Auto to Manual Swap Write Up. Updated April 17, 2005 - Page 3 - The Ford Focus Forum

**jnmarshall** · 06-16-2005, 02:00 PM

You have to take the car, or have the guy come to you. The WDL plugs into your OBD port under the steering, not into the ECU directly.

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you need to have the PATS reprogrammed, do you have to take it to a dealer to have this done, and do you have to take the car or just the ecu box and the key? really need to know i got all the parts and am just about ready to start the project.

**crashmech13** · 06-16-2005, 05:01 PM

ok thanks, the car will not drive, after swap?

**casw** · 08-16-2005, 01:32 PM

hmm can anyone estimate the cost of labor to have the ford dealership do the swap if i had my own parts?

**ZX3FROG** · 08-18-2005, 01:18 AM

A Ford dealership will probably NOT touch this project. U will need to either do it yourself or have a indepentent shop do it.

**ZX3FROG** · 08-18-2005, 01:22 AM

OK

I know it has been awhile since I updated this. I computer took a dump on me and it took me awhile to get it. Plus, I had to get a job!

I got the car back together and everything swapped out and installed. I got the car to crank, but it would not fire up. I finally (after replacing the CRANK POSISTION SENSOR 4 times) found out recently, that if you use the engine that came with your automatic Focus, you must replace the CRANK POSISTION SENSOR MOUNT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The mount is located on the side of the block, UNDERNEATH the FLYWHEEL!!!!!!!! This sucked because I had to remove my tranny, clutch, and flywheel to spend 30 secounds to replace that stupid mount. Now I just have to get the tranny back in and try again. I will update again once the project is complete!

Patrick

**Dudley** · 08-18-2005, 11:22 AM

Cool - glad to hear you're still alive.

That stupid crank sensor mount has driven more than a few people nuts. I know SceviourZX3 recently went through the exact same ordeal as you.

**crashmech13** · 09-07-2005, 11:54 AM

my tuner told me that i will not have to swap out the comp. from the car to the manual comp, is this true?

**PitchBlack_2005** · 09-10-2005, 12:03 PM

Just a quick question.

Hey Frog, you have the Zetec, right? Would this swap work with a Duratec?

**ZX3FROG** · 09-12-2005, 07:01 PM

I don't know if the instructions that I have posted will work 100% with the duratec, but it would be a similar process.

**Majikal** · 09-15-2005, 08:53 AM

hows this goin? are u done? is it runnin? Did u have to swap the whole harness?

**saintg2005** · 10-25-2005, 04:48 PM

Yea I'm about to do a tranny swap on my2000 ZX3 Kona this next summer. Right now I'm just gathering parts. Does anyone know how much of a power difference I'm gonna see out of this? I have cams, cam gears, aEM intake, cat back exhaust, 4-2-1 headers, underdrive pulley, fs chip. Pm me if you need to but i want to know how much i'm gonna see out of it. I'm at 129 SAE now. Also PM me if there are other parts i need or don't need from the list above. Thanks for all your guys' support. This project will be well worth it.

**saintg2005** · 10-25-2005, 04:53 PM

Does anyone know if it matters which ident. number tranny i use for my swap. I'm going auto to manual. Let me know asap

**ZX2Fast** · 02-22-2006, 07:04 PM

Howdy fellas. I am looking to help one of your fellow members with this very swap. It is a ZX3 Zetec. Now, what I would like is the Ford wiring book. I seen one of the schmatics posted in here and the whole book would be helpful. I see the VSS sensors are different but I can fix that with one wire. Since the ATX has a 2 wire and they are common to the MTX, you just need to run a seperate power wire, but I need a PCM pin-out to find out where. I've already done this swap in a ZX2 and completed a step-by-step write up and posted it on Team ZX2, you can veiw it here: http://www.teamzx2.com/index.php?opt...=2&topic=874.0 I was hoping to find something like that here. I was a bit concerned reading through the first two pages that all you were replacing was the CPS sensor, the sensors are probably the same, it is the housing that is different. The MTX housing is shorter and allows the sensor to sit next to the flywheel. The ATX flexplate sits closer to the block so the sensor has to be pulled back. But, I seen this was discovered in later post. If you all would be willing to share your knowledge and possibly donate a Ford wire book for this car, I would be willing to do a write-up like the one I did for the ZX2. With the wire book, I could devise a way that would not require replacing the engine PCM harness.

