engine noise - Focaljet

**nazthug** · 03-17-2001, 02:44 AM

or tranny, damn ford, thats what i hate about this car, thats the only thing. That cheap car sounding rattle at low rpm and too much valve train noise at high rpm, sounds like a cheap engine. The exhuast and intake helped, i hope when i get the header it will help too, maybe change out the oil in the tranny. I want a smooth carr

jaguarpriest · 06-05-2001, 09:19 PM

I Heard from the Mech at the Ford Dealership that this is the sound of Bearings and it happens when not enough gas is being applied to the engine. Its not Bad he said, He said i'm UNDERrunning the engine. He just said..GIVE it more gas.

I probablly didn't help ..but I hate that Noise too. I really don't think its valve realated as much as its Tranny related.

my .02

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**gestalt** · 06-06-2001, 04:18 PM

I've put almost 1200 miles on my car since buying it 3 weeks ago and after 500 miles or so also have noticed the Noisy Tranny Syndrome. I'll also agree its the only thing I dislike about the Focus.

I try to keep revs above 1900 or 2000 RPM to avoid the noise but in stop and go driving conditions you can't avoid low RPMs. Even my 81 Toyota Corrola (which my dad now drives) with 250,000 has a tighter feeling transmission!! It's never had a rebuild.

I do have a question for the Foci experts: what is the difference between the "European Production" MTX-75 and the North American one? I noticed the in the specs for Ford's FR200 concept they used a Euro box-- why is that? Is the Euro version somehow more robust as the reason Ford used it in the FR200? According to my window sticker, my tranny was built in Germany... so, the Euro and N. American trasmissions are made in the same continent it appears. What gives? Would the final drive ratio be the only difference?

Also, do the Euro folks have the same refinement problems with their 5-speeds or do us Americans complain about it more?

--Ben

**strictly4Dstreet** · 06-06-2001, 04:26 PM

my car is dam brand new and it does this. Its just that your gear is too high for how fast you are going. The mech was right, just give it more gas.. i can drive at low rpm w/o this happening. juss dont have your gear in 4 while you are traveling 20 mph

**biker16** · 06-06-2001, 06:40 PM

The zetec is a pretty old engine, over 10yrs old. Ford has the replacement engine ready but for some reason they didn't put in the 2002 Focus.

http://home.att.net/~biker16/imageE1R.JPG

The all alloy Duratec HE in the mondeo and the ranger. It is very smooth, powerful and efficent. Don't take my word for it, just drive a Ranger 2.3 for yourself.

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Black Focus SE sport.
WHERE IS MY DURATEC?

you have 780,000 all I want is one.

I'm not a player I just crash alot.

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**focusislife** · 06-06-2001, 10:19 PM

the engine noise that you are refering to is unfortunately just the nature of the beast. there is nothing wrong with your engine its just a noisy pain in the ass. try to ignore it or you can always just keep giving it a little gas to keep it from making the noise.
i had a 98 zx2 that had the same problem. dont worry bout it just do your best to ignore it.

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**swooshUSN** · 06-06-2001, 11:05 PM

to avoid the noise, just don't try to accelerate if the revs drop below 1800rpm. Just downshift, and you shouldn't hear it...or just turn up the radio!!

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**icemanZX3** · 06-06-2001, 11:09 PM

L U B E G A R D

**esseff** · 06-06-2001, 11:24 PM

People, you are lugging the engine. That is going too slow in too high a gear. This stresses the engine and causes the trans to work very hard. In the extreme, it will cause the engine to stall. None of this is good for the car. So, down shift or speed up. Don't just sit there DO IT!

**gestalt** · 06-07-2001, 01:46 AM

95% of the time I keep revs above 1900rpm to avoid lugging. HOWEVER, certain conditions occur when its unavoidable because of the large gap between 1st and 2nd gear ratios (or it's our taller final drive ratio). For example, I often find when slowing down to make a turn I'm going too slow for 2nd gear (lugging) but rolling too fast to shift into 1st because of the way the syncros work. You almost have to be at a dead stop before the transmission will smoothly shift into 1st. Stop and go traffic can yield similar situations. Okay... I'll just turn up the radio as you guys suggest.

