msx 90..?? - The Ford Focus Forum

**focusonfocus** · 10-13-2009, 09:35 PM

i got msx90 in orange 5 months ago from you, and i m now having problem misfiring..it was working fine until today..
i thought water got into it but wasn't..
i tried to measure resistance but what resistance should i see??
when i measured it,
#1 800~900 ohms
#2 around 600 ohms
#3 around 400 ohms
#4 around 200 ohms

can you share spec of each wires please??

**focusonfocus** · 10-15-2009, 12:59 PM

bump??

**K STYLEZ** · 10-15-2009, 01:10 PM

Those are correct.

**focusonfocus** · 10-15-2009, 01:13 PM

oh ok..then do you think coil pack might cause the problem misfiring??
when i ordered, it was missing 1 spacer, so i mounted with 3 spacer only..
that might cracked coil pack??

**K STYLEZ** · 10-15-2009, 01:22 PM

Could be. I would take it off and inspect. Also take a look at the plug from the car itself. The plugs and the wiring going to them are prone to failure.

Look at the plugs too. Found a cracked porcelain insulator on one of my cars just yesterday.

Also - did u remove the extra gasket from the coil pack 3 prong plug?

**focusonfocus** · 10-15-2009, 01:35 PM

if it is cracked, is it covered under warranty??
and also the wires??

when i first mentioned about it as soon as i got it, you've told me it is fine to use 3 spacers..

yes i removed extra gasket and used 1 only, i don't remember but i think i removed factory side and used what it came with..

**K STYLEZ** · 10-15-2009, 04:03 PM

Sure, I could get it covered. Wires sound fine though.

I dont recall telling you that, as I have seen that happen before. But you never know. Maybe I forgot my anti-DID (Dissociative Identity Disorder) pills that day. I always seem to get them mixed up with mentos.

**focusonfocus** · 10-15-2009, 07:10 PM

here is post
http://forums.focaljet.com/massive-s...0-gapping.html

and i will take a look at coilpack tomorrow and see if i can find any crack..

if it is coil pack, it is still covered under warranty right?
i m going to order few some more parts too..and you can send me extra spacer and screw right?
i will let you know tomorrow..

**K STYLEZ** · 10-16-2009, 10:10 AM

Well, I did say "for now".

So you should not have run it that way for 5 months. But I can warrant it for you.

**focusonfocus** · 10-16-2009, 09:44 PM

checked it and don't think it is coil pack, i didn't see any crack..
or is there any way i can check for internal??

checked wires, it might be the problem
if there is crack in wires, it shrinks and expands when hot right?
it happens when engine is cold..after warm up, misfire seems to go away..

but i will go ahead and replace new spark plugs and see if it fixes problem..

i will let you know on monday or tuesday..

**focusonfocus** · 10-20-2009, 09:52 PM

hmmm..here is an update..
when it happened, weather was close to..0 celcius..
oct 18th, weather got warmer close to 10 celcius..
and never had this misfiring issue..

but i put new spark in it today because i didn't want go back to dealer to return..
only thing i could notice was a bit smoother idle..
changed from regular motorcraft spark plugs to motorcraft platinum..

i will have to wait until weather gets cold..and will let you know again..

1 last question, should i run something 1 step colder plugs with this setup??

**K STYLEZ** · 10-21-2009, 09:06 AM

With just the swap of the coil pack and wires, stock heat range is fine. If you have a few other mods, 1 step colder could be beneficial.

**focusonfocus** · 10-24-2009, 06:14 PM

it happened again..
it happens when rains hard overnight and misfires the next day..
sounds like i got serious high cam..i have to keep it above 2k rpm but when engine gets normal temp, runs fine..
and this goes away completely and idles normal after 5~7 days..

how do i do this warranty thing??do i pay for shipping?

**focusonfocus** · 10-28-2009, 07:50 PM

umm hello..??

**K STYLEZ** · 10-28-2009, 09:39 PM

Go ahead and ship it back

10-13-2009, 09:35 PM	#1 (permalink)
focusonfocus Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: toronto, on Posts: 4,176	msx 90..?? i got msx90 in orange 5 months ago from you, and i m now having problem misfiring..it was working fine until today.. i thought water got into it but wasn't.. i tried to measure resistance but what resistance should i see?? when i measured it, #1 800~900 ohms #2 around 600 ohms #3 around 400 ohms #4 around 200 ohms can you share spec of each wires please?? __________________ Advanced MECP certified mobile installer 2000 Kona Dirt. www.cardomain.com/id/focusonfocus Last edited by focusonfocus; 10-13-2009 at 09:41 PM.

10-15-2009, 12:59 PM	#2 (permalink)
focusonfocus Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: toronto, on Posts: 4,176	Re: msx 90..?? bump?? __________________ Advanced MECP certified mobile installer 2000 Kona Dirt. www.cardomain.com/id/focusonfocus

10-15-2009, 01:10 PM	#3 (permalink)
K STYLEZ Premier Sponsor Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Chi-town, IL Posts: 2,884	Re: msx 90..?? Those are correct. __________________ Never interrupt your opponent while he's making a mistake. www.massivespeedsystem.com -The Midwest's Focus Power Source-

10-15-2009, 01:13 PM	#4 (permalink)
focusonfocus Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: toronto, on Posts: 4,176	Re: msx 90..?? oh ok..then do you think coil pack might cause the problem misfiring?? when i ordered, it was missing 1 spacer, so i mounted with 3 spacer only.. that might cracked coil pack?? __________________ Advanced MECP certified mobile installer 2000 Kona Dirt. www.cardomain.com/id/focusonfocus