**all2envyZx3** · 05-04-2006, 10:28 PM

Did you ever end up finishing the project frog?

He hasn't posted since oct 05'

anyone know this guy?

**Gigaherz** · 05-15-2006, 07:59 PM

well, in case anyone was wondering I completed my tranny swap without switching the harness or the ecu/pats and everything seems to be working fine.

I just rewired the harness, disabled the tranny functions with a chip and swapped all the mechanical parts over and wala!! hehe

**secondechomatt** · 05-19-2006, 10:35 AM

could you maybe do a write up, or wiring diagram for us?

**Gigaherz** · 05-19-2006, 04:59 PM

yup, I will try this week maybe.

**SoundoffFocus** · 05-28-2006, 12:47 PM

I am continplating doing the swap in my wagon. Gig, a write up would be great as the less trouble would be better.

Tim

**Gigaherz** · 05-30-2006, 01:38 AM

I know, alot of people have been asking for one. I've just been busy getting the bugs worked out of my car lately and haven't thought of doing the writeup. I'm dropping it off tommorrow for final tuning and dynoing so I'll have more time this week.

**JFord** · 06-29-2006, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Gigaherz

I know, alot of people have been asking for one. I've just been busy getting the bugs worked out of my car lately and haven't thought of doing the writeup. I'm dropping it off tommorrow for final tuning and dynoing so I'll have more time this week.

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**shizznizz980** · 07-02-2006, 09:34 PM

Did frog ever get it to work? Becuase before I try it I need to know for sure that its possible./

**Titan** · 07-05-2006, 05:29 AM

this needs an update....still not clear on parts list, or wireing, or if its any differnet on a zts compaired to the zx3....

**Gigaherz** · 07-11-2006, 07:27 PM

I posted my write up on the wiring how-to finally. Sorry for taking so long to do it.

**MIster2** · 10-05-2006, 09:01 PM

Does anyone have a part number for the shift assembly? Mine broke. I only need the bottom plastic piece.

**Bspourt1** · 02-19-2007, 12:25 PM

my question is how much money would it be to paid somone to swap everything out.

06-16-2005, 05:01 PM	#52 (permalink)
crashmech13 TEAM Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 128	Re: Auto to Manual Swap Write Up. Updated April 1, 2005 ok thanks, the car will not drive, after swap?

08-16-2005, 01:32 PM	#53 (permalink)
casw Newbie Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 2	Re: Auto to Manual Swap Write Up. Updated April 1, 2005 hmm can anyone estimate the cost of labor to have the ford dealership do the swap if i had my own parts?

08-18-2005, 01:18 AM	#54 (permalink)
ZX3FROG TEAM Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 349	Re: Auto to Manual Swap Write Up. Updated April 1, 2005 A Ford dealership will probably NOT touch this project. U will need to either do it yourself or have a indepentent shop do it.

08-18-2005, 01:22 AM	#55 (permalink)
ZX3FROG TEAM Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 349	Re: Auto to Manual Swap Write Up. Updated April 1, 2005 OK I know it has been awhile since I updated this. I computer took a dump on me and it took me awhile to get it. Plus, I had to get a job! I got the car back together and everything swapped out and installed. I got the car to crank, but it would not fire up. I finally (after replacing the CRANK POSISTION SENSOR 4 times) found out recently, that if you use the engine that came with your automatic Focus, you must replace the CRANK POSISTION SENSOR MOUNT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The mount is located on the side of the block, UNDERNEATH the FLYWHEEL!!!!!!!! This sucked because I had to remove my tranny, clutch, and flywheel to spend 30 secounds to replace that stupid mount. Now I just have to get the tranny back in and try again. I will update again once the project is complete! Patrick

08-18-2005, 11:22 AM	#56 (permalink)
Dudley Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Syracuse, NY Posts: 2,645	Re: Auto to Manual Swap Write Up. Updated April 1, 2005 Cool - glad to hear you're still alive. That stupid crank sensor mount has driven more than a few people nuts. I know SceviourZX3 recently went through the exact same ordeal as you.