I'm still curious about the difference between Euro and NA MTX-75's.

--Ben

**Turbo** · 06-07-2001, 09:00 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by biker16:
The zetec is a pretty old engine, over 10yrs old. Ford has the replacement engine ready but for some reason they didn't put in the 2002 Focus.

http://home.att.net/~biker16/imageE1R.JPG

The all alloy Duratec HE in the mondeo and the ranger. It is very smooth, powerful and efficent. Don't take my word for it, just drive a Ranger 2.3 for yourself.

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

From what I have read.. the 2.3 duratec is a hog on gas even for an I4.. but the 2.0 Duratec HE is what we should be aiming at.. its much improved! I just hope they use a decent tranny for it. I miss the G5M days.. now that was a sweet trans!

**biker16** · 06-08-2001, 12:19 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Turbo:

From what I have read.. the 2.3 duratec is a hog on gas even for an I4.. but the 2.0 Duratec HE is what we should be aiming at.. its much improved! I just hope they use a decent tranny for it. I miss the G5M days.. now that was a sweet trans!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

The 2.3 is in the ranger a PU truck it gets 24/28 mpg it is the highest economy PU in the US. Ford insist the 2.3 will have equal or better econmy than the ZETEC, but with more power. It is louder thant the ZEtec is in our focus but the Focus is far more Refined than the ranger.

Even though the engine is tuned for low RPM torque, the motor sings above 4000 Rpm.

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Black Focus SE sport.
WHERE IS MY DURATEC?

you have 780,000 all I want is one.

I'm not a player I just crash alot.

http://home.att.net/~biker16/
"From this point on the world is in Focus"

**PhocusZX3** · 06-08-2001, 08:44 AM

Most people think my car sounds similar to a diesel motor at idle.

I too have a tranny "knock" when the clutch is disengaged. I believe it is the throw-out bearing, and needs to be replaced whenever I get a new clutch.

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**Griff** · 06-08-2001, 09:19 AM

I too have this low noise at low revvs. I hadn't noticed it until I went camping in the country, and was driving very slowly though the camp site late at night, it sounded like a diesel, only does it a low revs in first when moving off.

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Delocked,
Purple Side Lights.

**Hondo88** · 06-09-2001, 12:14 AM

I know this noise that your referring to, and I'm sure more people will notice it as the summer gets closer and more people keep their windows open. I tend to agree that it's some sort of bearing/engine phenomena, and I'm not sure how much it has to do with the tranny. I agree that the tranny is not that smooth and seems to make its own strange noises, but the under load sound that people are describing when the gear is to high or the rev's are to low sounds like some sort of bearing noise.
I also concur with other people that sometimes it seems unavoidable, like when your going around a turn to quickly for first gear, but to slow for second and this lack of power noise starts.
Is there anything that can be done to help this, besides driving differently? Do people with highly modified engines notice these things?

**biker16** · 06-09-2001, 01:20 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by gestalt:
I've put almost 1200 miles on my car since buying it 3 weeks ago and after 500 miles or so also have noticed the Noisy Tranny Syndrome. I'll also agree its the only thing I dislike about the Focus.

I try to keep revs above 1900 or 2000 RPM to avoid the noise but in stop and go driving conditions you can't avoid low RPMs. Even my 81 Toyota Corrola (which my dad now drives) with 250,000 has a tighter feeling transmission!! It's never had a rebuild.

I do have a question for the Foci experts: what is the difference between the "European Production" MTX-75 and the North American one? I noticed the in the specs for Ford's FR200 concept they used a Euro box-- why is that? Is the Euro version somehow more robust as the reason Ford used it in the FR200? According to my window sticker, my tranny was built in Germany... so, the Euro and N. American trasmissions are made in the same continent it appears. What gives? Would the final drive ratio be the only difference?

Also, do the Euro folks have the same refinement problems with their 5-speeds or do us Americans complain about it more?

--Ben<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

The US tranny is built in europe with the euro tranny the difference is in the ratios and the new mondeo uses a better trany fluid than the focus. But they are the same Tranny.

