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Old 06-22-2007, 06:11 PM   #1
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Installation of a right side impact net or a seat bolster is required per the CCR on July 1st, 2007. That means you MUST have a side net or a seat with right side head bolster in order to race. Please do not ask the tech officials to give you a waiver as you know the answer will be disappointing.

Please read the rule 15.17.9 for exact details.

If you need to purchase a side net there are many outlets. One one many that satisfies the requirement is the RaceTech

http://www.racetechseatsna.com/Side%20Net.html

If you have interest, check out the video link on that page of a crash without containment.

I'll ask Leo if he has some photos of his cars.
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Old 06-22-2007, 08:40 PM   #2
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CDOC also sells them. We run the unit in our SCCA car.
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Nice of Nasa to require a RH net but not specify anything about it? Mounting requirements, placement, attachmnt points????
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Old 06-23-2007, 12:09 AM   #4
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They are very simple to mount. The rear mounts are straight forward as they go on the roll cage. The front goes the dash with a eye hook. You can look at any car that hasn't and figure it out in 30 seconds.
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You can look at any car that has [it] and figure it out in 30 seconds.
Of course he can.

His point, I assume, is the apparent lack of rudimentary placement guidlines, measurements or other specifications that other rules may contain.
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Old 06-23-2007, 11:38 AM   #6
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I'm sure when you go through tech and it's too low or high they will tell you and you spend another 2 mins adjusting it. It IS that simple.
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Old 06-23-2007, 12:31 PM   #7
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Nice of Nasa to require a RH net but not specify anything about it? Mounting requirements, placement, attachmnt points????

That is because not all RH net are NOT the same, they can be different. Each RH net must be installed by Manufactory recommendation and fit within NASA's guidelines.
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Old 06-23-2007, 12:35 PM   #8
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15.17.9 Head Restraint – Side Impact

As of July 1st, 2007 it is required that all drivers employ a right-side impact head restraint
system. A seat with a “bolster” to keep the head from moving to the right side in an
impact is acceptable. A side-impact head-net restraint system, such as the Racetech
RTViperRP is also acceptable. Note- all side-impact head-net restraint systems must
have a quick-release mechanism to aid the driver in case of a necessary egress via the
passenger side.

Note- it is recommended that a side net wrap around the seat and function to help stop
the shoulders, head bolster (if applicable), and seat from moving sideways in an impact.
It is best to follow the manufacturer’s suggestions for installation of any safety device.
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However, in lieu of suggestions, or in addition to, it is recommend that the lower strap of
the side net run parallel with the fore/aft center line of the car and be low enough to
support the shoulder area as well. Furthermore, it is suggested that the top strap follow
a path through the center of the helmet, when viewed from the side.

See Reference Diagram in the CCRs at 15.17.9-1.
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Old 06-23-2007, 01:01 PM   #9
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It IS that simple.
Of course it is. Why are you arguning with me?
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Old 06-23-2007, 01:53 PM   #10
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15.17.9 Head Restraint – Side Impact

As of July 1st, 2007 it is required that all drivers employ a right-side impact head restraint
system. A seat with a “bolster” to keep the head from moving to the right side in an
impact is acceptable. A side-impact head-net restraint system, such as the Racetech
RTViperRP is also acceptable. Note- all side-impact head-net restraint systems must
have a quick-release mechanism to aid the driver in case of a necessary egress via the
passenger side.

Note- it is recommended that a side net wrap around the seat and function to help stop
the shoulders, head bolster (if applicable), and seat from moving sideways in an impact.
It is best to follow the manufacturer’s suggestions for installation of any safety device.
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However, in lieu of suggestions, or in addition to, it is recommend that the lower strap of
the side net run parallel with the fore/aft center line of the car and be low enough to
support the shoulder area as well. Furthermore, it is suggested that the top strap follow
a path through the center of the helmet, when viewed from the side.

See Reference Diagram in the CCRs at 15.17.9-1.

Well the answer WAS in the rule book... Simple huh?

I like how it says "Recommended". That IS the design of the net that is "Required".
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Old 06-23-2007, 03:42 PM   #11
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It can be a Right Side net or a seat with a “bolster”.
it is recommended that a side net wrap around the seat and function to help stop
the shoulders, head bolster (if applicable).

It is best to follow the manufacturer’s suggestions for installation. Basically you'll have to follow the Manufacture's Instrallation. If you changed how it's suggested by the Manufacture, you might not pass tech inspections.

The big key is not all nets have the same design. Please see below. Think of it like the window net. There's no set way to mount it (Except you can drill a hole in the roll cage like some circle track guys do).





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Old 06-23-2007, 10:35 PM   #12
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Of course he can.

His point, I assume, is the apparent lack of rudimentary placement guidlines, measurements or other specifications that other rules may contain.


Exactly, just like the rule on the second drivers door bar. A mistake would be very expensive, stupid questions are free.
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Is it acceptable to have the dash attachmnet point affixed just to the dash cover? I was planning on mounting it to the steel sub-frame tube of the dash.

Is it correct to assume the dash aatachment point would land about the area of the radio on the dash?
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Old 06-24-2007, 09:24 PM   #14
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Is it acceptable to have the dash attachmnet point affixed just to the dash cover? I was planning on mounting it to the steel sub-frame tube of the dash.
I would attach it to the roll bar cross bar under the dash (if you have one). If you don't have that I would weld a eye hook to the firewall.

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Is it correct to assume the dash aatachment point would land about the area of the radio on the dash?
I would think so. You wouldn't want it too close to the driver side because it could get in the way of you're shifting.
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Old 06-25-2007, 06:45 AM   #15
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Is it acceptable to have the dash attachmnet point affixed just to the dash cover? I was planning on mounting it to the steel sub-frame tube of the dash.

Is it correct to assume the dash aatachment point would land about the area of the radio on the dash?


On ours we went right thru the LH center register to the cross car beam.
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Gentelmen thanks for shedding some light on this subject.
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is the first pic you sent a r.j.s side net,if so can you sent a link or a web site to find this item,,,,,thanks jesse
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is the first pic you sent a r.j.s side net,if so can you sent a link or a web site to find this item,,,,,thanks jesse
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Old 07-16-2007, 07:47 PM   #19
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the RJS one won't fit in our cars. the straps are too short. go with the safety solutions or the racetech. they're the same except the safety solutions has 3 straps and the racetech has 2 straps. they both fit perfect. leo has the safety solutions in his 3 cars and i have the racetech.
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the RJS one won't fit in our cars. the straps are too short. go with the safety solutions or the racetech. they're the same except the safety solutions has 3 straps and the racetech has 2 straps. they both fit perfect. leo has the safety solutions in his 3 cars and i have the racetech.

I agree the safety solutions or the racetech are the two best.
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if i use a sparco circuit pro seat do i need a right hand net.....thanks jesse
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if i use a sparco circuit pro seat do i need a right hand net.....thanks jesse

No, you don't need a RH net with a seat that has a seat bolster.
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just making sure,thanks ted
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You can see here in the pic how we installed our safety solutions net.

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