Ok Heres the deal - Focaljet

**mattm2001** · 07-27-2008, 01:18 PM

My plan for my rally car is im going to buy a focus from a junkyard. Then im going to strip it to a bare shell and do some seam welding and build the cage myself. Im need to know what kind of Wall thickness, inside and outside diameter to use so i can buy a tubing bender. Also how would I go about getting a logbook for the car after i install the cage so i dont have to upgrade the cage later??

**Silonius** · 07-29-2008, 01:06 PM

I think the tubing thickness specs are in the regulation handbook. If you don't already, I would download the Rally Spec Focus one and the general NASA rally one which goes more in depth for cage building.

I'm not sure how to get a logbook, but I think they give you one at your first rally.

**Plan B Racing** · 07-29-2008, 02:42 PM

You would do better to buy a ready built car. I know you are worried about expenses but a welder, bender, dies, and building an entire to car to spec is going to cost you all of the cost of buying a used car and then some. The guy selling the prepped focus is got a great deal going on. You can't build a car cheaper than what his is listed at. Maybe you should try renting a rally car instead of buying.

**BigSandwich** · 07-29-2008, 02:43 PM

The log book procedure is outlined in the full NASA Rules, usually referred to as GRRs. You need to talk with an inspector about how close to a complete the car needs to be to get a log book. I am not an inspector but I think you could get a log book if you had done the following:

- Cage
- Paint for cage
- Seat mounts
- Seats
- Harness mounts, and Harnesses
- Proper FIA or SFI padding on the roll cage

**jsundelin** · 07-31-2008, 01:35 AM

How much welding experience do you have? Welding a cage is not really the best starter project that I can think of.

--
John

**mattm2001** · 07-31-2008, 08:14 AM

Ive been welding and fabricating stuff since i was 12 so almost 6 years. Almost everything on my focus is stuff i made.

07-27-2008, 01:18 PM	#1
mattm2001 TEAM Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 159	Ok Heres the deal My plan for my rally car is im going to buy a focus from a junkyard. Then im going to strip it to a bare shell and do some seam welding and build the cage myself. Im need to know what kind of Wall thickness, inside and outside diameter to use so i can buy a tubing bender. Also how would I go about getting a logbook for the car after i install the cage so i dont have to upgrade the cage later?? __________________ R.I.P Colin Mcrae. You were, and always will be the best rally driver. 1968-2007

07-29-2008, 01:06 PM	#2
Silonius TEAM Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Clemson, SC Posts: 705	Re: Ok Heres the deal I think the tubing thickness specs are in the regulation handbook. If you don't already, I would download the Rally Spec Focus one and the general NASA rally one which goes more in depth for cage building. I'm not sure how to get a logbook, but I think they give you one at your first rally. __________________ 2004 Black ZX3 Zetec Spax adjustable struts, BAT springs,Ford Racing short shifter, Falken RT 615 205/50/15 Underdrive pulley and shorty header, H&R 5mm spacers and hardened lugs, Hawk HP+ front pads, SPC camber plates Up next short term: Rally brake kit Up next long term: cage and Rally Spec Focus!

07-29-2008, 02:42 PM	#3
Plan B Racing TEAM Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Ridgecrest Ca. Posts: 341	Re: Ok Heres the deal You would do better to buy a ready built car. I know you are worried about expenses but a welder, bender, dies, and building an entire to car to spec is going to cost you all of the cost of buying a used car and then some. The guy selling the prepped focus is got a great deal going on. You can't build a car cheaper than what his is listed at. Maybe you should try renting a rally car instead of buying. __________________ 1994 Mitsubishi Diamante Wagon 5spd Turbo Monster 1989 Mazada 323 GTX Rally Car 2002 Ford Focus SVT Rally Car

07-29-2008, 02:43 PM	#4
BigSandwich Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 1,143	Re: Ok Heres the deal The log book procedure is outlined in the full NASA Rules, usually referred to as GRRs. You need to talk with an inspector about how close to a complete the car needs to be to get a log book. I am not an inspector but I think you could get a log book if you had done the following: - Cage - Paint for cage - Seat mounts - Seats - Harness mounts, and Harnesses - Proper FIA or SFI padding on the roll cage __________________ 2001 ZX3 Spec Rally Car - Build Thread 1990 Audi 90 1985 Mazda RX-7 GSL-SE

07-31-2008, 01:35 AM	#5
jsundelin TEAM Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 105	Re: Ok Heres the deal How much welding experience do you have? Welding a cage is not really the best starter project that I can think of. -- John __________________ Desert Storm Rally '01 ZX3

07-31-2008, 08:14 AM	#6
mattm2001 TEAM Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 159	Re: Ok Heres the deal Ive been welding and fabricating stuff since i was 12 so almost 6 years. Almost everything on my focus is stuff i made. __________________ R.I.P Colin Mcrae. You were, and always will be the best rally driver. 1968-2007

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