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Black Focus SE sport.
WHERE IS MY DURATEC?

you have 780,000 all I want is one.

I'm not a player I just crash alot.

http://home.att.net/~biker16/
"From this point on the world is in Focus"

**Ducman69** · 06-09-2001, 03:11 PM

For tranny noise issue, please contribute to this thread: http://www.teamfocaljet.com/ubb/Foru.../000980-2.html

Thanks.

**Ducman69** · 06-09-2001, 03:11 PM

Its also the same tranny as in the Contour and Cougar. I've never heard any strange ticking in them. However, lately I have heard a small ticking sound in neutral with the AC on.

Someone did figure out how to fix it. I'll have to paste it here but there were three parts and a couple cables adjusted and the noise went away.

I'm going to go ahead and move this over to the problems/complaints forum though as I don't think there are any known modifications that increase the performance AND make the tranny shut up.

Not sure why this problem only seems to be noticed on the MTX-75s on Foci. Seems odd.

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**biker16** · 06-10-2001, 12:29 AM

the zetec engine in the ZX2 makes the same noise that the Zetec in our cars. but the ZX2 has a mazda tranny not the MXT75 in our focus.

It is just a noisy engine.

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Black Focus SE sport.
WHERE IS MY DURATEC?

you have 780,000 all I want is one.

I'm not a player I just crash alot.

http://home.att.net/~biker16/
"From this point on the world is in Focus"

**John_Deer_5Speed** · 06-11-2001, 08:24 AM

You guys may want to check out the TEAM TECH forum. There is currently a lengthy thread about transmission noise.

**John_Deer_5Speed** · 06-11-2001, 08:26 AM

Uh, I guess I just repeated what Ducman had written. Sorry about that.

**vad** · 06-11-2001, 02:41 PM

I wanna ask you people something.
All this talk about the noisy tranny etc.
Yes, it's the transaxle noise. (goes away when you push the clutch in plus tractor/diesel-like noise at low rpm immediately after clutch engagement).
No,you're not lagging the engine even at 1500 rpm with light throttle.
Yes, I and YOU can close up the windows, turn up the stereo volume and just not pay attention to the noise. Problem solved? Really?
Are you asking those questions about the noise just to make sure that every other manual Focus, not just yours, have the problem? And when you do find it out,just go away like there was nothing wrong?
Would you buy the car if you were aware of the noise and knew that every manual Foci on the lot was making the noise. If you answer YES, I have no point talking to you any longer. If you answer NO, what are you waiting for? Njbongo got some organizing effort going. Please e-mail him and make your voice heard. Our strength in numbers.

**njbongo** · 06-11-2001, 04:07 PM

Thanks vad...

I am hoping that people are not just reading that post and passing it by. I really want to try and do this, but even the people who posted that they would participate, HAVE NOT EMAILED ME YET !?!?!?! With the exception of Vad.

It's funny, everyone who has the noise wants to complain about it to no end, but no-one seems to want to actually do anything about it.

Oh, well, I'm still waiting for you emails...all I need right now is an email from you with your full name and email address with 'FOCUS' in the subject line. Once I get like 100 people or more, I can start working on a letter to Ford and gathering up the evidence from everyone.

Do you guys wanna talk anout the problems and hope they go away? Not gonna happen. Even if it is as simple as putting a better transaxle fluid in it, FORD is still repsonsible and should do this as a recall. I really don't think it's that easy.

have a good one

Victor

**focidiehard** · 06-19-2001, 10:51 PM

I'm no expert, but when you go around a corner and the noise comes I think you should stick the clutch in and ride the corner (california type stop light) speed 20-30 mph, put it in 2nd or 3rd and go. If you need the speed (of course not over 30 mph aprox.) jam it in 2nd to get out of trouble, of course watch your rpm. No red line keep it low if possible but I wouldn't go much over 12 o'clock (unless racing). If it's a long corner at low speed use your judgement don't let it lagg, down shift, speed up, or push in the clutch. I have a zx3 zeetec with 5 spd., in my neighborhood I have to drive 15 mph, I stick it in 2nd and it does just fine even around corners (the key is the clutch use it it's your friend). Hope this helps.

