some pictures, mainly of where the ignition cylinder found its home. I agree with one of the statements above. I love the look of the ignition cylinder placement on the Ford Thunderbird and Lincoln LS....alsways thougt it would look nice on a focus. Cylinder in the dash, start button elsewhere.
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My old Fairlane had the ignition on the dash... it was cool.
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I don't like the security risk of push button start. This would be my choice: http://www.cyberguys.com/templates/s...search=&child= No clue how it would be done though. No picture, linky no work either; or is it just me?
That would be awesome, but you need a omputer to go with it.
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FordFociSHO, there isn't a security risk, once I post my pictures you will see how it's setup. If anything, it's more secure the way I set it up with a few extra switches...
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Ok guys, some info is up on my install of the S2000 Start Engine Button. Use the link below or click on the one in my sig. I will update this later, so keep looking.

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btw, the techincal term for those taps, its a T-Tap
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Ahh, I'll change that now. Thanks!!
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I wanted to move my post for the write up to the top. This makes it easier for everyone to view it, so look up there...

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Bump, for my new thread in For Sale.

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btw, the techincal term for those taps, its a T-Tap
no actually it is not t-tap, it is scotchlock..

t tap is what you used with male disconnect, so it looks like "T"
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Bump, for my new thread in For Sale.

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and is this same setup as intuneauto thing??
or different??

bcuz i m very interested..
i have s2000 engine start button setup already but i need alarm to go with it.
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I'm not 100% sure what InTuneAuto did, but it's kinda close. My setup is with switches and completely bypassing the ignition cylinder.
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if you can make a video clip for this setup, it would b great
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