Noise control build thread - The Ford Focus Forum

**CaysE** · 10-26-2009, 12:58 AM

I'm on a mission to make my interior both passenger-friendly and capable of high sound quality out of the sound system. I'll be using Damplifier Pro and Overkill Pro from secondskinaudio.com (I wish I could say I was being sponsored for this) for the bulk of the sound deadening, and I'll be taking some queues from various threads posted here already (some of bluefront's mods, for example).

I'm already nearly done with the driverside door, but I'll get to those later when I finish both doors. For now, here's the hatch already in progress. I started with the spare wheel well with a single layer of vibration dampener (I did finish the left side after this)

And then cut out a piece of noise barrier to fit. I decided not to glue this piece down as it really didn't seem necessary. It's pretty thick stuff:

On bumps in the road, I was sometimes getting a clunking sound from the hatch area. I realized when I started this project that it was the jack bouncing around... the foam helped significantly in the department, so I shored up one other little annoying sound I'd sometimes hear: the arm of the jack hitting the jack itself. Some superglue got this foam piece in place for good:

So now we continue with the rest of the hatch...

This is where I left off for now... lots more to come, including how to deaden your doors while looking OEM and maintaining access to the door interior (in case of broken window motors and whatnot).

**Spatakula** · 10-26-2009, 08:13 AM

Awesome Casey! Looks great so far.

-spatakula

**98LowRanger** · 10-26-2009, 09:15 AM

I've been wanting to do this to my focus for a loooooong time. I'll be paying close attention to this since this is a DEFINITE to do to the Miata. Keep up the great work!

**CaysE** · 10-26-2009, 10:08 AM

You need a rollcage in that Miata first.

**MrBirdman330** · 10-26-2009, 04:08 PM

I took a sheet of sound insulation cut to match the floor of my trunk and slid it under the carpet. It really does wonders for killing sound in the back of the car. I'm thinking of getting another sheet and extending it to under the back seats and possibly later under all the carpet of the car.

**2focusd** · 10-26-2009, 07:32 PM

I can't wait to see more updates on this thread, Casey

I'm tempted to do some sound deadening in the Tiburon when I eventually change out the door speakers, even though it's already worlds better than Rattletrap

-Brian

**starfuryt550** · 10-26-2009, 07:40 PM

I love sound deadening and am gonna do this we well when i get the chance...I didthe speaker surrounds, but its not enough!

**LornesBored** · 10-26-2009, 09:24 PM

lets see the door! I want to see how did you did it to maintain access to the window regualtor and runners and such.

**Binky** · 10-26-2009, 09:44 PM

Good thing you seriously upgraded your horsepower - will more than offset the added weight from sound-deadening. Go nuts!

**CaysE** · 10-26-2009, 11:45 PM

LOL sound deadening isn't THAT heavy. I'll have lots of pics of the doors soon... I had to get the doorpanels finished first. WINK

**Dimitri** · 10-26-2009, 11:58 PM

Saw a couple of neat info-vids on youtube with Buzz Thomson (Previous Truck-U host) giving a couple of "how-to" tips using a product called "Second Skin".

Good luck with your project.

1st vid dampens underside of hood
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wn_fqnSBWE

Quick vid on doorsill
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jlWp...eature=related

9:00 min vid on trunk and interior sound dampening
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5E9m...eature=related

**CaysE** · 10-27-2009, 12:12 AM

That's the stuff.

I'm using the "Pro" versions of Damplifier and Overkill, which are thicker than the regular versions.

**JFord** · 10-27-2009, 02:18 PM

Great mod! I think it's worth it alone for the comfort aspect.

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaysE

LOL sound deadening isn't THAT heavy. I'll have lots of pics of the doors soon... I had to get the doorpanels finished first. WINK

Awesome!!

**Superchop** · 10-27-2009, 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaysE

LOL sound deadening isn't THAT heavy. I'll have lots of pics of the doors soon... I had to get the doorpanels finished first. WINK

Lol, is it safe for me to say "Finally!!!"?

**TXFO** · 10-27-2009, 08:21 PM

very cool!

I spent my last saturday gutting my dad's civic and covering it in B-quiet extreme. Made a great difference but I think we'll go back and put some more products in it, Ray has had some great advice for making it even quieter.

**CaysE** · 10-27-2009, 09:20 PM

If you check out the info on Second Skin's website, they go into some good detail on layering different sound deadening and heat reflecting products.

