00-04 to 05-07 svt brake kits - Focaljet

**ras50401** · 06-13-2008, 09:21 PM

what is the difference between the 00-04 and the 05-07 svt brake kits beside the couple hundred bucks?

**venomrogue** · 06-14-2008, 08:21 PM

I belive the older kit has the spindles and knuckles, that are required, i think that is the reason for the price difference.

someone more knowledgeable will respond, im sure.

**ras50401** · 06-14-2008, 09:16 PM

will from what i saw it looks like the same kit? i might be wrong just wanted to know the difference.

**venomrogue** · 06-15-2008, 06:43 PM

it is basically the same kit.

but you need the SVT knuckles and spindles, which I think the 05+ already come with (not positive) and that is the main difference.

Everything else, calipers, rotors, pads, etc are the same.

**Egz** · 06-18-2008, 10:49 AM

Correct. The 2005-2007 have SVT-style knuckles, and the brakes bolt right to them. 2000-2004 have incompatible knuckles, and thus have to be replaced so the calipers can bolt on.

**EnixStorm** · 06-23-2008, 06:50 AM

to add-on to the question, does the rear kit come with everything you need to install on the rearend and also hook up to the stock front ones?

**venomrogue** · 06-24-2008, 04:19 PM

yes.

everything but brake fluid.

**K STYLEZ** · 06-25-2008, 03:08 PM

The"big" SVT kit that includes the rears, as Bryan states, does indeed include everything.

**K STYLEZ** · 06-25-2008, 03:10 PM

I'm not really sure about the front stuff being "SVT compatible" but it would appear that way. I haven't acutally tried that new 05-07 front kit yet.

I'm going to check out the situation tomorrow AM first hand. I'll post pics with my findings.

**K STYLEZ** · 06-30-2008, 12:16 PM

Yup. 05-07 spindles ARE SVT caliper compatible. They would not be able to be fitted to an 00-04 car though as the ball joint opening is a different size.

**SVTEuro** · 06-30-2008, 12:24 PM

I am confused I thought Ford stopped making SVTs in 04?? How can there be 05 brake kits...It's not OEM?

**ras50401** · 06-30-2008, 12:28 PM

could you do a convert? to adapt the the larger ball joint and would there be a plus side to doing it.

**K STYLEZ** · 06-30-2008, 04:24 PM

Ford makes the ball joint as one piece. Its riveted on. Ford would tell you that you'd have to replace the entire control arm to do the job, and thats true, but companies like Moog have come out with kits that allow you to drill out the rivets and bolt on a replacement (they are greasable too!!). Unfortunately, these kits are only available for 00-04 cars at this time, so if you had 05 spindles, you'd need to buy 05 control arms from Ford to get the job done. They run about $85 IIRC.

**K STYLEZ** · 06-30-2008, 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SVTEuro

I am confused I thought Ford stopped making SVTs in 04?? How can there be 05 brake kits...It's not OEM?

They did. But the SVT brake kit is easily adaptable to the 05 + spindle.

**SVTEuro** · 06-30-2008, 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by K STYLEZ

They did. But the SVT brake kit is easily adaptable to the 05 + spindle.

thanks

**ras50401** · 06-30-2008, 05:50 PM

humm. i'm pretty impressed. but on a side note is there any actual advantages to upgrading the ball joint.

**K STYLEZ** · 06-30-2008, 08:53 PM

That hasnt really been proven...

I will say that Focus ball joints do tend to go out alot, and replacing them with the Moog I imagine would yield superior performance and greater longevity if they are maintained.

**Stolle** · 07-08-2008, 02:38 PM

i know the SVT knuckle is alot beefer then the non svt 04 and 05 knuckles too. there is alot more metal to the knuckle as a whole which might be better suited for track/autox.

