2010 SF Tire Poll - Page 2 - The Ford Focus Forum

**lapp4sm** · 08-17-2009, 05:46 PM

This dissusion is good to have, but is this an option? If we race with NASA in a "Spec" class, are the RA1's manditory? Their statement sounds like they are.

**Ted7rns** · 08-17-2009, 05:59 PM

That's what we're here for. To find out what we think is best for us.

**BUR_ZX3** · 08-17-2009, 07:06 PM

I'll bow out of this conversation after realizing, that NASA as an organization will likely tell all 8 or so of us Spec Focus "racers" to pound sand, shaddup and use the RA1s.

I'll admit that they're a good tire. But I don't necessarily think they're the best. Personally, I've preferred Hankook's performance, and I know I can get Nittos at a better price than Toyos, which is why I would suggest an open tire rule would be ideal. Run what you prefer so long as the OD doesn't change, and the treadwear isn't too low. But like I said, its not like we're the largest contingent in NASA's basket.... I doubt that they'll wanna tell the $$$$ that be @ Toyo that this little gnat says they're not gonna run your tire.

It is what it is.

Oh and Mark... I'm just waiting on a new transmission, since Clint blew up his diff, and I gave him mine.

**Ted7rns** · 08-17-2009, 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BUR_ZX3

I'll bow out of this conversation after realizing, that NASA as an organization will likely tell all 8 or so of us Spec Focus "racers" to pound sand, shaddup and use the RA1s.

Or Todd... It could be that we don't buy enough Toyo tires to make a difference. It could work both ways

**Ted7rns** · 08-17-2009, 07:24 PM

If we did open the tire rule and mandate the treadwear. Where do we stop it at. Because BFG R1, Hankook Z214,Hoosier R6 & A6, and Kumho V710 are all 40 treadwear or less.

Yokohama ADVAN A048 is a 215/45R17 with a treadwear of 87, but they are not cheap.

**Ted7rns** · 08-17-2009, 07:34 PM

Pilot Sport Cup come in 225/45ZR17 and are a 80 treadwear.
Pirelli PZero Corsa comes in 225/45ZR17 and are 60 treadwear.

**InFocusTraSTi** · 08-19-2009, 09:06 AM

I currently have a set of 225/45 17 bfg r comp in my car (my free autoX tire setup...) and it fits in the front with the new springs. I will be in a track day in PUtnam at the end of the month if anyone wants to see the tire. I can also take measurements if you guys want.

**Ted7rns** · 08-19-2009, 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InFocusTraSTi

I currently have a set of 225/45 17 bfg r comp in my car (my free autoX tire setup...) and it fits in the front with the new springs. I will be in a track day in PUtnam at the end of the month if anyone wants to see the tire. I can also take measurements if you guys want.

No need to measure it, just run them and see how they do.

**Ted7rns** · 08-20-2009, 01:10 PM

It looks like Toyo is not going to bring back the RA1 in our sizes anyways. We might be going with an open tire anyways.

**lapp4sm** · 08-20-2009, 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ted7rns

It looks like Toyo is not going to bring back the RA1 in our sizes anyways. We might be going with an open tire anyways.

I assume "Open" comes with restrictions (size, wear rating etc.).

Will NASA have anything to say about this? Do we have that option since Spec Focus is a "Spec" class?

**Ted7rns** · 08-20-2009, 01:55 PM

I already talked to NASA about this and this where I got the info from.

Leo and I have already started to talked about it. We'll have a set size anyways because we have spec wheels. We'll most likely have a set treadwear as well.

**InFocusTraSTi** · 09-14-2009, 09:06 PM

A quick report the old, dry 225/45/17 seemed to grip as good as the old, dry 235/40/17. The most noticeable difference was just the change in gearing (tire diameter difference). Like you guys said I bet i'm not using the full contact patch of the 235 and that is why it feels like the 235...

