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    Exclamation car wont start? click here! (troubleshooting guide)

    Won't turn over, won't click, won't anything:

    Is there power to the accessories?
    NO - power distribution problem. Verify battery is good and power is making it to the central junction box and fuse box.
    YES – continue

    Is the PATS light flashing rapidly?
    NO – continue
    YES – PATS problem. Key is corrupt or not programmed, reciever is damaged or disconnected. ECU is damaged.

    Is the Clutch in? (if equipped)
    NO – depress clutch pedal all the way
    YES – verify that the clutch switch is working properly by measuring resistance across the 2 wires when the clutch is depressed, should be 0 ohms, then continue.

    Is the transmission in Park or Neutral? (if equipped)
    NO – Move selector switch to Park or neutral.
    YES – verify that the lever is actually moving the selector switch on the transmission to park or neutral, measure the resistance of the safety switch when in park or neutral, should be 0 ohms. then continue.

    Do you have an alarm or lockout?
    NO - continue
    YES – verify that the alarm is disabled and the lockout is working properly.

    Is the grey wire near the coil pack connected?
    NO - connect
    YES – continue

    Is your engine ground less than 100 ohms?
    NO – add a ground wire from a lift point to the chasis or batt-.
    YES – continue

    Is there power to the starter?
    NO – repair broken wire or terminal.
    YES – continue.

    Is the starter grounded?
    NO - repair engine to chasis ground wire.
    YES - continue.

    Is there 12v on the key terminal when the key is in the "start" position?
    NO - check operation of the ignition switch, ignition relay, and fuse.
    YES - bad starter.


    Clicks, won't turn over or start:

    Are the battery terminals connected securely and corrosion free?
    NO – clean and secure the terminals
    YES – continue

    Will the car jump start?
    NO - continue
    YES – bad battery or charging circuit.

    Is your engine ground less than 100 ohms?
    NO – add a ground wire from a lift point to the chasis or batt-.
    YES – continue

    Will the rotating assembly turn freely?
    NO – engine is jammed or seized
    YES – continue

    Is the starter seated correctly?
    NO – seat properly and tighten bolts.
    YES – continue

    Does the starter motor turn when power is applied and load removed?
    NO – bad starter
    YES – have starter bench tested.


    Cranks, turns over, but won't start or run:

    Is there gas in the car?
    NO – buy gas
    YES – continue

    Are the spark plugs firing?
    NO – no signal from crank angle sensor or faulty coil pack/coil harness.
    YES – continue

    Can you hear the fuel pump whir for 2 seconds when the key is set to “on”?
    NO – look under the passenger side kick panel and verify that inertia switch is not tripped and is working correctly. Fuel pump problem if switch is ok.
    YES – use a fuel pressure gauge to verify that you are receiving adequate fuel pressure during cranking. Continue if ok

    With the oil cap off and a friend trying to start the car, can you see the cams spinning while the engine cranks?
    NO - Possibly a bad timing belt. Pull the timing gear cover off to check the belt and watch the cam gears. Replace belt if bad.
    YES - continue

    Are the injectors firing?
    NO – damaged ECU or no signal from camshaft position sensor. (could be a broken timing belt)
    YES – continue

    Is there adequate compression in all cylinders?
    NO – broken timing belt, head gasket leak, or damaged valvetrain componant.
    YES – continue

    Is there a blockage in the air intake?
    NO – verify engine timing, have ECU tested.
    YES – remove blockage
    Last edited by TXFO; Apr 23, 2006 at 1:29 PM.

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    Default Re: car wont start? click here! (troubleshooting guide)

    special thanks to Ax0n for his contributions to this guide.

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    Default Re: car wont start? click here! (troubleshooting guide)

    Added timing belt check. I can't believe we missed that in this write-up!

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    Default Re: car wont start? click here! (troubleshooting guide)

    oh yeah. duh.

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    Default Re: car wont start? click here! (troubleshooting guide)

    Timing belt is mentioned. I went to fix it and found it under the compression y/n.

    yay, we're not dumb.

    oh wait, I see you edited the post. I guess we ARE dumb.

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    Default Re: car wont start? click here! (troubleshooting guide)

    I'm having the "clicks, won't turn over, won't start" thing going on. I popped the hood and checked the terminals... those were good.

    Here's an easy question: where can I find the starter / starter motor? (Pics would be awesome if anyone has 'em)

    edit: I have a 2004 D23e
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    Default Re: car wont start? click here! (troubleshooting guide)

    I too am having the same problem. It clicks but it won't turn over at all... Ran through the steps and don't know where the starter on our cars are located. It should be behind the flywheel under the car, but cannot find it.

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    Default Re: car wont start? click here! (troubleshooting guide)

    Quote Originally Posted by Tailhooker
    I'm having the "clicks, won't turn over, won't start" thing going on. I popped the hood and checked the terminals... those were good.

    Here's an easy question: where can I find the starter / starter motor? (Pics would be awesome if anyone has 'em)

    edit: I have a 2004 D23e
    Have you checked the battery? If you haven't its most likely a dead battery.
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    Default Re: car wont start? click here! (troubleshooting guide)

    Quote Originally Posted by SilverZXIII
    Have you checked the battery? If you haven't its most likely a dead battery.
    Thats what I was thinking, but when I first had this happen (a few days ago) it clicked for a while and then cranked hard and turned right over. Does that make a difference?

    Also, should I be able to push-start it?
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    Question Re: car wont start? click here! (troubleshooting guide)

    I have a 2004 ZX3-DURATEC 2.3lt with 7,500 miles, and having the exact same symptoms with my car.-

    I just replaced the starter and celenoid, replaced the battery terminals, replaced the baterry....and still..click..click...no start!!! ... if push start the car, it works.

    ...any one has any ideas on what might be? any info will be apreciated, thank you.

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    Default Re: car wont start? click here! (troubleshooting guide)

    I got one for ya.....I have a 01 focus zx3 with the roush turbo kit. I pulled my car in the car port to put on my lambo's and went to start my car and it just clicked like my battery was dead so I used our charger on the jump start function started up and my plugs fouled and got some nice grey smoke outta the tail pipe. Watcha got for this?
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    Unhappy Re: car wont start? click here! (troubleshooting guide)

    HELP!!!!! I think I blew the fuse for the ignition.
    Where is it located?
    My car is big in Europe.

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    Thumbs up Re: car wont start? click here! (troubleshooting guide)

    Never mind, found it. I'm just an idiot.
    My car is big in Europe.

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    Default Re: car wont start? click here! (troubleshooting guide)

    Okay you Car Guru's please help...

    I have a Ford Focus Zx2 and today when I tried to start it. When I turn the key it starts just fine but then it starts stuttering and dies on me with the following lights: battery and alternator..

    Well, I checked the battery to make sure there wasnt any corrosion on the battery itself (We just replaced the battery on a different occurance anyways) and if its the alternator it just wouldnt start right?

    Just recently a friend and I had to change a hose that was going from the air filter because the old one had a hole in it and I checked that and it was still tight on the hose and felt no holes.

    When, I give it gas when it starts it stays alive for a few more minutes before spuddering and dying on me...

    Thanks

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    Default Re: car wont start? click here! (troubleshooting guide)

    Hey guys I need some help...I installed a new optima battery about a week and a half or 2 weeks ago. 2 nights ago I went out to my car to leave a friends house and I went to start it and nothing no click nothing. Battery has juice. Tested ign. relay and replaced the blown fuse in auxilary block underhood. 30 amp maxi with a square and a key in it. What is this fuse? Does anybody know? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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