**njbongo** · 06-20-2001, 01:23 PM

focidiehard, the noise has NOTHING to do with the clutch. The noise comes when accelerating at a low RPM (between 1900-3000 RPMS). This range is NOT lugging the engine, and no matter what you do with the clutch, the noise is still there. It usually only happens in first and second gear.

I think you are confusing the issue here. It's not a driver's problem, it's the CAR'S problem. Thank You.

Victor

03-17-2001, 02:44 AM	#1
nazthug [FJ] Addict Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: san ramon, ca, usa Posts: 14,215	engine noise or tranny, damn ford, thats what i hate about this car, thats the only thing. That cheap car sounding rattle at low rpm and too much valve train noise at high rpm, sounds like a cheap engine. The exhuast and intake helped, i hope when i get the header it will help too, maybe change out the oil in the tranny. I want a smooth carr

06-05-2001, 09:19 PM	#2
jaguarpriest TEAM Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: San Diego CA Posts: 126	Re: engine noise I Heard from the Mech at the Ford Dealership that this is the sound of Bearings and it happens when not enough gas is being applied to the engine. Its not Bad he said, He said i'm UNDERrunning the engine. He just said..GIVE it more gas. I probablly didn't help ..but I hate that Noise too. I really don't think its valve realated as much as its Tranny related. my .02 ------------------ Pitch Black ZX3-MODS-Konya HyperWhites, 1320 TEMS Exhaust

06-06-2001, 04:18 PM	#3
gestalt Rookie Join Date: May 2001 Location: Portland, OR USA Posts: 10	Re: engine noise I've put almost 1200 miles on my car since buying it 3 weeks ago and after 500 miles or so also have noticed the Noisy Tranny Syndrome. I'll also agree its the only thing I dislike about the Focus. I try to keep revs above 1900 or 2000 RPM to avoid the noise but in stop and go driving conditions you can't avoid low RPMs. Even my 81 Toyota Corrola (which my dad now drives) with 250,000 has a tighter feeling transmission!! It's never had a rebuild. I do have a question for the Foci experts: what is the difference between the "European Production" MTX-75 and the North American one? I noticed the in the specs for Ford's FR200 concept they used a Euro box-- why is that? Is the Euro version somehow more robust as the reason Ford used it in the FR200? According to my window sticker, my tranny was built in Germany... so, the Euro and N. American trasmissions are made in the same continent it appears. What gives? Would the final drive ratio be the only difference? Also, do the Euro folks have the same refinement problems with their 5-speeds or do us Americans complain about it more? --Ben

06-06-2001, 04:26 PM	#4
strictly4Dstreet TEAM Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: South San Francisco Posts: 104	Re: engine noise my car is dam brand new and it does this. Its just that your gear is too high for how fast you are going. The mech was right, just give it more gas.. i can drive at low rpm w/o this happening. juss dont have your gear in 4 while you are traveling 20 mph

06-06-2001, 06:40 PM	#5
biker16 Moderator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cleveland, OH, USA Posts: 4,710	Re: engine noise The zetec is a pretty old engine, over 10yrs old. Ford has the replacement engine ready but for some reason they didn't put in the 2002 Focus. http://home.att.net/~biker16/imageE1R.JPG The all alloy Duratec HE in the mondeo and the ranger. It is very smooth, powerful and efficent. Don't take my word for it, just drive a Ranger 2.3 for yourself. ------------------ Black Focus SE sport. WHERE IS MY DURATEC? you have 780,000 all I want is one. I'm not a player I just crash alot. http://home.att.net/~biker16/ "From this point on the world is in Focus"

06-06-2001, 10:19 PM	#6
focusislife Junior Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: andrews, afb, md, usa Posts: 54	Re: engine noise the engine noise that you are refering to is unfortunately just the nature of the beast. there is nothing wrong with your engine its just a noisy pain in the ass. try to ignore it or you can always just keep giving it a little gas to keep it from making the noise. i had a 98 zx2 that had the same problem. dont worry bout it just do your best to ignore it. ------------------ malibu blue 00 zx3 fs cat back, header, cold air intake ,8mm wires ,momo racing pedals ,fs banner blue tint