View Poll Results: What tires do you want to use for 2010
Toyo R888 215/45x17	1	6.25%
Toyo RA1 205/40x17	1	6.25%
Both RA1s and R888s	3	18.75%
Open Tire Rule	11	68.75%
Voters: 16. You may not vote on this poll

08-17-2009, 05:46 PM	#26 (permalink)
lapp4sm TEAM Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 384	Re: 2010 SF Tire Poll This dissusion is good to have, but is this an option? If we race with NASA in a "Spec" class, are the RA1's manditory? Their statement sounds like they are. __________________

08-17-2009, 05:59 PM	#27 (permalink)
Ted7rns Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Thousand Oaks, California Posts: 4,646	Re: 2010 SF Tire Poll That's what we're here for. To find out what we think is best for us. __________________ 2002 Ford Focus ZX3 Malibu Blue

08-17-2009, 07:06 PM	#28 (permalink)
BUR_ZX3 [FJ] Addict Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Little Saint Clara, Isle of Queen Califia Posts: 36,454	Re: 2010 SF Tire Poll I'll bow out of this conversation after realizing, that NASA as an organization will likely tell all 8 or so of us Spec Focus "racers" to pound sand, shaddup and use the RA1s. I'll admit that they're a good tire. But I don't necessarily think they're the best. Personally, I've preferred Hankook's performance, and I know I can get Nittos at a better price than Toyos, which is why I would suggest an open tire rule would be ideal. Run what you prefer so long as the OD doesn't change, and the treadwear isn't too low. But like I said, its not like we're the largest contingent in NASA's basket.... I doubt that they'll wanna tell the $$$$ that be @ Toyo that this little gnat says they're not gonna run your tire. It is what it is. Oh and Mark... I'm just waiting on a new transmission, since Clint blew up his diff, and I gave him mine. __________________ Focus Challenge Director \| Redline Time Attack Host and Emcee \| Spec Focus Racer

08-17-2009, 07:24 PM	#30 (permalink)
Ted7rns Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Thousand Oaks, California Posts: 4,646	Re: 2010 SF Tire Poll If we did open the tire rule and mandate the treadwear. Where do we stop it at. Because BFG R1, Hankook Z214,Hoosier R6 & A6, and Kumho V710 are all 40 treadwear or less. Yokohama ADVAN A048 is a 215/45R17 with a treadwear of 87, but they are not cheap. __________________ 2002 Ford Focus ZX3 Malibu Blue Last edited by Ted7rns; 08-17-2009 at 07:29 PM.

08-17-2009, 07:34 PM	#31 (permalink)
Ted7rns Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Thousand Oaks, California Posts: 4,646	Re: 2010 SF Tire Poll Pilot Sport Cup come in 225/45ZR17 and are a 80 treadwear. Pirelli PZero Corsa comes in 225/45ZR17 and are 60 treadwear. __________________ 2002 Ford Focus ZX3 Malibu Blue

08-19-2009, 09:06 AM	#32 (permalink)
InFocusTraSTi TEAM Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 241	Re: 2010 SF Tire Poll I currently have a set of 225/45 17 bfg r comp in my car (my free autoX tire setup...) and it fits in the front with the new springs. I will be in a track day in PUtnam at the end of the month if anyone wants to see the tire. I can also take measurements if you guys want.

08-20-2009, 01:10 PM	#34 (permalink)
Ted7rns Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Thousand Oaks, California Posts: 4,646	Re: 2010 SF Tire Poll It looks like Toyo is not going to bring back the RA1 in our sizes anyways. We might be going with an open tire anyways. __________________ 2002 Ford Focus ZX3 Malibu Blue

08-20-2009, 01:55 PM	#36 (permalink)
Ted7rns Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Thousand Oaks, California Posts: 4,646	Re: 2010 SF Tire Poll I already talked to NASA about this and this where I got the info from. Leo and I have already started to talked about it. We'll have a set size anyways because we have spec wheels. We'll most likely have a set treadwear as well. __________________ 2002 Ford Focus ZX3 Malibu Blue

09-14-2009, 09:06 PM	#37 (permalink)
InFocusTraSTi TEAM Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 241	Re: 2010 SF Tire Poll A quick report the old, dry 225/45/17 seemed to grip as good as the old, dry 235/40/17. The most noticeable difference was just the change in gearing (tire diameter difference). Like you guys said I bet i'm not using the full contact patch of the 235 and that is why it feels like the 235...

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