**Binky** · 10-27-2009, 10:30 PM

Damn! Those door panels are finally done? Killer.

**HTPerformance** · 10-28-2009, 11:29 AM

Looking good Casey, oddly enough, we tend to do the opposite and rip out the factory deadening for weight savings...lol

Must sound good... I mean sound quiet?

**CaysE** · 10-28-2009, 11:31 AM

LOL yes the doorpanel inserts are finally done.

Yeah it sounds a lot better already... definitely quieted the exhaust noise coming in through the hatch.

**Binky** · 10-28-2009, 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaysE

LOL yes the doorpanel inserts are finally done.

Good thing they weren't done during the ROTM Interior voting at FF - no one else would've gotten any votes.

**CaysE** · 10-28-2009, 04:27 PM

Hahahaha... ^_^

**SVTRSST** · 10-28-2009, 08:15 PM

damn man... you k now what i could bet you are a chick.. you have really good interior and exterior ideas lmao, i started to buy turbo stuff, hopefully ill do this sometime, please do not delete the pictures or rename them!

looking badass

**CaysE** · 10-28-2009, 09:44 PM

Only chicks have good taste? I guess slipster17, Spatakula, Ataru, Chaney, kenzx3, SVT2RS, 98LowRanger, 2focusd and the army of other tastful Focus and ex-Focus owners here are chicks too.

**SVTRSST** · 10-28-2009, 10:19 PM

haha omg!!!!! ive been surrounded by chicks and i never realized... OMGWTF haha jk

**secondechomatt** · 10-29-2009, 08:50 AM

just a random, save monies suggestion...

I just got started on the bronco in sound proofing and I'll pass on a couple hints.

1. If you go to Lowes, in the roofing department, there is a product called "peel and seal". Its a sticky asphalt based, aluminum foil backed product. Made by the same company that produces dynamat. Except without the pricey stamp on it. I got 100 sqft for $55.

2. Also while at the home improvement store, pick up some expanding foam in a can. It has a long nozzle and is fantastic for filling in gaps and spaces behind interior panels and the a,b and c pillars.

Keep up the vault work!

10-26-2009, 12:58 AM	#1 (permalink)
CaysE EDM Specialist Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bloomfield, NJ Posts: 10,765	Noise control build thread I'm on a mission to make my interior both passenger-friendly and capable of high sound quality out of the sound system. I'll be using Damplifier Pro and Overkill Pro from secondskinaudio.com (I wish I could say I was being sponsored for this) for the bulk of the sound deadening, and I'll be taking some queues from various threads posted here already (some of bluefront's mods, for example). I'm already nearly done with the driverside door, but I'll get to those later when I finish both doors. For now, here's the hatch already in progress. I started with the spare wheel well with a single layer of vibration dampener (I did finish the left side after this) And then cut out a piece of noise barrier to fit. I decided not to glue this piece down as it really didn't seem necessary. It's pretty thick stuff: On bumps in the road, I was sometimes getting a clunking sound from the hatch area. I realized when I started this project that it was the jack bouncing around... the foam helped significantly in the department, so I shored up one other little annoying sound I'd sometimes hear: the arm of the jack hitting the jack itself. Some superglue got this foam piece in place for good: So now we continue with the rest of the hatch... This is where I left off for now... lots more to come, including how to deaden your doors while looking OEM and maintaining access to the door interior (in case of broken window motors and whatnot). __________________ 2002 Liquid Grey ZX3 ··· SVT replica-in-progress 2003 Vermilion Red SVTf ··· ported JRSC BBK, ported head, 3" exhaust, Euro interior, more to come! strictly/focused • team edm

10-26-2009, 08:13 AM	#2 (permalink)
Spatakula Stoned Scorpion says, "GET OVER H.....OOhhh! Brownies!" Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Rälëigh, NC Posts: 10,689	Re: Noise control build thread Awesome Casey! Looks great so far. -spatakula __________________ CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL.

