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**natedog_1959** · 06-06-2007, 02:16 PM

Ted7rns, if you are referring to me as the upset party, I purchased my from Tousley Ford. I believe they are a FRPP dealer. Otherwise, disregard this post. Nate

**Ted7rns** · 06-06-2007, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by natedog_1959

I am just upset that Ford tried to brush this issue under the rug for a year while they were still selling the kits.

I don't know if that is true or not. We are talking Extremes here because of the racing use.

**Ted7rns** · 06-06-2007, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by natedog_1959

Ted7rns, if you are referring to me as the upset party, I purchased my from Tousley Ford. I believe they are a FRPP dealer. Otherwise, disregard this post. Nate

I must have you confused with someone else then. Sorry about that.

**brads03zx3** · 06-06-2007, 02:32 PM

Nate, you need to relax. You have absolutely no idea what data Ford had. There is typically 1-2% manufacture error (with good manufacturers) in all distributed goods, no matter who they are. Do you know how many multimatic kits were sold? Do you know how many shocks developed leaks? This is not an OEM part, so don't expect a huge recall. If your shocks develop a leak, I have no doubt an FRPP dealer will find a replacement for you if you meet the warranty requirements. This is an excellent kit, extremely affordable, and has been beaten to death in a racing environment by the Spec guys with very few issues. And it looks pretty good if I may say so myself.

**natedog_1959** · 06-06-2007, 03:45 PM

I agree with you on all counts except the relax part. I have yet to get irrate or anything even close to it. I fully understand the race vs street application involved in this product and accepted that when I purchased it. Having said that, one would think a race product would be considerably more free of defects than a street product. I would bet Ford has not sold very many of these kits so the percentage that leak is probably pretty high. I look forward to some hard numbers from Ford but I doubt we will every be privy to that data. Nate

**gobstopper** · 06-06-2007, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Ted7rns

I don't know if that is true or not. We are talking Extremes here because of the racing use.

No, we're not. My car is 100% daily driver.

Am I out in the cold because I didn't buy direct from an FRPP source?

**Ted7rns** · 06-06-2007, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by gobstopper

No, we're not. My car is 100% daily driver.

Am I out in the cold because I didn't buy direct from an FRPP source?

Call FRPP Tech-support line, They might be able to help you.

**brads03zx3** · 06-06-2007, 04:06 PM

point made...carry on

**gobstopper** · 06-06-2007, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Ted7rns

Call FRPP Tech-support line, They might be able to help you.

Nope.

FordTech: "I'm sorry, but you're up the proverbial creek without a paddle."

**Ted7rns** · 06-06-2007, 05:09 PM

Listen, this is the Spec Focus Forum. It’s for information about the Series. If you have a beef with FRPP for an item that is being used for something other then Spec Focus Race Car, Please take it up with them.

There no need to whine on this section about a part that's not on a Spec Focus.

Whining about SF parts is okay.

somewhat.

**natedog_1959** · 06-06-2007, 07:27 PM

Then I guess this thread should be linked to the Suspension Area so those FJer's that don't frequent the SF section can be informed and do with it as they please.

brads03zx3, First, I will remove my bantering from CFM's thread. I should not have butted in on CFM's attempt to rid themselves of a possibly defective suspension system. Second, I don't really give a damn if Ford created the kit. It doesn't absolve them from any liability if someone gets hurt. The kit has SHM springs and to the best of my knowledge, Multimatic shocks/struts. Since Ford works very closely with Multimatic on just about everything they make, I'm sure Ford had a hand in this at some point. We can argue about this all day but I have said my piece and will move on from here.

Ted7rns, sorry about hosing up your thread. Good luck finding a replacement setup. Nate

**Ted7rns** · 06-06-2007, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by natedog_1959

Then I guess this thread should be linked to the Suspension Area so those FJer's that don't frequent the SF section can be informed and do with it as they please.

Ted7rns, sorry about hosing up your thread. Good luck finding a replacement setup. Nate

No Problem, you're free to post in the Suspension area if you want too.

**recar** · 06-08-2007, 08:21 AM

Ted, I purchased the Eibach pro system plus kit for my Spec build. Are you aware that the individual kit part #'s have been updated? The parts no longer carry the exact part #'s (dampners) that are listed in the rules. Will this be an issue?

**Ted7rns** · 06-08-2007, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by recar

Ted, I purchased the Eibach pro system plus kit for my Spec build. Are you aware that the individual kit part #'s have been updated? The parts no longer carry the exact part #'s (dampners) that are listed in the rules. Will this be an issue?

