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    Default anybody removed a stuck axle nut?

    i've taken several off, but this one is tight. im gonna replace the outter cv boot, but can't take the axle nut off. i used my breaker bar and it snapped after i used a 5ft cheater pipe on it. even tried the impact wrench and nothing. anybody used a slip (quick) cv boot and how long it lasts? i got a one piece but i think the nut is not gonna come off
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    Default Re: anybody removed a stuck axle nut?

    be careful i stripped my threadson my axle. is it possible to cut your old nut off and replace with a new one.

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    Default Re: anybody removed a stuck axle nut?

    do these cars have staked axle nuts? if they do you need to unstake it before you try to remove it. you will strip your axle threads just like 2svt said. There will be a notch in your axle and the axle nut will be indented into that notch. you need to shape it back out of the notch before you try to remove it ( I hope this makes sense) I usually get mine off with an impact gun.

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    Default Re: anybody removed a stuck axle nut?

    Use the blue wrench man.

    Seriously, well... that usually works, but since there's a bearing in there too... I dunno. You might not have a choice but to make a big mess, decide which parts you want to save and sacrifice the rest. If you've already broken a breaker bar... There's not much more you can do.

    Only other thing I could think go to a truck or tractor repair place, and see if they can use one of their huge impact guns on it, then put it back on lightly.
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    Default Re: anybody removed a stuck axle nut?

    those nuts are factory torqued to over 200ft lbs... and sadly enough... need to be that tight to keep the wheel bearing in check...

    your best bet is to soak it down with a GOOD penetrating oil for a few days... if that doesnt work... you might need to heat it up with a torch (just the nut) and make sure not to focus too much heat on the shaft or bearing area.... then get out a larger breaker bar...

    9/10 times... most impacts wont take them loose... when i do mine... i have a 3/4" dr. 4' breaker bar and it still takes quite a bit to break them loose...

    btw... you will need to purchase new nuts from the dealer... esp. considering how much trouble these are gonna be to get off....

    and no... its a single nut... if you "unstack" it... you destroy it...

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    Default Re: anybody removed a stuck axle nut?

    unstake it not unstack it. apparantly you dont know what im talking about. I should take a picture but I probably wont. yeah, you will need a new nut if it is the staked kind. my impact is just a 1/2" drive and hasnt met an axle nut that it couldnt take off yet. if you need a 3/4" to take off 200 Ft/lb nut then you need to get a new 1/2". get one with some balls

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    Default Re: anybody removed a stuck axle nut?

    problem is... that is an original torque number... so... a nut thats been at 200+ ft. lb's for 50k+ miles can be interesting to get off... esp. this specific nuts locking design... but anyways

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    Default Re: anybody removed a stuck axle nut?

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    unstake it not unstack it. apparantly you dont know what im talking about. I should take a picture but I probably wont. yeah, you will need a new nut if it is the staked kind. my impact is just a 1/2" drive and hasnt met an axle nut that it couldnt take off yet. if you need a 3/4" to take off 200 Ft/lb nut then you need to get a new 1/2". get one with some balls
    They aren't staked. I've also never had any trouble removing them.

    A "good" breaker bar with an extension should do it every time. Leverage and decent tools will do it every time.
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    Default Re: anybody removed a stuck axle nut?

    i've removed several before. even took the ones from the 86 monte and none were that stuck. car is a 98 tracer with about 100K miles on it, for a small car its on pretty tight.



    i bought a split type cv boot today and thats what im putting on. the axle is fine, but should last as long as the boot. BTW, im taking it to get an alignment done to it
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    Default Re: anybody removed a stuck axle nut?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jlongoria9
    i've removed several before. even took the ones from the 86 monte and none were that stuck. car is a 98 tracer with about 100K miles on it, for a small car its on pretty tight.



    i bought a split type cv boot today and thats what im putting on. the axle is fine, but should last as long as the boot. BTW, im taking it to get an alignment done to it
    If that is the nut you're trying to remove..then it's 'staked'....see the dent in the top on the outer ring...similar to what used to be a true 'staked' nut. They bend that in to the groove on the shaft to stop the nut from coming undone. You'll need to get that 'dent' out before you'll move the nut dude.
    goldse - I was about to say.... that looks like a big crack !
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    Default Re: anybody removed a stuck axle nut?

    You might step up to a 3/4" breaker bar.

    ...but I'd replace the axle, because those threads are going to lose that battle.
    I have too many cars.

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    Default Re: anybody removed a stuck axle nut?

    With care, he should be able to get the stake up without really touching the threads. Just be using a thin cold chisel or similar, it's possible. Just keep it in the groove.
    goldse - I was about to say.... that looks like a big crack !
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    Default Re: anybody removed a stuck axle nut?

    Like someone else above said, Focus original nut is laminated or "stacked" from several pieces, it becomes self locking from that and does not need staking. Also, the axle has no notch to stake at. Staking used on Ford cars through the late eighties and early nineties. Laminated type can be used more than once unless you got trouble like this guy. When he gets it off, he will need new nut. Maybe it's rusted on. I've always worried about that but never ran into it. They always came off with a cheater bar.
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    Default Re: anybody removed a stuck axle nut?

    we'll see how the split type boot works. if it fails (which judging by the looks of it, it will) i will take a cut off wheel to the nut and replace the whole axle
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    Default Re: anybody removed a stuck axle nut?

    The picture posted above is exactly what I was talking about. you need to use a chisel or centering punch and hammer. you can get that crease (stake) out so you dont damage your axle threads. I dont think this design is outdated, Toyota still does this one a lot of their 09' models. You will need a new nut. when its time to put it on torque it to spec and make sure you re-stake it. use a chisel and hammer to punch it back into the groove on the axle. If you do buy a reman axle it should come with the nut. good luck which ever way you go!


 
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