**PCP_TwilightZX3** · 08-03-2008, 07:45 PM

are these on the site cuz i don't see the 05-07 ones

06-13-2008, 09:21 PM	#1
ras50401 TEAM Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Cedar falls, Iowa Posts: 427	00-04 to 05-07 svt brake kits what is the difference between the 00-04 and the 05-07 svt brake kits beside the couple hundred bucks? __________________ 02' Sedan SPI Blood type Qow1"LOOKING FOR SVT" Engine, Focus flo intake msd wires Efp orp Efp atx shift improver soon spi controller. Interior, Gauge cluster with tach. key fob haha. Exterior, Cfm shortie antenna st200 wheels m3 mirrors sedan tail light mod

06-14-2008, 08:21 PM	#2
venomrogue Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 2,874	Re: 00-04 to 05-07 svt brake kits I belive the older kit has the spindles and knuckles, that are required, i think that is the reason for the price difference. someone more knowledgeable will respond, im sure. __________________ Old School: 2002 fully built Powerworks Zetec New Hotness: 2004 JRSC SVT soon to be Powerworks Parts by Karl @ Massive Speed System (www.massivespeedsystem.com) Tuning and porting by Mark @ Skidmark Racing (turbof150.com)

06-14-2008, 09:16 PM	#3
ras50401 TEAM Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Cedar falls, Iowa Posts: 427	Re: 00-04 to 05-07 svt brake kits will from what i saw it looks like the same kit? i might be wrong just wanted to know the difference. __________________ 02' Sedan SPI Blood type Qow1"LOOKING FOR SVT" Engine, Focus flo intake msd wires Efp orp Efp atx shift improver soon spi controller. Interior, Gauge cluster with tach. key fob haha. Exterior, Cfm shortie antenna st200 wheels m3 mirrors sedan tail light mod

06-15-2008, 06:43 PM	#4
venomrogue Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 2,874	Re: 00-04 to 05-07 svt brake kits it is basically the same kit. but you need the SVT knuckles and spindles, which I think the 05+ already come with (not positive) and that is the main difference. Everything else, calipers, rotors, pads, etc are the same. __________________ Old School: 2002 fully built Powerworks Zetec New Hotness: 2004 JRSC SVT soon to be Powerworks Parts by Karl @ Massive Speed System (www.massivespeedsystem.com) Tuning and porting by Mark @ Skidmark Racing (turbof150.com)

06-18-2008, 10:49 AM	#5
Egz Moderator Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Tappahannock, VA Posts: 19,346	Re: 00-04 to 05-07 svt brake kits Correct. The 2005-2007 have SVT-style knuckles, and the brakes bolt right to them. 2000-2004 have incompatible knuckles, and thus have to be replaced so the calipers can bolt on.

06-23-2008, 06:50 AM	#6
EnixStorm Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Jacksonville, N.C. Posts: 1,478	Re: 00-04 to 05-07 svt brake kits to add-on to the question, does the rear kit come with everything you need to install on the rearend and also hook up to the stock front ones? __________________ -2003 SE PZEV ATX - FS 2.3l Stage 2 1/4: 13.78@100mph -2008 Mazda 3S Touring 2.3l w/VVT

06-24-2008, 04:19 PM	#7
venomrogue Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 2,874	Re: 00-04 to 05-07 svt brake kits yes. everything but brake fluid. __________________ Old School: 2002 fully built Powerworks Zetec New Hotness: 2004 JRSC SVT soon to be Powerworks Parts by Karl @ Massive Speed System (www.massivespeedsystem.com) Tuning and porting by Mark @ Skidmark Racing (turbof150.com)

06-25-2008, 03:08 PM	#8
K STYLEZ Premier Sponsor Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Chi-town, IL Posts: 2,318	Re: 00-04 to 05-07 svt brake kits The"big" SVT kit that includes the rears, as Bryan states, does indeed include everything. __________________ Never interrupt your opponent while he's making a mistake. www.massivespeedsystem.com -The Midwest's Focus Power Source-

