Massive Dogbone- - Focaljet

**SVT-SAGE** · 08-30-2007, 10:43 PM

Hey thanks for the dogbone, that thing has Massive bushings

. Nice and stout. It definately improved my shifting, no more stutter after shifting, just solid shifts.

**K STYLEZ** · 08-31-2007, 09:05 AM

You let the cat out of the bag!!!

Glad you like it!!!

**SLVRbulletSVT03** · 08-31-2007, 02:37 PM

Geeeeeeeeeew! That thing is huge!

I may have to pick one up to replace my MAC mount....

**jerkeesvt** · 08-31-2007, 02:45 PM

Looks like a very nice piece!!

**Qwik1** · 08-31-2007, 02:50 PM

Looks like a stocker with upgraded bushings.

Maybe it's just me.

**K STYLEZ** · 08-31-2007, 06:29 PM

Its a steel mount versus the mostly aluminum stockers. The aluminum ones break quite often on most higher torque boosted vehicles.

**whyme** · 08-31-2007, 06:55 PM

so what are we talking price?

**SVT-SAGE** · 08-31-2007, 07:08 PM

Dude this thing is way more solid than the stocker. Not only are the bushings poly but the dogbone is some hardcore steel, and weighs alot more than the aluminum stock piece.

**K STYLEZ** · 08-31-2007, 07:30 PM

Should be around $75.

**Qwik1** · 08-31-2007, 07:39 PM

Um, the stocker in my 2000 ZTS was steel. So is the one from my 06 ST. This pic looks EXACTLY like both of them. Even has numbers cast in the same location in the recess, looks like the numbers on the small end were ground off before painting.

**K STYLEZ** · 08-31-2007, 07:43 PM

None of the early cars had steel mounts. We've replaced literally hundreds of them.

**Qwik1** · 08-31-2007, 07:58 PM

Not trying to knock you or your product here. Looks like a good value w/ some very nice bushings.

But I will post pics tonight so you can see what I mean. I would put down $20 on that being a stock mount frame.

**SVT-SAGE** · 08-31-2007, 10:16 PM

Here's another pic for you to analyse.

**Oreo** · 09-01-2007, 01:59 AM

My '05 ST came with a steel mount also. Looks identical to the one Massive is selling.

I'd like to point out an issue regarding the orientation of the large bushing. In the pic it is installed exactly the way the directions specify in the Energy Suspension bushing package. However, when I performed my own bushing swap I realized that the directions were infact flawed. The bushing needs to be rotated 180 degrees so that the flat spot on the rim of the bushing faces the small end of the mount. This way, the bushing conforms propperly to the frame of the car.

**Qwik1** · 09-01-2007, 05:54 AM

So, can you seriously state that yours is not a stock mount with black Energy suspension bushings? This is my stocker. Pretty obvious. Now, what you are selling is a good combo at a fair price. My objection is the claim that this is a Massive mount, along with the "Unbreakable" claim. I know, for a fact, that this mount frame has been broken by quite a few people. Many of them used the same type of bushings. Again, good product at a fair price. Just sell it for what it really is without the hype. That is, unless-- are you actually going to give a lifetime warranty to match the "Unbreakable"?

**MSpeedRacing** · 09-01-2007, 10:59 AM

looks pretty much the same?

**pzev04boy** · 09-01-2007, 11:48 AM

00 - 04 Mounts were all aluminum. And they break very easily.

We offer a ready to go kit using the steel version. Saves the pain of having to press bushings and is rock solid.

**Qwik1** · 09-01-2007, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pzev04boy

We offer a ready to go kit using the steel version. Saves the pain of having to press bushings and is rock solid.

Thank you. I'll get out of your hair now.

I was just picturing some guy just starting to mod buying this, pulling out the stocker, and freaking out thinking he got ripped off.

**IslandFocus** · 09-01-2007, 01:47 PM

So this is actually a steel factory mount with upgraded bushings then?

**Oreo** · 09-02-2007, 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Qwik1

My objection is the claim that this is a Massive mount, along with the "Unbreakable" claim. I know, for a fact, that this mount frame has been broken by quite a few people. Many of them used the same type of bushings.

I can say that, while the aluminum mount might break, I have a very hard time imagining the steel one that came on my ST ever breaking, even under highly abusive conditions. Probably more likely that you'd ruin the urethane bushing first.

