2001 DHOC Autotranny big boom,crack,bang

[the bat]

Hi gang,a FNG needs help,after building racecars for the last 40 plus year,I still know near nothing about this new to me stuff.
I got used car 1.5 months ago for my new dayly[no luck],2001 Focus ZTS auto transmission DOHC ,I don't mind doing my own work if I have some info,even like rebuilding auto trannys,but this sounded like some hard parts broke,maybe plantaties gone[lot of banging] .Car no longer moves,but trys a little in dr.
Here what I'd like to know,were is best place to get another 1s4p-da or if i try to rebuild this DOHC broke one,will inside hard parts be same from SHOC tranny or [what other]even if out side is not same?[used as hard part doner?] could be there totaly def?even inside?
Thanks
Miami Fl.

[pzev04boy]

Get a used transmission. Car-part.com It's inexpensive and to be quite honest the 4f27e is a very reliable transmission. Failures are rare. You probably had the one that was built at 4:59 on a friday.

[the bat]

Thanks,Car-part.com looks like a great spot to check. I didn't know about that site.

[Lancer211]

Originally Posted by pzev04boy

Get a used transmission. Car-part.com It's inexpensive and to be quite honest the 4f27e is a very reliable transmission. Failures are rare. You probably had the one that was built at 4:59 on a friday.

Reliable? Even the early edition?? (Pre 03-04)

[the bat]

Reliable? Maybe just not this one.
All i know is this 2001 ZTS only had 68000 and looked like it had been kept inside with no dings,dents /stains or anything,like showroom even under the hood,super clean car ,so got it thinking it had very good care even for the low miles,and i checked for codes too and car facts. With in a few days it started acting slow shifting[rev up some between shift to 3th and some times 4th, when it did it's big bang a month and 2 weeks later,was just taking off fairly EZ and going into 2 ,have not and didn't push it. now it's got nothing.
Thanks for the pointer.

[Zoomer69]

The 4f27e automatic does NOT tolerate abuse very well. Ford built it *just* strong enough to handle the Zetec's stock power output, and not much more. When the 2.3L Duratec came along, they had to beef it up to handle the extra power output.

Many, many people on the forums who's done power mods to their automatic Focus will sooner or later end up having to rebuild the transmission. FocalJet is littered with people who've gone through this with the automatics, and they end up doing a manual swap, doing a performance rebuild on the automatic, or getting rid of the car.

If you just plan to use this as a commuter, you'll probably be OK with a stock replacement tranny, being careful not to abuse it. If you want reassurance the tranny will last the life of the car, I'd seek out a performance rebuild.

[illinipo]

Originally Posted by Zoomer69

FocalJet is littered with people who've gone through this with the automatics, and they end up doing a manual swap,

[the bat]

Thanks, so is it posible to use parts out of inside any 4f27e?{but outer case is def? or what],like getting tuffer parts from 2.3L Duratec,and put them in[if that is needed]2001 tranny case? can that be done?
4f27e stands for basic inside tranny design,same on all Focus autotrannys? but for up grades in tuffer parts?
Maybe nothing is simple any more.
There was no power shifting going on ,it just broke.

[Lancer211]

Originally Posted by the bat

Thanks, so is it posible to use parts out of inside any 4f27e?{but outer case is def? or what],like getting tuffer parts from 2.3L Duratec,and put them in[if that is needed]2001 tranny case? can that be done?
4f27e stands for basic inside tranny design,same on all Focus autotrannys? but for up grades in tuffer parts?
Maybe nothing is simple any more.
There was no power shifting going on ,it just broke.

Beginning in 2003, the 4f27e transmission was strengthened to be able to handle the higher powered D2.3L engine, but some older auto trannies still slipped through the cracks and made it into some 2003-2004 Foci. For the most part, though, you'd be better off trying to find a used 2004 Zetec transmission. It's more likely to have the upgraded high-energy clutches that will last much longer.

[the bat]

Thanks.
2004 Zetec transmission trans #? I was thinking all 2004 were D2.3 motors?
Sorry just don't know that much about 2004 Focus modals

[Lancer211]

Originally Posted by the bat

Thanks.
2004 Zetec transmission trans #? I was thinking all 2004 were D2.3 motors?
Sorry just don't know that much about 2004 Focus modals

No. 2004 was the last year for the 2.0L Zetec and 2.0L SPI engines, and the second year of the 2.3L Duratec engine. 2005 and later, the Zetec and SPI engines were replaced by the 2.0L Duratec.

2004 was the first year the 2.3L Duratec was available outside states with strict pollution controls. 2003 was the first year the 2.3L Duratec was available at all.

All 2004 Duratec Foci were 2.3L Duratec engines, but not all 2004 Foci engines were Duratecs.

[blackbird]

Finding a good, low mileage used transaxle is probably going to be easier and less hassle than trying to buy parts and rebuild the one you have (especially if it would be your first time working on this particular transmission type). More than likely much less expensive too. There's quite a few Focus starting to pop up at the self-serve type salvage yards here in California and I could pull a trans for under a hundred and fifty bucks. Just to buy new rebuild parts like the clutch packs, seals, and other components could end up running you more, especially if hard parts were physically damaged and broken. If you do find another trans it still might be interesting to poke around your old one to find out what let go.

[the bat]

Thanks sounds like good addvise,the banging that it made when it stopped working sounded like ether front or rear planet blow or both,I will pull it apart latter to let ya'll know just what blow and post that.
Thanks for input.
So far here in Miami i'm only finding some 2003 DOHC autotrannys at about $350 to $400 at local junkys,I'll keep looking for 2004

[blackbird]

That's really not too bad if they're pulling it for you and especially if they offer a short warranty on it. Also saves on shipping which can be a hassle on the automatics since they're a little bulkier and heavier than the 5-speed.

[Lancer211]

Originally Posted by the bat

Thanks sounds like good addvise,the banging that it made when it stopped working sounded like ether front or rear planet blow or both,I will pull it apart latter to let ya'll know just what blow and post that.
Thanks for input.
So far here in Miami i'm only finding some 2003 DOHC autotrannys at about $350 to $400 at local junkys,I'll keep looking for 2004

Well.... you'd be better off going with a 2004 than a 2003, but the 2003 is honestly probably going to be fine.

You could try talking them down to $300, since there's no way of knowing if the tranny in question got the upgraded clutches or not.