I want my money back (ticking tranny) - Focaljet

**vad** · 04-06-2001, 02:19 PM

Guys, the tranny noise makes me hate the car.
As some of you are saying it took all of the fun out of owning my first brand new car.
I went to different dealers numerous times with no results. All of them were saying either they can't hear it or other cars do the same thing. When I was buying the car the tranny was quiet as it's supposed to be in the modern car. After a couple of thousand of miles it started to develop the knocking sound. The technician claimed that it's normal and won't get worse. How does he know? When I asked how many cases they were dealing with the tech won't answer the question.
I'm getting comments from my coworkers. They wonder why my brand new car sounds "rough". A couple of them thought that Ford started to sell the Diesel Foci in America.
I'm so fed up with this crap. It became clear to me that FoMoCo and its dealers don't want to be bothered with the problem.
More than a month ago I filed out a Dispute Settlement Board Application. At least here in CA you must go through arbitration before invoking Lemon Law. My case will be heard next week. Therefore I would like to ask if any of you were successful or not in forcing FoMoCo to repurchase/replace your car with the help of Arbitration board/Lemon Law or without.
Any advice will be appreciated.

[This message has been edited by vad (edited 04-06-2001).]

**noresull** · 04-06-2001, 07:54 PM

Vad, I'm sorry you feel this way!

Hopefully everything will go your way!

As for this post, I'm moving it to the problems section.

**JOHN** · 04-07-2001, 10:33 PM

I CANT BELIVE THAT PEOPLE ON THIS SITE JUST LIVE WITH THAT NOISE.DO SOMETHING BECAUSE IT IS NOT GOING A WAY.MINE IS NOT TICKING IT IS KNOCKING WITH 550 MILES ON IT. I HATE THE F --- CAR . WHICH OTHER TRANS KNOCKS? MB ,BMW , WV, NO HOW ABOUT A HUINDAY ,DEAWOO, KIA ,NO NO NO . NOT EVEN OTHER FORDS KNOCK. AND WHAT IS REALY PISSING ME OFF ARE THE MODERATORS THAT JUST LABEL YOU AS NASTY,ANGRY PERSON IF HAVE NOTHING NICE TO SAY ABOUT THE CAR OR THE ****Y JOB THEY ARE DOING.

THEY ARE RUNNING A KINDERGAREDEN HERE.

I BET THIS WHOLE SITE WAS BOUGHT BY FORD ABOUT 4 MONTHS AGO
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**Ducman69** · 04-08-2001, 12:08 AM

HI JOHN! HOW ARE YOU DOING MAN! LONG TIME NO SEE! OH SORRY! LET ME TAKE MY HEADPHONES OFF...ok there that's better.

I agree, you shouldn't live with it. Our Cobra's transmission made a "click-kak" sound on really hard deceleration. Granted you couldn't hear it normally, but it is a sports car afterall. So after talking to the right people (naturally it was dismissed at first) we had the transmission completely replaced right before the warranty ran out.

Don't treat the dealers as your enemy. I know you are pissed at them and its hard to feel any other way. But always try to talk to the guy next higher up...and demand it if you have to. Try to work WITH them to solve the problem, but don't feel afraid to let them know what is and is not acceptable to you. If you still aren't satisfied you can take them to a small claims court after you have the problem diagnosed and witnessed by a third party "expert". They should either buy back the car from you with some depreciation for the mileage and provide you with a new one, or replace the transmission completely if they can't figure out what's wrong.

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**Red-SE-00´** · 04-09-2001, 12:09 AM

Ducman69....that first line is the funniest thing I have ever read.......I think I woke up my parents with my laughter!!!

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**foci_R** · 04-09-2001, 05:51 AM

HI JOHN , WHAT ARE YOOOOOUUUUUU DOING ????????

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i love hondas , i love them soooo much i wish i had two..........................one to ***** on and one to cover it up with!!!!!!!!! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------2000 red zx3 , 5% tint all the way around , k&n intake , revolution exhaust , carbon fiber side and rear trim moldings , h4 hyperwhites , yellow fog lights , rear stabalizer wing , 17in tsw 15 spoke rims , 205/40/17zr nitto tires , carbon fiber interior trim , and 15in blaupunkt sub powered by clarion amp.

ordered avenger front bumper on march 27th. , and ordered 1.2in progressive drop springs.

future plans include carbon fiber hood , xenon sideskirts , andys auto sport rear bumper , and beautiful paint job....and of course win all car shows entered!!!!!!!!!!

**focaljet-1** · 04-09-2001, 08:21 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JOHN:
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I BET THIS WHOLE SITE WAS BOUGHT BY FORD ABOUT 4 MONTHS AGO.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeah, I wish, then at least I would be getting paid to respond to guys like you.

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**JOHN** · 04-09-2001, 08:59 PM

wrc fan - so dont respond.
ducman i am glad you are getting a laugh out of this but i realy hate when a ford rep calls it normal with no explanation and labels me as a noise sensitive person.