06-06-2001, 11:05 PM	#7
swooshUSN [FJ] Specialist Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Pittsburgh/Norfolk Posts: 8,521	Re: engine noise to avoid the noise, just don't try to accelerate if the revs drop below 1800rpm. Just downshift, and you shouldn't hear it...or just turn up the radio!! ------------------ Adam Kramer TEAM Focaljet: MidAtlantic Leader/Moderator 2001 Sangria Red ZX3;5-speed;all power;moonroof;Mobil 1 Synthetic ATF;Momentum "shortie" antenna;KW Variant 1 coilovers Installed!!;Focus Tuning Wing;Borla Cat-back;Injen CAI;B&M Short Throw;Esslinger UDP;Pioneer DEH-P7200; MTX 6000 12" with Soundstream Rubicon 405;Intermittent Wiper mod;Kaminari Side Skirts;30% front windows, 20% rears;Piaa H4 Xtreme White;Max Super White Xe Fog bulbs;more to come... Come visit my zing album IM me @ swooshzx3

06-06-2001, 11:09 PM	#8
icemanZX3 [FJ] Addict Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Cincinnati,Ohio Posts: 12,567	Re: engine noise L U B E G A R D

06-06-2001, 11:24 PM	#9
esseff TEAM Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Northwestern, NJ, USA Posts: 569	Re: engine noise People, you are lugging the engine. That is going too slow in too high a gear. This stresses the engine and causes the trans to work very hard. In the extreme, it will cause the engine to stall. None of this is good for the car. So, down shift or speed up. Don't just sit there DO IT!

06-07-2001, 01:46 AM	#10
gestalt Rookie Join Date: May 2001 Location: Portland, OR USA Posts: 10	Re: engine noise 95% of the time I keep revs above 1900rpm to avoid lugging. HOWEVER, certain conditions occur when its unavoidable because of the large gap between 1st and 2nd gear ratios (or it's our taller final drive ratio). For example, I often find when slowing down to make a turn I'm going too slow for 2nd gear (lugging) but rolling too fast to shift into 1st because of the way the syncros work. You almost have to be at a dead stop before the transmission will smoothly shift into 1st. Stop and go traffic can yield similar situations. Okay... I'll just turn up the radio as you guys suggest. I'm still curious about the difference between Euro and NA MTX-75's. --Ben

06-07-2001, 09:00 AM	#11
Turbo TEAM Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: x-chicago, now Milwaukee Posts: 165	Re: engine noise <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by biker16: The zetec is a pretty old engine, over 10yrs old. Ford has the replacement engine ready but for some reason they didn't put in the 2002 Focus. http://home.att.net/~biker16/imageE1R.JPG The all alloy Duratec HE in the mondeo and the ranger. It is very smooth, powerful and efficent. Don't take my word for it, just drive a Ranger 2.3 for yourself. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> From what I have read.. the 2.3 duratec is a hog on gas even for an I4.. but the 2.0 Duratec HE is what we should be aiming at.. its much improved! I just hope they use a decent tranny for it. I miss the G5M days.. now that was a sweet trans!

06-08-2001, 12:19 AM	#12
biker16 Moderator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cleveland, OH, USA Posts: 4,710	Re: engine noise <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Turbo: From what I have read.. the 2.3 duratec is a hog on gas even for an I4.. but the 2.0 Duratec HE is what we should be aiming at.. its much improved! I just hope they use a decent tranny for it. I miss the G5M days.. now that was a sweet trans!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> The 2.3 is in the ranger a PU truck it gets 24/28 mpg it is the highest economy PU in the US. Ford insist the 2.3 will have equal or better econmy than the ZETEC, but with more power. It is louder thant the ZEtec is in our focus but the Focus is far more Refined than the ranger. Even though the engine is tuned for low RPM torque, the motor sings above 4000 Rpm. ------------------ Black Focus SE sport. WHERE IS MY DURATEC? you have 780,000 all I want is one. I'm not a player I just crash alot. http://home.att.net/~biker16/ "From this point on the world is in Focus"

06-08-2001, 08:44 AM	#13
PhocusZX3 [FJ] Specialist Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Tampa/Brandon, FL Posts: 5,801	Re: engine noise Most people think my car sounds similar to a diesel motor at idle. I too have a tranny "knock" when the clutch is disengaged. I believe it is the throw-out bearing, and needs to be replaced whenever I get a new clutch. ------------------ "Hike up your skirt a little more, and show your world to me."