06-25-2008, 03:10 PM	#9
K STYLEZ Premier Sponsor Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Chi-town, IL Posts: 2,318	Re: 00-04 to 05-07 svt brake kits I'm not really sure about the front stuff being "SVT compatible" but it would appear that way. I haven't acutally tried that new 05-07 front kit yet. I'm going to check out the situation tomorrow AM first hand. I'll post pics with my findings. __________________ Never interrupt your opponent while he's making a mistake. www.massivespeedsystem.com -The Midwest's Focus Power Source-

06-30-2008, 12:16 PM	#10
K STYLEZ Premier Sponsor Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Chi-town, IL Posts: 2,318	Re: 00-04 to 05-07 svt brake kits Yup. 05-07 spindles ARE SVT caliper compatible. They would not be able to be fitted to an 00-04 car though as the ball joint opening is a different size. __________________ Never interrupt your opponent while he's making a mistake. www.massivespeedsystem.com -The Midwest's Focus Power Source-

06-30-2008, 12:24 PM	#11
SVTEuro TEAM Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 159	Re: 00-04 to 05-07 svt brake kits I am confused I thought Ford stopped making SVTs in 04?? How can there be 05 brake kits...It's not OEM? Last edited by K STYLEZ : 06-30-2008 at 04:24 PM.

06-30-2008, 12:28 PM	#12
ras50401 TEAM Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Cedar falls, Iowa Posts: 427	Re: 00-04 to 05-07 svt brake kits could you do a convert? to adapt the the larger ball joint and would there be a plus side to doing it. __________________ 02' Sedan SPI Blood type Qow1"LOOKING FOR SVT" Engine, Focus flo intake msd wires Efp orp Efp atx shift improver soon spi controller. Interior, Gauge cluster with tach. key fob haha. Exterior, Cfm shortie antenna st200 wheels m3 mirrors sedan tail light mod

06-30-2008, 04:24 PM	#13
K STYLEZ Premier Sponsor Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Chi-town, IL Posts: 2,318	Re: 00-04 to 05-07 svt brake kits Ford makes the ball joint as one piece. Its riveted on. Ford would tell you that you'd have to replace the entire control arm to do the job, and thats true, but companies like Moog have come out with kits that allow you to drill out the rivets and bolt on a replacement (they are greasable too!!). Unfortunately, these kits are only available for 00-04 cars at this time, so if you had 05 spindles, you'd need to buy 05 control arms from Ford to get the job done. They run about $85 IIRC. __________________ Never interrupt your opponent while he's making a mistake. www.massivespeedsystem.com -The Midwest's Focus Power Source-

06-30-2008, 05:50 PM	#16
ras50401 TEAM Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Cedar falls, Iowa Posts: 427	Re: 00-04 to 05-07 svt brake kits humm. i'm pretty impressed. but on a side note is there any actual advantages to upgrading the ball joint. __________________ 02' Sedan SPI Blood type Qow1"LOOKING FOR SVT" Engine, Focus flo intake msd wires Efp orp Efp atx shift improver soon spi controller. Interior, Gauge cluster with tach. key fob haha. Exterior, Cfm shortie antenna st200 wheels m3 mirrors sedan tail light mod

06-30-2008, 08:53 PM	#17
K STYLEZ Premier Sponsor Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Chi-town, IL Posts: 2,318	Re: 00-04 to 05-07 svt brake kits That hasnt really been proven... I will say that Focus ball joints do tend to go out alot, and replacing them with the Moog I imagine would yield superior performance and greater longevity if they are maintained. __________________ Never interrupt your opponent while he's making a mistake. www.massivespeedsystem.com -The Midwest's Focus Power Source-

07-08-2008, 02:38 PM	#18
Stolle YOU MODIFY, I CRITICIZE! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Killing Terrorists Posts: 2,009	Re: 00-04 to 05-07 svt brake kits i know the SVT knuckle is alot beefer then the non svt 04 and 05 knuckles too. there is alot more metal to the knuckle as a whole which might be better suited for track/autox. __________________ Parts by MASSIVE, tuning by FocusSport "You must be able to keep track of the course in your head. If you can't, then you can't drive it to its fullest potential" :\|MK1 MotorSports\|: [> MY BAD!

08-03-2008, 07:45 PM	#19
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