**focaljet-1** · 04-09-2001, 10:29 PM

Well when you make a stupid comment regarding this site I feel I need to respond so other don't get the wrong idea.

So once again, why don't you get your money or sell the car.

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**the6148** · 04-09-2001, 10:43 PM

Oh~no! If the tranny in my car is ticking, you'd bet I will commission a few lawyers to leave some spanking marks on FoMoCo's butts!

Vad, as I stated before, if you want something to be done, you better act on it. Spilling your angers all over this board isn't going to help you anything.

WRCFan asked a good question, why don't you get the money or get rid of your car? Do yourself a favor, don't get into a Ford again. If I were you, I'd stay at least 10 feet away from any Ford on or off the street.

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Louis L.
2001 Pitch Black ZX3

**vad** · 04-10-2001, 11:18 AM

the6148,
I guess you can't read.
Go back to my message and try to concentrate.
Hopefully you'll get it this time.

**the6148** · 04-10-2001, 01:53 PM

get a lawyer, go visit some more dealers, call up Ford customer service, and more could be done. Maybe you could bring your car in to a respectable shop (Other than Ford Quality Crap Service)for an investgation? Bring the result back to Ford and have them look into it? There are tons of ways to deal with an issue like yours. Just rely on one is quite risky. Pickup your feet and start doing some work. You got a lot of stuffs waiting for you to accomplish.

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Louis L.
2001 Pitch Black ZX3

**vad** · 04-10-2001, 02:43 PM

the 6148,
I researched my state Lemon Law quite a bit and followed its provisions.
Thanks for advice, anyway.

04-06-2001, 02:19 PM	#1
vad Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: La Mesa, CA Posts: 1,890	I want my money back (ticking tranny) Guys, the tranny noise makes me hate the car. As some of you are saying it took all of the fun out of owning my first brand new car. I went to different dealers numerous times with no results. All of them were saying either they can't hear it or other cars do the same thing. When I was buying the car the tranny was quiet as it's supposed to be in the modern car. After a couple of thousand of miles it started to develop the knocking sound. The technician claimed that it's normal and won't get worse. How does he know? When I asked how many cases they were dealing with the tech won't answer the question. I'm getting comments from my coworkers. They wonder why my brand new car sounds "rough". A couple of them thought that Ford started to sell the Diesel Foci in America. I'm so fed up with this crap. It became clear to me that FoMoCo and its dealers don't want to be bothered with the problem. More than a month ago I filed out a Dispute Settlement Board Application. At least here in CA you must go through arbitration before invoking Lemon Law. My case will be heard next week. Therefore I would like to ask if any of you were successful or not in forcing FoMoCo to repurchase/replace your car with the help of Arbitration board/Lemon Law or without. Any advice will be appreciated. [This message has been edited by vad (edited 04-06-2001).]

04-06-2001, 07:54 PM	#2
noresull [FJ] Specialist Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Isanti, Southern Canada, MN USA Posts: 5,195	Re: I want my money back (ticking tranny) Vad, I'm sorry you feel this way! Hopefully everything will go your way! As for this post, I'm moving it to the problems section.

04-07-2001, 10:33 PM	#3
JOHN Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 61	Re: I want my money back (ticking tranny) I CANT BELIVE THAT PEOPLE ON THIS SITE JUST LIVE WITH THAT NOISE.DO SOMETHING BECAUSE IT IS NOT GOING A WAY.MINE IS NOT TICKING IT IS KNOCKING WITH 550 MILES ON IT. I HATE THE F --- CAR . WHICH OTHER TRANS KNOCKS? MB ,BMW , WV, NO HOW ABOUT A HUINDAY ,DEAWOO, KIA ,NO NO NO . NOT EVEN OTHER FORDS KNOCK. AND WHAT IS REALY PISSING ME OFF ARE THE MODERATORS THAT JUST LABEL YOU AS NASTY,ANGRY PERSON IF HAVE NOTHING NICE TO SAY ABOUT THE CAR OR THE ****Y JOB THEY ARE DOING. THEY ARE RUNNING A KINDERGAREDEN HERE. I BET THIS WHOLE SITE WAS BOUGHT BY FORD ABOUT 4 MONTHS AGO .

04-08-2001, 12:08 AM	#4
Ducman69 I pretend to know everything. Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: van by the river Posts: 18,764	Re: I want my money back (ticking tranny) HI JOHN! HOW ARE YOU DOING MAN! LONG TIME NO SEE! OH SORRY! LET ME TAKE MY HEADPHONES OFF...ok there that's better. I agree, you shouldn't live with it. Our Cobra's transmission made a "click-kak" sound on really hard deceleration. Granted you couldn't hear it normally, but it is a sports car afterall. So after talking to the right people (naturally it was dismissed at first) we had the transmission completely replaced right before the warranty ran out. Don't treat the dealers as your enemy. I know you are pissed at them and its hard to feel any other way. But always try to talk to the guy next higher up...and demand it if you have to. Try to work WITH them to solve the problem, but don't feel afraid to let them know what is and is not acceptable to you. If you still aren't satisfied you can take them to a small claims court after you have the problem diagnosed and witnessed by a third party "expert". They should either buy back the car from you with some depreciation for the mileage and provide you with a new one, or replace the transmission completely if they can't figure out what's wrong. ------------------ 00 Ford ZX3 / 96 Ford Cobra 90 Yam FJ1200/ 85 Yam RZ350 / 84 Yam RZ350 Engine Forum Moderator -Chris-