10-26-2009, 10:08 AM	#4 (permalink)
CaysE EDM Specialist Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bloomfield, NJ Posts: 10,765	Re: Noise control build thread You need a rollcage in that Miata first. __________________ 2002 Liquid Grey ZX3 ··· SVT replica-in-progress 2003 Vermilion Red SVTf ··· ported JRSC BBK, ported head, 3" exhaust, Euro interior, more to come! strictly/focused • team edm

10-26-2009, 04:08 PM	#5 (permalink)
MrBirdman330 Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: At a U-Haul Center near you. Posts: 1,472	Re: Noise control build thread I took a sheet of sound insulation cut to match the floor of my trunk and slid it under the carpet. It really does wonders for killing sound in the back of the car. I'm thinking of getting another sheet and extending it to under the back seats and possibly later under all the carpet of the car. __________________ Everybody says you can't make money off small cars. Well, you'd better damn well figure out how to make money, because that's where the world is going. - Alan Mulally

10-26-2009, 07:32 PM	#6 (permalink)
2focusd [FJ] Addict Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Uniontown, PA Posts: 15,364	Re: Noise control build thread I can't wait to see more updates on this thread, Casey I'm tempted to do some sound deadening in the Tiburon when I eventually change out the door speakers, even though it's already worlds better than Rattletrap -Brian __________________ Godspeed, Colin McRae, may you live on forever as the reason countless people fell in love with the Ford Focus (myself included). 1968-2007 '08 Carbon Grey Metallic Hyundai Tuscani GT V6 Early '00 ZX3 - E-spec in progress (Rattletrap) - Gone but not forgotten!

10-26-2009, 07:40 PM	#7 (permalink)
starfuryt550 TEAM Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Michigan Posts: 600	Re: Noise control build thread I love sound deadening and am gonna do this we well when i get the chance...I didthe speaker surrounds, but its not enough!

10-26-2009, 09:24 PM	#8 (permalink)
LornesBored [FJ] Special Ed. Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: West Van, BC, Canada Posts: 9,192	Re: Noise control build thread lets see the door! I want to see how did you did it to maintain access to the window regualtor and runners and such.

10-26-2009, 09:44 PM	#9 (permalink)
Binky TEAM Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: C.C. & The V.S. Posts: 125	Re: Noise control build thread Good thing you seriously upgraded your horsepower - will more than offset the added weight from sound-deadening. Go nuts! __________________ Binky here, Shepski there

10-26-2009, 11:45 PM	#10 (permalink)
CaysE EDM Specialist Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bloomfield, NJ Posts: 10,765	Re: Noise control build thread LOL sound deadening isn't THAT heavy. I'll have lots of pics of the doors soon... I had to get the doorpanels finished first. WINK __________________ 2002 Liquid Grey ZX3 ··· SVT replica-in-progress 2003 Vermilion Red SVTf ··· ported JRSC BBK, ported head, 3" exhaust, Euro interior, more to come! strictly/focused • team edm Last edited by CaysE; 10-26-2009 at 11:52 PM.

10-26-2009, 11:58 PM	#11 (permalink)
Dimitri TEAM Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 333	Re: Noise control build thread Saw a couple of neat info-vids on youtube with Buzz Thomson (Previous Truck-U host) giving a couple of "how-to" tips using a product called "Second Skin". Good luck with your project. 1st vid dampens underside of hood http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wn_fqnSBWE Quick vid on doorsill http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jlWp...eature=related 9:00 min vid on trunk and interior sound dampening http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5E9m...eature=related __________________ 2007 Pitch Black ZX3. Street Appearance Package, 17" EAP rims, Eibach Sportlines, F2 Sideskirts, 20% Tint.

10-27-2009, 12:12 AM	#12 (permalink)
CaysE EDM Specialist Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bloomfield, NJ Posts: 10,765	Re: Noise control build thread That's the stuff. I'm using the "Pro" versions of Damplifier and Overkill, which are thicker than the regular versions. __________________ 2002 Liquid Grey ZX3 ··· SVT replica-in-progress 2003 Vermilion Red SVTf ··· ported JRSC BBK, ported head, 3" exhaust, Euro interior, more to come! strictly/focused • team edm

10-27-2009, 08:21 PM	#15 (permalink)
TXFO Not Special Enough Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: back in Jane's diary Posts: 13,862	Re: Noise control build thread very cool! I spent my last saturday gutting my dad's civic and covering it in B-quiet extreme. Made a great difference but I think we'll go back and put some more products in it, Ray has had some great advice for making it even quieter. __________________ German and Italian car tech. Fixin to adjust the knob to HIGH POWERED. black belt at the drunk as balls dojo. Bloodshot eyes, metal skin, serpent's tongue, dagger claws, dragon wings, crooked horns. KING!