You'll be good.

**JimmySolo2** · 06-14-2007, 10:49 PM

I'm all for the Koni Yellow's being legal, since I already have them on the car. I don't have the Eibach Race Springs but it seems to make a nice, not too expensive combo.

**Ted7rns** · 06-15-2007, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by JimmySolo2

I'm all for the Koni Yellow's being legal, since I already have them on the car. I don't have the Eibach Race Springs but it seems to make a nice, not too expensive combo.

We just tested this combo last weekend. We're testing a different setup next month as well.

**JimmySolo2** · 06-19-2007, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Ted7rns

We just tested this combo last weekend. We're testing a different setup next month as well.

Cool. I know TrueChoice [they have a kiosk at Mid Ohio] offers a suspension for under $3000.00. Lol.

**jinstall** · 06-28-2007, 03:45 PM

How about the new aluminum dampeners from H&R? Yvonne the Export Manager in Germany is the contact.

**rallyrs** · 07-07-2007, 03:28 PM

Quick question for Ted or Leo if I may-

Is the dynamic suspension still going to be spec Focus legal(and still competitive!) in the future -as far as you know?

I bought the Dynamic suspension(destined for my DD),and still have it sitting new in the box.

But I may-just may -be able to budget a spec Focus build pretty soon.
If I can-I'll buy another Focus(zetec) for that build and build my current DD(Duratec) with a more autocross friendly suspension,(I've been leaning more torwards a 2" drop on the DD anyway).

So in a nutshell-should I sell the dynamic kit now, or retain it for a possible spec build?

Thanks for any facts and/or opinions here!

**Ted7rns** · 07-07-2007, 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rallyrs

Quick question for Ted or Leo if I may-

Is the dynamic suspension still going to be spec Focus legal(and still competitive!) in the future -as far as you know?

I bought the Dynamic suspension(destined for my DD),and still have it sitting new in the box.

But I may-just may -be able to budget a spec Focus build pretty soon.
If I can-I'll buy another Focus(zetec) for that build and build my current DD(Duratec) with a more autocross friendly suspension,(I've been leaning more torwards a 2" drop on the DD anyway).

So in a nutshell-should I sell the dynamic kit now, or retain it for a possible spec build?

Thanks for any facts and/or opinions here!

Yes, No matter what change we make if it's the FRPP replacement kit for the Multimatic or a different kit.... The Dynamics will be allowed.

**68 Touring Car** · 07-08-2007, 06:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rallyrs

Quick question for Ted or Leo if I may-

Is the dynamic suspension still going to be spec Focus legal(and still competitive!) in the future -as far as you know?

I bought the Dynamic suspension(destined for my DD),and still have it sitting new in the box.

But I may-just may -be able to budget a spec Focus build pretty soon.
If I can-I'll buy another Focus(zetec) for that build and build my current DD(Duratec) with a more autocross friendly suspension,(I've been leaning more torwards a 2" drop on the DD anyway).

So in a nutshell-should I sell the dynamic kit now, or retain it for a possible spec build?

Thanks for any facts and/or opinions here!

The Multimatic Kit will be available very shortly.

**natedog_1959** · 07-09-2007, 09:11 AM

So they are going to start producing it again? Nate

**68 Touring Car** · 07-09-2007, 06:06 PM

They should be available shortly.

**f2focus** · 07-09-2007, 11:40 PM

Yes with different rear struts because those are the ones that leaked....

06-06-2007, 02:16 PM	#26
natedog_1959 Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 1,286	Re: Dynamic Suspension Discontinued Ted7rns, if you are referring to me as the upset party, I purchased my from Tousley Ford. I believe they are a FRPP dealer. Otherwise, disregard this post. Nate __________________ 2004 SVT Focus Black w/ red inserts, HID's, Audiophile. Show: Euro Upper Grille, Tinted Corners, 5% tint on rear three windows, Black EAP Wheels w/ black lug nuts. Go: Steeda STS, SRI, STB, 2 Mounts, MSD Coil/Wires, Side Gapped Cu Plugs, SS Brake Lines, F2 Rear Sway, SRF Throttle Body, ORP, Borla Exhaust, Grounding Kit, SVT Salvage battery box and Odyssey battery, COSDEVSVT Harness Bar, Corbeau Harness, 215/45/17 Dunlop Z1's, Multimatic/KYB suspension, P-51 shims, Centric rotors/Hawk HPS pads.