10-15-2009, 01:22 PM	#5 (permalink)
K STYLEZ Premier Sponsor Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Chi-town, IL Posts: 2,884	Re: msx 90..?? Could be. I would take it off and inspect. Also take a look at the plug from the car itself. The plugs and the wiring going to them are prone to failure. Look at the plugs too. Found a cracked porcelain insulator on one of my cars just yesterday. Also - did u remove the extra gasket from the coil pack 3 prong plug? __________________ Never interrupt your opponent while he's making a mistake. www.massivespeedsystem.com -The Midwest's Focus Power Source-

10-15-2009, 01:35 PM	#6 (permalink)
focusonfocus Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: toronto, on Posts: 4,176	Re: msx 90..?? if it is cracked, is it covered under warranty?? and also the wires?? when i first mentioned about it as soon as i got it, you've told me it is fine to use 3 spacers.. yes i removed extra gasket and used 1 only, i don't remember but i think i removed factory side and used what it came with.. __________________ Advanced MECP certified mobile installer 2000 Kona Dirt. www.cardomain.com/id/focusonfocus

10-15-2009, 04:03 PM	#7 (permalink)
K STYLEZ Premier Sponsor Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Chi-town, IL Posts: 2,884	Re: msx 90..?? Sure, I could get it covered. Wires sound fine though. I dont recall telling you that, as I have seen that happen before. But you never know. Maybe I forgot my anti-DID (Dissociative Identity Disorder) pills that day. I always seem to get them mixed up with mentos. __________________ Never interrupt your opponent while he's making a mistake. www.massivespeedsystem.com -The Midwest's Focus Power Source-

10-15-2009, 07:10 PM	#8 (permalink)
focusonfocus Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: toronto, on Posts: 4,176	Re: msx 90..?? here is post http://forums.focaljet.com/massive-s...0-gapping.html and i will take a look at coilpack tomorrow and see if i can find any crack.. if it is coil pack, it is still covered under warranty right? i m going to order few some more parts too..and you can send me extra spacer and screw right? i will let you know tomorrow.. __________________ Advanced MECP certified mobile installer 2000 Kona Dirt. www.cardomain.com/id/focusonfocus

10-16-2009, 10:10 AM	#9 (permalink)
K STYLEZ Premier Sponsor Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Chi-town, IL Posts: 2,884	Re: msx 90..?? Well, I did say "for now". So you should not have run it that way for 5 months. But I can warrant it for you. __________________ Never interrupt your opponent while he's making a mistake. www.massivespeedsystem.com -The Midwest's Focus Power Source-

10-16-2009, 09:44 PM	#10 (permalink)
focusonfocus Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: toronto, on Posts: 4,176	Re: msx 90..?? checked it and don't think it is coil pack, i didn't see any crack.. or is there any way i can check for internal?? checked wires, it might be the problem if there is crack in wires, it shrinks and expands when hot right? it happens when engine is cold..after warm up, misfire seems to go away.. but i will go ahead and replace new spark plugs and see if it fixes problem.. i will let you know on monday or tuesday.. __________________ Advanced MECP certified mobile installer 2000 Kona Dirt. www.cardomain.com/id/focusonfocus Last edited by focusonfocus; 10-16-2009 at 09:52 PM.

10-20-2009, 09:52 PM	#11 (permalink)
focusonfocus Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: toronto, on Posts: 4,176	Re: msx 90..?? hmmm..here is an update.. when it happened, weather was close to..0 celcius.. oct 18th, weather got warmer close to 10 celcius.. and never had this misfiring issue.. but i put new spark in it today because i didn't want go back to dealer to return.. only thing i could notice was a bit smoother idle.. changed from regular motorcraft spark plugs to motorcraft platinum.. i will have to wait until weather gets cold..and will let you know again.. 1 last question, should i run something 1 step colder plugs with this setup?? __________________ Advanced MECP certified mobile installer 2000 Kona Dirt. www.cardomain.com/id/focusonfocus

10-21-2009, 09:06 AM	#12 (permalink)
K STYLEZ Premier Sponsor Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Chi-town, IL Posts: 2,884	Re: msx 90..?? With just the swap of the coil pack and wires, stock heat range is fine. If you have a few other mods, 1 step colder could be beneficial. __________________ Never interrupt your opponent while he's making a mistake. www.massivespeedsystem.com -The Midwest's Focus Power Source-

10-24-2009, 06:14 PM	#13 (permalink)
focusonfocus Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: toronto, on Posts: 4,176	Re: msx 90..?? it happened again.. it happens when rains hard overnight and misfires the next day.. sounds like i got serious high cam..i have to keep it above 2k rpm but when engine gets normal temp, runs fine.. and this goes away completely and idles normal after 5~7 days.. how do i do this warranty thing??do i pay for shipping? __________________ Advanced MECP certified mobile installer 2000 Kona Dirt. www.cardomain.com/id/focusonfocus Last edited by focusonfocus; 10-24-2009 at 10:21 PM.

10-28-2009, 07:50 PM	#14 (permalink)
focusonfocus Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: toronto, on Posts: 4,176	Re: msx 90..?? umm hello..?? __________________ Advanced MECP certified mobile installer 2000 Kona Dirt. www.cardomain.com/id/focusonfocus

10-28-2009, 09:39 PM	#15 (permalink)
K STYLEZ Premier Sponsor Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Chi-town, IL Posts: 2,884	Re: msx 90..?? Go ahead and ship it back __________________ Never interrupt your opponent while he's making a mistake. www.massivespeedsystem.com -The Midwest's Focus Power Source-

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