04-09-2001, 12:09 AM	#5
Red-SE-00´ Moderator Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: slowredspi Posts: 13,251	Re: I want my money back (ticking tranny) Ducman69....that first line is the funniest thing I have ever read.......I think I woke up my parents with my laughter!!! ------------------ Gabe Greene -2KFocusSE -ProjectRedRocker -FSCoolFlo+BPT+IcemanLower -FSExhaust -FSStressbar -FSPlugWires -ProgressRearSwayBar -AutometerDualPod -Air/FuelMeter&VoltMeter -17"Rage5.0s+Kumho712s -LotsOfIce -SomeRedPaintInside&Out -SomeSilverGraphics -StrongtowerEyelids www.modernperformance.com TEAM SPI/4 DOA "What we do in life, echoes an eternity."

04-09-2001, 05:51 AM	#6
foci_R Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: 808 Posts: 1,000	Re: I want my money back (ticking tranny) HI JOHN , WHAT ARE YOOOOOUUUUUU DOING ???????? ------------------ i love hondas , i love them soooo much i wish i had two..........................one to ***** on and one to cover it up with!!!!!!!!! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------2000 red zx3 , 5% tint all the way around , k&n intake , revolution exhaust , carbon fiber side and rear trim moldings , h4 hyperwhites , yellow fog lights , rear stabalizer wing , 17in tsw 15 spoke rims , 205/40/17zr nitto tires , carbon fiber interior trim , and 15in blaupunkt sub powered by clarion amp. ordered avenger front bumper on march 27th. , and ordered 1.2in progressive drop springs. future plans include carbon fiber hood , xenon sideskirts , andys auto sport rear bumper , and beautiful paint job....and of course win all car shows entered!!!!!!!!!!

04-09-2001, 08:21 AM	#7
focaljet-1 Small Car Czar Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: On the RotorMedia helipad Posts: 29,114	Re: I want my money back (ticking tranny) <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JOHN: I I BET THIS WHOLE SITE WAS BOUGHT BY FORD ABOUT 4 MONTHS AGO.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Yeah, I wish, then at least I would be getting paid to respond to guys like you. ------------------ If you have any questions or comments about Focaljet please email me wrcfan@focaljet.com

04-09-2001, 08:59 PM	#8
JOHN Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 61	Re: I want my money back (ticking tranny) wrc fan - so dont respond. ducman i am glad you are getting a laugh out of this but i realy hate when a ford rep calls it normal with no explanation and labels me as a noise sensitive person.

04-09-2001, 10:29 PM	#9
focaljet-1 Small Car Czar Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: On the RotorMedia helipad Posts: 29,114	Re: I want my money back (ticking tranny) Well when you make a stupid comment regarding this site I feel I need to respond so other don't get the wrong idea. So once again, why don't you get your money or sell the car. ------------------ If you have any questions or comments about Focaljet please email me wrcfan@focaljet.com

04-09-2001, 10:43 PM	#10
the6148 Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 2,773	Re: I want my money back (ticking tranny) Oh~no! If the tranny in my car is ticking, you'd bet I will commission a few lawyers to leave some spanking marks on FoMoCo's butts! Vad, as I stated before, if you want something to be done, you better act on it. Spilling your angers all over this board isn't going to help you anything. WRCFan asked a good question, why don't you get the money or get rid of your car? Do yourself a favor, don't get into a Ford again. If I were you, I'd stay at least 10 feet away from any Ford on or off the street. ------------------ Louis L. 2001 Pitch Black ZX3

04-10-2001, 11:18 AM	#11
vad Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: La Mesa, CA Posts: 1,890	Re: I want my money back (ticking tranny) the6148, I guess you can't read. Go back to my message and try to concentrate. Hopefully you'll get it this time.

04-10-2001, 01:53 PM	#12
the6148 Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 2,773	Re: I want my money back (ticking tranny) get a lawyer, go visit some more dealers, call up Ford customer service, and more could be done. Maybe you could bring your car in to a respectable shop (Other than Ford Quality Crap Service)for an investgation? Bring the result back to Ford and have them look into it? There are tons of ways to deal with an issue like yours. Just rely on one is quite risky. Pickup your feet and start doing some work. You got a lot of stuffs waiting for you to accomplish. ------------------ Louis L. 2001 Pitch Black ZX3

04-10-2001, 02:43 PM	#13
vad Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: La Mesa, CA Posts: 1,890	Re: I want my money back (ticking tranny) the 6148, I researched my state Lemon Law quite a bit and followed its provisions. Thanks for advice, anyway.

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