06-06-2007, 02:32 PM	#29
brads03zx3 [FJ] Specialist Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: California Posts: 9,069	Re: Dynamic Suspension Discontinued Nate, you need to relax. You have absolutely no idea what data Ford had. There is typically 1-2% manufacture error (with good manufacturers) in all distributed goods, no matter who they are. Do you know how many multimatic kits were sold? Do you know how many shocks developed leaks? This is not an OEM part, so don't expect a huge recall. If your shocks develop a leak, I have no doubt an FRPP dealer will find a replacement for you if you meet the warranty requirements. This is an excellent kit, extremely affordable, and has been beaten to death in a racing environment by the Spec guys with very few issues. And it looks pretty good if I may say so myself. __________________ Mountain Tested----'03 zetec DuraMonster---'03 duratec ZX3 vs MNTN - 9/0 & ZX3 vs TRACK - 4/1 *JCM Racing #88* Bouncing Back---Bigger, Faster, Stronger Vacuum Vulture Racing - We put the ARG in 'CHARGED

06-06-2007, 03:45 PM	#30
natedog_1959 Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 1,286	Re: Dynamic Suspension Discontinued I agree with you on all counts except the relax part. I have yet to get irrate or anything even close to it. I fully understand the race vs street application involved in this product and accepted that when I purchased it. Having said that, one would think a race product would be considerably more free of defects than a street product. I would bet Ford has not sold very many of these kits so the percentage that leak is probably pretty high. I look forward to some hard numbers from Ford but I doubt we will every be privy to that data. Nate __________________ 2004 SVT Focus Black w/ red inserts, HID's, Audiophile. Show: Euro Upper Grille, Tinted Corners, 5% tint on rear three windows, Black EAP Wheels w/ black lug nuts. Go: Steeda STS, SRI, STB, 2 Mounts, MSD Coil/Wires, Side Gapped Cu Plugs, SS Brake Lines, F2 Rear Sway, SRF Throttle Body, ORP, Borla Exhaust, Grounding Kit, SVT Salvage battery box and Odyssey battery, COSDEVSVT Harness Bar, Corbeau Harness, 215/45/17 Dunlop Z1's, Multimatic/KYB suspension, P-51 shims, Centric rotors/Hawk HPS pads.

06-06-2007, 04:06 PM	#33
brads03zx3 [FJ] Specialist Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: California Posts: 9,069	Re: Dynamic Suspension Discontinued point made...carry on __________________ Mountain Tested----'03 zetec DuraMonster---'03 duratec ZX3 vs MNTN - 9/0 & ZX3 vs TRACK - 4/1 *JCM Racing #88* Bouncing Back---Bigger, Faster, Stronger Vacuum Vulture Racing - We put the ARG in 'CHARGED Last edited by brads03zx3 : 06-07-2007 at 03:11 AM.

06-06-2007, 05:09 PM	#35
Ted7rns Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Thousand Oaks, California Posts: 4,202	Re: Dynamic Suspension Discontinued Listen, this is the Spec Focus Forum. It’s for information about the Series. If you have a beef with FRPP for an item that is being used for something other then Spec Focus Race Car, Please take it up with them. There no need to whine on this section about a part that's not on a Spec Focus. Whining about SF parts is okay. somewhat. __________________ NASA Spec Focus Series Director \| NASA HPDE Instructor 2002 Ford Focus ZX3 Malibu Blue <23> NASA is dedicated to aspiring or accomplished Focus racers and track enthusiast.

06-06-2007, 07:27 PM	#36
natedog_1959 Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 1,286	Re: Dynamic Suspension Discontinued Then I guess this thread should be linked to the Suspension Area so those FJer's that don't frequent the SF section can be informed and do with it as they please. brads03zx3, First, I will remove my bantering from CFM's thread. I should not have butted in on CFM's attempt to rid themselves of a possibly defective suspension system. Second, I don't really give a damn if Ford created the kit. It doesn't absolve them from any liability if someone gets hurt. The kit has SHM springs and to the best of my knowledge, Multimatic shocks/struts. Since Ford works very closely with Multimatic on just about everything they make, I'm sure Ford had a hand in this at some point. We can argue about this all day but I have said my piece and will move on from here. Ted7rns, sorry about hosing up your thread. Good luck finding a replacement setup. Nate __________________ 2004 SVT Focus Black w/ red inserts, HID's, Audiophile. Show: Euro Upper Grille, Tinted Corners, 5% tint on rear three windows, Black EAP Wheels w/ black lug nuts. Go: Steeda STS, SRI, STB, 2 Mounts, MSD Coil/Wires, Side Gapped Cu Plugs, SS Brake Lines, F2 Rear Sway, SRF Throttle Body, ORP, Borla Exhaust, Grounding Kit, SVT Salvage battery box and Odyssey battery, COSDEVSVT Harness Bar, Corbeau Harness, 215/45/17 Dunlop Z1's, Multimatic/KYB suspension, P-51 shims, Centric rotors/Hawk HPS pads.