09-07-2005, 11:54 AM	#57 (permalink)
crashmech13 TEAM Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 128	Re: Auto to Manual Swap Write Up. Updated April 1, 2005 my tuner told me that i will not have to swap out the comp. from the car to the manual comp, is this true?

09-10-2005, 12:03 PM	#58 (permalink)
PitchBlack_2005 Newbie Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 4	Re: Auto to Manual Swap Write Up. Updated April 1, 2005 Just a quick question. Hey Frog, you have the Zetec, right? Would this swap work with a Duratec?

09-12-2005, 07:01 PM	#59 (permalink)
ZX3FROG TEAM Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 349	Re: Auto to Manual Swap Write Up. Updated April 1, 2005 I don't know if the instructions that I have posted will work 100% with the duratec, but it would be a similar process.

09-15-2005, 08:53 AM	#60 (permalink)
Majikal MAKE IT RAIN! ... is that like $@(3+/ a $!@" and @)(+/#? Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: West Hartford, CT Posts: 11,790	Re: Auto to Manual Swap Write Up. Updated April 1, 2005 hows this goin? are u done? is it runnin? Did u have to swap the whole harness?

10-25-2005, 04:48 PM	#61 (permalink)
saintg2005 Rookie Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 45	Re: Auto to Manual Swap Write Up. Updated April 1, 2005 Yea I'm about to do a tranny swap on my2000 ZX3 Kona this next summer. Right now I'm just gathering parts. Does anyone know how much of a power difference I'm gonna see out of this? I have cams, cam gears, aEM intake, cat back exhaust, 4-2-1 headers, underdrive pulley, fs chip. Pm me if you need to but i want to know how much i'm gonna see out of it. I'm at 129 SAE now. Also PM me if there are other parts i need or don't need from the list above. Thanks for all your guys' support. This project will be well worth it.

10-25-2005, 04:53 PM	#62 (permalink)
saintg2005 Rookie Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 45	Re: Auto to Manual Swap Write Up. Updated April 17, 2005 Does anyone know if it matters which ident. number tranny i use for my swap. I'm going auto to manual. Let me know asap

02-22-2006, 07:04 PM	#63 (permalink)
ZX2Fast TEAM Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Central Indiana Posts: 200	Re: Auto to Manual Swap Write Up. Updated April 17, 2005 Howdy fellas. I am looking to help one of your fellow members with this very swap. It is a ZX3 Zetec. Now, what I would like is the Ford wiring book. I seen one of the schmatics posted in here and the whole book would be helpful. I see the VSS sensors are different but I can fix that with one wire. Since the ATX has a 2 wire and they are common to the MTX, you just need to run a seperate power wire, but I need a PCM pin-out to find out where. I've already done this swap in a ZX2 and completed a step-by-step write up and posted it on Team ZX2, you can veiw it here: http://www.teamzx2.com/index.php?opt...=2&topic=874.0 I was hoping to find something like that here. I was a bit concerned reading through the first two pages that all you were replacing was the CPS sensor, the sensors are probably the same, it is the housing that is different. The MTX housing is shorter and allows the sensor to sit next to the flywheel. The ATX flexplate sits closer to the block so the sensor has to be pulled back. But, I seen this was discovered in later post. If you all would be willing to share your knowledge and possibly donate a Ford wire book for this car, I would be willing to do a write-up like the one I did for the ZX2. With the wire book, I could devise a way that would not require replacing the engine PCM harness. __________________ 98 ZX2, T3 Super 60, FMIC, Cobra MAF, Ford Racing 42#/hr injectors, SVT fuel pump, SCT Xcal2, Findanza flywheel, Spec clutch, Trubendz exhaust, B&M shifter, FAZE boost/vac, voltmeter, A/F, and oil pressure guages. Eibach springs, Tokico struts, 19mm RSB, Ractive strut brace, and ES bushings. MySpace Page