06-08-2001, 09:19 AM	#14
Griff TEAM Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Sunderland, NE England Posts: 330	Re: engine noise I too have this low noise at low revvs. I hadn't noticed it until I went camping in the country, and was driving very slowly though the camp site late at night, it sounded like a diesel, only does it a low revs in first when moving off. ------------------ 1.6 16v UK State Blue LX K&N Induction Kit, Delocked, Purple Side Lights.

06-09-2001, 12:14 AM	#15
Hondo88 TEAM Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 487	Re: engine noise I know this noise that your referring to, and I'm sure more people will notice it as the summer gets closer and more people keep their windows open. I tend to agree that it's some sort of bearing/engine phenomena, and I'm not sure how much it has to do with the tranny. I agree that the tranny is not that smooth and seems to make its own strange noises, but the under load sound that people are describing when the gear is to high or the rev's are to low sounds like some sort of bearing noise. I also concur with other people that sometimes it seems unavoidable, like when your going around a turn to quickly for first gear, but to slow for second and this lack of power noise starts. Is there anything that can be done to help this, besides driving differently? Do people with highly modified engines notice these things?

06-09-2001, 01:20 PM	#16
biker16 Moderator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cleveland, OH, USA Posts: 4,710	Re: engine noise <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by gestalt: I've put almost 1200 miles on my car since buying it 3 weeks ago and after 500 miles or so also have noticed the Noisy Tranny Syndrome. I'll also agree its the only thing I dislike about the Focus. I try to keep revs above 1900 or 2000 RPM to avoid the noise but in stop and go driving conditions you can't avoid low RPMs. Even my 81 Toyota Corrola (which my dad now drives) with 250,000 has a tighter feeling transmission!! It's never had a rebuild. I do have a question for the Foci experts: what is the difference between the "European Production" MTX-75 and the North American one? I noticed the in the specs for Ford's FR200 concept they used a Euro box-- why is that? Is the Euro version somehow more robust as the reason Ford used it in the FR200? According to my window sticker, my tranny was built in Germany... so, the Euro and N. American trasmissions are made in the same continent it appears. What gives? Would the final drive ratio be the only difference? Also, do the Euro folks have the same refinement problems with their 5-speeds or do us Americans complain about it more? --Ben<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> The US tranny is built in europe with the euro tranny the difference is in the ratios and the new mondeo uses a better trany fluid than the focus. But they are the same Tranny. ------------------ Black Focus SE sport. WHERE IS MY DURATEC? you have 780,000 all I want is one. I'm not a player I just crash alot. http://home.att.net/~biker16/ "From this point on the world is in Focus"

06-09-2001, 03:11 PM	#17
Ducman69 I pretend to know everything. Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: van by the river Posts: 18,764	Re: engine noise For tranny noise issue, please contribute to this thread: http://www.teamfocaljet.com/ubb/Foru.../000980-2.html Thanks.

06-09-2001, 03:11 PM	#18
Ducman69 I pretend to know everything. Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: van by the river Posts: 18,764	Re: engine noise Its also the same tranny as in the Contour and Cougar. I've never heard any strange ticking in them. However, lately I have heard a small ticking sound in neutral with the AC on. Someone did figure out how to fix it. I'll have to paste it here but there were three parts and a couple cables adjusted and the noise went away. I'm going to go ahead and move this over to the problems/complaints forum though as I don't think there are any known modifications that increase the performance AND make the tranny shut up. Not sure why this problem only seems to be noticed on the MTX-75s on Foci. Seems odd. ------------------ 00 Ford ZX3 / 96 Ford Cobra 90 Yam FJ1200/ 85 Yam RZ350 / 84 Yam RZ350 Engine Forum Moderator -Chris-