Having said that, the steel version is like, 900,000lbs heavier then the aluminum version. Kinda reminds me of that oil commercial with the cars dragging boat ankers.

**illinipo** · 10-01-2007, 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oreo

I'd like to point out an issue regarding the orientation of the large bushing. In the pic it is installed exactly the way the directions specify in the Energy Suspension bushing package. However, when I performed my own bushing swap I realized that the directions were infact flawed. The bushing needs to be rotated 180 degrees so that the flat spot on the rim of the bushing faces the small end of the mount. This way, the bushing conforms propperly to the frame of the car.

This may be true, but I have one question: How the HELL did you get the bushing past the bulge in the K-member???? I tried, failed, and spun it around for easier installation.

PS Karl have you ever put one of these, or any rear mount I guess, on an atx? I cannot stand the vibrations at stoplights, and ive only had it in for 2 days. It seriously gives me a headache...reminds me of a hooptie with 15" subs playing a high note...constantly... Changing "Drive idle speed" in my xcal tune only bumps up the engine speed while the car is in motion with the throttle closed, not while its stopped.

**NewtzZx3** · 10-02-2007, 09:44 AM

no matter what upgraded dogbone you get, if it is stiffer and does its job, you are gonna get the vibration. only cure is more cowbell! j/k, only thing to do is raise the idle like you say

**infraredhb** · 10-04-2007, 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by illinipo

This may be true, but I have one question: How the HELL did you get the bushing past the bulge in the K-member???? I tried, failed, and spun it around for easier installation.

A press does wonders Pete!

**illinipo** · 10-04-2007, 10:18 AM

Now I have a question to you: How do you get a press under the car

Of course I used a press to get the bushings in, der...

But my original question related to installation on the vehicle.

Changing the idle with the xcal doesnt change the idle, now I am very specific about this situation, IN DRIVE OR REVERSE AND AT A STOP. If you are in drive and rolling, THAT is when the xcal makes a diference in idle. But as soon as I stop, the roms drop to some insanely low number (no tach...)

**Oreo** · 10-05-2007, 03:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by illinipo

This may be true, but I have one question: How the HELL did you get the bushing past the bulge in the K-member???? I tried, failed, and spun it around for easier installation.

That's a good question.

I installed the bushi

08-30-2007, 10:43 PM	#1
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08-31-2007, 09:05 AM	#2
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08-31-2007, 02:37 PM	#3
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08-31-2007, 02:45 PM	#4
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08-31-2007, 06:29 PM	#6
K STYLEZ Premier Sponsor Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Chi-town, IL Posts: 2,387	Re: Massive Dogbone- Its a steel mount versus the mostly aluminum stockers. The aluminum ones break quite often on most higher torque boosted vehicles. __________________ Never interrupt your opponent while he's making a mistake. www.massivespeedsystem.com -The Midwest's Focus Power Source-

08-31-2007, 06:55 PM	#7
whyme Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: angola, NY Posts: 1,668	Re: Massive Dogbone- so what are we talking price? __________________ 2006 zx3, 2.0 PZEV. Toreador red Body Mods: Roush front fascia, HIDs (6k), 5% Tint, Blue turns, Silverstar fogs, painted headlights, BOSCH wipers. Performance Mods: MBRP exhust, F2 CAI, F2 Header, Cosworth Cams, CFM 65mm TB, FC short throw, Steeda MIL eliminator, energy dogbone inserts, SVT 5 spoke wheels w/ Hankook K106 rubber, SVT dampers and FRPP 1 1/2 drop springs, Bix RSB retrofit, Eibach anti-roll kit(22mm front/25mm rear), slotted rotors and Hawk HPS pads, XCAL2 by FocusSport.

08-31-2007, 07:08 PM	#8
SVT-SAGE TEAM Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Chicago Posts: 457	Re: Massive Dogbone- Dude this thing is way more solid than the stocker. Not only are the bushings poly but the dogbone is some hardcore steel, and weighs alot more than the aluminum stock piece. __________________ 2003 SVT Focus-Pitch Black#3746 -- SCT XCAL/4-1 SS/ORP/SH UDP/AEM E-Gear/ VOLANT /Ported TB -- Fidanza 12lbs LWF/ Audi A4 SBC Clutch/Steeda STS -- Tein S-Tech's / KYB AGX/ SPC plates/ Steeda 28mm RSB/ Massive Dogbone/ Kazera KZ-V -- WRC Wing/ Rally Headlights/Euro Grille