10-27-2009, 09:20 PM	#16 (permalink)
CaysE EDM Specialist Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bloomfield, NJ Posts: 10,765	Re: Noise control build thread If you check out the info on Second Skin's website, they go into some good detail on layering different sound deadening and heat reflecting products. __________________ 2002 Liquid Grey ZX3 ··· SVT replica-in-progress 2003 Vermilion Red SVTf ··· ported JRSC BBK, ported head, 3" exhaust, Euro interior, more to come! strictly/focused • team edm

10-27-2009, 10:30 PM	#17 (permalink)
Binky TEAM Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: C.C. & The V.S. Posts: 125	Re: Noise control build thread Damn! Those door panels are finally done? Killer. __________________ Binky here, Shepski there

10-28-2009, 11:29 AM	#18 (permalink)
HTPerformance Premier Sponsor Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Bridgewater, MA Posts: 2,026	Re: Noise control build thread Looking good Casey, oddly enough, we tend to do the opposite and rip out the factory deadening for weight savings...lol Must sound good... I mean sound quiet? __________________ Brian Hult Founder *HTPerformance - Premium Performance Parts. Committed to Design Excellence.* 30 First Street, Unit #3 Bridgewater, MA 02324 Ph: +1.508.659.4466 E: brian@htperformance.net Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/HTPerformance Follow us on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/HTPerf...ET/32467520987

10-28-2009, 11:31 AM	#19 (permalink)
CaysE EDM Specialist Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bloomfield, NJ Posts: 10,765	Re: Noise control build thread LOL yes the doorpanel inserts are finally done. Yeah it sounds a lot better already... definitely quieted the exhaust noise coming in through the hatch. __________________ 2002 Liquid Grey ZX3 ··· SVT replica-in-progress 2003 Vermilion Red SVTf ··· ported JRSC BBK, ported head, 3" exhaust, Euro interior, more to come! strictly/focused • team edm

10-28-2009, 04:27 PM	#21 (permalink)
CaysE EDM Specialist Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bloomfield, NJ Posts: 10,765	Re: Noise control build thread Hahahaha... ^_^ __________________ 2002 Liquid Grey ZX3 ··· SVT replica-in-progress 2003 Vermilion Red SVTf ··· ported JRSC BBK, ported head, 3" exhaust, Euro interior, more to come! strictly/focused • team edm

10-28-2009, 08:15 PM	#22 (permalink)
SVTRSST TEAM Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 633	Re: Noise control build thread damn man... you k now what i could bet you are a chick.. you have really good interior and exterior ideas lmao, i started to buy turbo stuff, hopefully ill do this sometime, please do not delete the pictures or rename them! looking badass __________________ 03 SVTF

10-28-2009, 09:44 PM	#23 (permalink)
CaysE EDM Specialist Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bloomfield, NJ Posts: 10,765	Re: Noise control build thread Only chicks have good taste? I guess slipster17, Spatakula, Ataru, Chaney, kenzx3, SVT2RS, 98LowRanger, 2focusd and the army of other tastful Focus and ex-Focus owners here are chicks too. __________________ 2002 Liquid Grey ZX3 ··· SVT replica-in-progress 2003 Vermilion Red SVTf ··· ported JRSC BBK, ported head, 3" exhaust, Euro interior, more to come! strictly/focused • team edm

10-28-2009, 10:19 PM	#24 (permalink)
SVTRSST TEAM Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 633	Re: Noise control build thread haha omg!!!!! ive been surrounded by chicks and i never realized... OMGWTF haha jk __________________ 03 SVTF

10-29-2009, 08:50 AM	#25 (permalink)
secondechomatt [FJ] Specialist Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Trenton, MI. Posts: 5,293	Re: Noise control build thread just a random, save monies suggestion... I just got started on the bronco in sound proofing and I'll pass on a couple hints. 1. If you go to Lowes, in the roofing department, there is a product called "peel and seal". Its a sticky asphalt based, aluminum foil backed product. Made by the same company that produces dynamat. Except without the pricey stamp on it. I got 100 sqft for $55. 2. Also while at the home improvement store, pick up some expanding foam in a can. It has a long nozzle and is fantastic for filling in gaps and spaces behind interior panels and the a,b and c pillars. Keep up the vault work! __________________ BRONCO BFG/RUST/WHITETRASH/TREEFAIL "The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, "I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it."

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