06-10-2001, 12:29 AM	#19
biker16 Moderator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cleveland, OH, USA Posts: 4,710	Re: engine noise the zetec engine in the ZX2 makes the same noise that the Zetec in our cars. but the ZX2 has a mazda tranny not the MXT75 in our focus. It is just a noisy engine. ------------------ Black Focus SE sport. WHERE IS MY DURATEC? you have 780,000 all I want is one. I'm not a player I just crash alot. http://home.att.net/~biker16/ "From this point on the world is in Focus"

06-11-2001, 08:24 AM	#20
John_Deer_5Speed Rookie Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Michigan Posts: 24	Re: engine noise You guys may want to check out the TEAM TECH forum. There is currently a lengthy thread about transmission noise.

06-11-2001, 08:26 AM	#21
John_Deer_5Speed Rookie Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Michigan Posts: 24	Re: engine noise Uh, I guess I just repeated what Ducman had written. Sorry about that.

06-11-2001, 02:41 PM	#22
vad Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: La Mesa, CA Posts: 1,890	Re: engine noise I wanna ask you people something. All this talk about the noisy tranny etc. Yes, it's the transaxle noise. (goes away when you push the clutch in plus tractor/diesel-like noise at low rpm immediately after clutch engagement). No,you're not lagging the engine even at 1500 rpm with light throttle. Yes, I and YOU can close up the windows, turn up the stereo volume and just not pay attention to the noise. Problem solved? Really? Are you asking those questions about the noise just to make sure that every other manual Focus, not just yours, have the problem? And when you do find it out,just go away like there was nothing wrong? Would you buy the car if you were aware of the noise and knew that every manual Foci on the lot was making the noise. If you answer YES, I have no point talking to you any longer. If you answer NO, what are you waiting for? Njbongo got some organizing effort going. Please e-mail him and make your voice heard. Our strength in numbers.

06-11-2001, 04:07 PM	#23
njbongo TEAM Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Hackensack, NJ Posts: 126	Re: engine noise Thanks vad... I am hoping that people are not just reading that post and passing it by. I really want to try and do this, but even the people who posted that they would participate, HAVE NOT EMAILED ME YET !?!?!?! With the exception of Vad. It's funny, everyone who has the noise wants to complain about it to no end, but no-one seems to want to actually do anything about it. Oh, well, I'm still waiting for you emails...all I need right now is an email from you with your full name and email address with 'FOCUS' in the subject line. Once I get like 100 people or more, I can start working on a letter to Ford and gathering up the evidence from everyone. Do you guys wanna talk anout the problems and hope they go away? Not gonna happen. Even if it is as simple as putting a better transaxle fluid in it, FORD is still repsonsible and should do this as a recall. I really don't think it's that easy. have a good one Victor

06-19-2001, 10:51 PM	#24
focidiehard Newbie Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: northern Cal Posts: 3	Re: engine noise I'm no expert, but when you go around a corner and the noise comes I think you should stick the clutch in and ride the corner (california type stop light) speed 20-30 mph, put it in 2nd or 3rd and go. If you need the speed (of course not over 30 mph aprox.) jam it in 2nd to get out of trouble, of course watch your rpm. No red line keep it low if possible but I wouldn't go much over 12 o'clock (unless racing). If it's a long corner at low speed use your judgement don't let it lagg, down shift, speed up, or push in the clutch. I have a zx3 zeetec with 5 spd., in my neighborhood I have to drive 15 mph, I stick it in 2nd and it does just fine even around corners (the key is the clutch use it it's your friend). Hope this helps.

06-20-2001, 01:23 PM	#25
njbongo TEAM Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Hackensack, NJ Posts: 126	Re: engine noise focidiehard, the noise has NOTHING to do with the clutch. The noise comes when accelerating at a low RPM (between 1900-3000 RPMS). This range is NOT lugging the engine, and no matter what you do with the clutch, the noise is still there. It usually only happens in first and second gear. I think you are confusing the issue here. It's not a driver's problem, it's the CAR'S problem. Thank You. Victor

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