06-08-2007, 08:21 AM	#38
recar Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New York Posts: 1,476	Re: Dynamic Suspension Discontinued Ted, I purchased the Eibach pro system plus kit for my Spec build. Are you aware that the individual kit part #'s have been updated? The parts no longer carry the exact part #'s (dampners) that are listed in the rules. Will this be an issue?

06-14-2007, 10:49 PM	#40
JimmySolo2 Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Ross Twp[ N. Pittsburgh] Posts: 2,355	Re: Dynamic Suspension Discontinued I'm all for the Koni Yellow's being legal, since I already have them on the car. I don't have the Eibach Race Springs but it seems to make a nice, not too expensive combo. __________________ Who is John Galt?

06-28-2007, 03:45 PM	#43
jinstall [FJ] Addict Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Manassas/Ft Belvoir VA Posts: 12,983	Re: Dynamic Suspension Discontinued How about the new aluminum dampeners from H&R? Yvonne the Export Manager in Germany is the contact.

07-07-2007, 03:28 PM	#44
rallyrs TEAM Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Simi Valley, California Posts: 291	Re: Dynamic Suspension Discontinued Quick question for Ted or Leo if I may- Is the dynamic suspension still going to be spec Focus legal(and still competitive!) in the future -as far as you know? I bought the Dynamic suspension(destined for my DD),and still have it sitting new in the box. But I may-just may -be able to budget a spec Focus build pretty soon. If I can-I'll buy another Focus(zetec) for that build and build my current DD(Duratec) with a more autocross friendly suspension,(I've been leaning more torwards a 2" drop on the DD anyway). So in a nutshell-should I sell the dynamic kit now, or retain it for a possible spec build? Thanks for any facts and/or opinions here! __________________ Mike's car- French Blue 2004 Ford Focus ZX3-2.3,5spd...Cosworth Exh,FRPP Dynamic suspension and Rally Whites,LCR plates,Prothane bushings,Toyo RA1's, Hawk HP+ Pads,StopTech(Centric)Front Rotors Doris' car -Velocity Red 2005 Mazda3S sedan,2.3L Duratec(MazdaMZR),slushbox, Hankook RS2's

07-09-2007, 09:11 AM	#47
natedog_1959 Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 1,286	Re: Dynamic Suspension Discontinued So they are going to start producing it again? Nate __________________ 2004 SVT Focus Black w/ red inserts, HID's, Audiophile. Show: Euro Upper Grille, Tinted Corners, 5% tint on rear three windows, Black EAP Wheels w/ black lug nuts. Go: Steeda STS, SRI, STB, 2 Mounts, MSD Coil/Wires, Side Gapped Cu Plugs, SS Brake Lines, F2 Rear Sway, SRF Throttle Body, ORP, Borla Exhaust, Grounding Kit, SVT Salvage battery box and Odyssey battery, COSDEVSVT Harness Bar, Corbeau Harness, 215/45/17 Dunlop Z1's, Multimatic/KYB suspension, P-51 shims, Centric rotors/Hawk HPS pads.

07-09-2007, 06:06 PM	#48
68 Touring Car Premier Sponsor Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Motor City Posts: 1,182	Re: Dynamic Suspension Discontinued They should be available shortly. __________________ Leo NASA Spec Focus Series Director www.capaldiracing.com "Quitters Never Win"

07-09-2007, 11:40 PM	#49
f2focus Associate Sponsor Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Whittier, CA Posts: 1,996	Re: Dynamic Suspension Discontinued Yes with different rear struts because those are the ones that leaked.... __________________ Authorized Dealer for: Brembo Brakes, Clutchnet, Vogtland, Eibach, Koni, Tokico, Ingalls, Ireland Engineering, Crower Cams, Supertech, ACT Clutch, ARP Studs, Kyowa Wheels, Nitto Tires, Toyo Tires, StopTech Brakes, Centric Brakes, TurboSmart, Cosworth, Street Scene. www.f2focus.com Vehicles: 2008 Ford Fusion, 2009 Ford Flex (Coming), 2010 Mazda 3 (Coming)

07-10-2007, 04:27 PM	#50
gobstopper Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: St. Petersburg, FL Posts: 2,007	Re: Dynamic Suspension Discontinued