08-31-2007, 07:30 PM	#9
K STYLEZ Premier Sponsor Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Chi-town, IL Posts: 2,387	Re: Massive Dogbone- Should be around $75. __________________ Never interrupt your opponent while he's making a mistake. www.massivespeedsystem.com -The Midwest's Focus Power Source-

08-31-2007, 07:43 PM	#11
K STYLEZ Premier Sponsor Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Chi-town, IL Posts: 2,387	Re: Massive Dogbone- None of the early cars had steel mounts. We've replaced literally hundreds of them. __________________ Never interrupt your opponent while he's making a mistake. www.massivespeedsystem.com -The Midwest's Focus Power Source-

08-31-2007, 10:16 PM	#13
SVT-SAGE TEAM Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Chicago Posts: 457	Re: Massive Dogbone- Here's another pic for you to analyse. __________________ 2003 SVT Focus-Pitch Black#3746 -- SCT XCAL/4-1 SS/ORP/SH UDP/AEM E-Gear/ VOLANT /Ported TB -- Fidanza 12lbs LWF/ Audi A4 SBC Clutch/Steeda STS -- Tein S-Tech's / KYB AGX/ SPC plates/ Steeda 28mm RSB/ Massive Dogbone/ Kazera KZ-V -- WRC Wing/ Rally Headlights/Euro Grille

09-01-2007, 01:59 AM	#14
Oreo DoubleStuf™ Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Walter banned me! What a joke! LOL Posts: 3,993	Re: Massive Dogbone- My '05 ST came with a steel mount also. Looks identical to the one Massive is selling. I'd like to point out an issue regarding the orientation of the large bushing. In the pic it is installed exactly the way the directions specify in the Energy Suspension bushing package. However, when I performed my own bushing swap I realized that the directions were infact flawed. The bushing needs to be rotated 180 degrees so that the flat spot on the rim of the bushing faces the small end of the mount. This way, the bushing conforms propperly to the frame of the car. __________________ Gun Jet: Check out a great new forum! Click here. Installed: SVT Brakes, ST200 Rims, Koni Sports, -2" Apex springs, poly FLCA & dog-bone bushings, Progress 22mm RSB, TriAx/F STS, Cosworth CAI, Draxas & Trubendz exhaust, XCal2- Now with more ProRacer! On Shelf: T2 ATB, 4.06 fdr, Cosworth IM, Stg 2 Crane cams, Eagle ConRods, 12.5:1cr 88mm Supertech pistons, Fidanza FW, Luk ProGold clutch

09-01-2007, 10:59 AM	#16
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09-01-2007, 11:48 AM	#17
pzev04boy Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Round Lake, IL Posts: 2,597	Re: Massive Dogbone- 00 - 04 Mounts were all aluminum. And they break very easily. We offer a ready to go kit using the steel version. Saves the pain of having to press bushings and is rock solid. __________________ 03 ATX Powerworks sedan 00 Mustang Gt - Built motor 07 Ninja 500R Massive Speed Http://www.massivespeedsystem.com

09-01-2007, 01:47 PM	#19
IslandFocus Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Nassau, Bahamas Posts: 2,302	Re: Massive Dogbone- So this is actually a steel factory mount with upgraded bushings then? __________________ 2000 Focus ZX3: Xios Turbo Kit on Built Motor in Progress!!

10-02-2007, 09:44 AM	#22
NewtzZx3 Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 1,478	Re: Massive Dogbone- no matter what upgraded dogbone you get, if it is stiffer and does its job, you are gonna get the vibration. only cure is more cowbell! j/k, only thing to do is raise the idle like you say __________________ "She turned me into a Newt!"..."A Newt?"..."I got better..." "You might be an engineer if...In college, you thought Spring Break was metal fatigue failure" 2002 Black ZX5 - the mods are pilling up now!

10-04-2007, 10:18 AM	#24
illinipo TEAM Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 190	Re: Massive Dogbone- Now I have a question to you: How do you get a press under the car Of course I used a press to get the bushings in, der... But my original question related to installation on the vehicle. Changing the idle with the xcal doesnt change the idle, now I am very specific about this situation, IN DRIVE OR REVERSE AND AT A STOP. If you are in drive and rolling, THAT is when the xcal makes a diference in idle. But as soon as I stop, the roms drop to some insanely low number (no tach...)