05-04-2006, 10:28 PM	#64 (permalink)
all2envyZx3 Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Grand Junction,CO Posts: 2,288	Re: Auto to Manual Swap Write Up. Updated April 17, 2005 Did you ever end up finishing the project frog? He hasn't posted since oct 05' anyone know this guy? __________________ 02' 3-Door SONIC BLUE SVT Focus #3062 of 4788 built

05-15-2006, 07:59 PM	#65 (permalink)
Gigaherz [FJ] Specialist Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Earth Posts: 9,025	Re: Auto to Manual Swap Write Up. Updated April 17, 2005 well, in case anyone was wondering I completed my tranny swap without switching the harness or the ecu/pats and everything seems to be working fine. I just rewired the harness, disabled the tranny functions with a chip and swapped all the mechanical parts over and wala!! hehe __________________ One day, I will have an e-owl in my sig. On that day I will have "arrived".

05-19-2006, 10:35 AM	#66 (permalink)
secondechomatt [FJ] Specialist Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Trenton, MI. Posts: 5,293	Re: Auto to Manual Swap Write Up. Updated April 17, 2005 could you maybe do a write up, or wiring diagram for us? __________________ BRONCO BFG/RUST/WHITETRASH/TREEFAIL "The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, "I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it."

05-19-2006, 04:59 PM	#67 (permalink)
Gigaherz [FJ] Specialist Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Earth Posts: 9,025	Re: Auto to Manual Swap Write Up. Updated April 17, 2005 yup, I will try this week maybe. __________________ One day, I will have an e-owl in my sig. On that day I will have "arrived".

05-28-2006, 12:47 PM	#68 (permalink)
SoundoffFocus Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Laramie WY Posts: 2,374	Re: Auto to Manual Swap Write Up. Updated April 17, 2005 I am continplating doing the swap in my wagon. Gig, a write up would be great as the less trouble would be better. Tim __________________ 08 Mercury Mariner Duratec 3.0 V6 4x4 Drag racing is for fast cars autocrossing is for fast drivers Team Focaljet: 5280 2002 USACi World Champion Jetfest 05 particapant

05-30-2006, 01:38 AM	#69 (permalink)
Gigaherz [FJ] Specialist Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Earth Posts: 9,025	Re: Auto to Manual Swap Write Up. Updated April 17, 2005 I know, alot of people have been asking for one. I've just been busy getting the bugs worked out of my car lately and haven't thought of doing the writeup. I'm dropping it off tommorrow for final tuning and dynoing so I'll have more time this week. __________________ One day, I will have an e-owl in my sig. On that day I will have "arrived".

07-02-2006, 09:34 PM	#71 (permalink)
shizznizz980 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 61	Re: Auto to Manual Swap Write Up. Updated April 17, 2005 Did frog ever get it to work? Becuase before I try it I need to know for sure that its possible./

07-05-2006, 05:29 AM	#72 (permalink)
Titan Newbie Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 1	Re: Auto to Manual Swap Write Up. Updated April 17, 2005 this needs an update....still not clear on parts list, or wireing, or if its any differnet on a zts compaired to the zx3.... Last edited by Titan; 07-05-2006 at 05:40 AM.

07-11-2006, 07:27 PM	#73 (permalink)
Gigaherz [FJ] Specialist Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Earth Posts: 9,025	Re: Auto to Manual Swap Write Up. Updated April 17, 2005 I posted my write up on the wiring how-to finally. Sorry for taking so long to do it. __________________ One day, I will have an e-owl in my sig. On that day I will have "arrived".

10-05-2006, 09:01 PM	#74 (permalink)
MIster2 TEAM Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Arlington, TX USA Posts: 193	Re: Auto to Manual Swap Write Up. Updated April 17, 2005 Does anyone have a part number for the shift assembly? Mine broke. I only need the bottom plastic piece.

02-19-2007, 12:25 PM	#75 (permalink)
Bspourt1 TEAM Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Cranston, RI Posts: 118	Re: Auto to Manual Swap Write Up. Updated April 1, 2005 my question is how much money would it be to paid somone to swap everything out.

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