Window Net /NASA CCR/ Roll Cage Question - Focaljet

**K STYLEZ** · 06-11-2008, 09:52 AM

With all of the recent roll over discussions I'd like to add a net to my Focus that will be competing in the TT classes at this upcoming event. It seems the CCR states these MUST be affixed to a roll cage. In the past I've used nets and welded the top points to inner roof structure and the bottom to inner door structure, but that was for limited scrutiny circle track stuff. I plan to complete a simple roll bar for this event, but wasnt counting on installing anything forward of the main hoop. I can see putting in a forward hoop for the top mounting, but as this car does see some limited street use, I really dont want to have a horizontal or diagonal door bar impeding ingress/egress.

Is there any slack in the window net install? Can I get away with just welding in to existing structure? Can I install just the forward hoop and do the bottom mounts to inner door? Leave it out all together? Or do I bite the bullet and do the whole cage thing...

Thanx in advance.

**brads03zx3** · 06-11-2008, 11:19 AM

Window net is not required for TT, but if it is used, you must install it correctly.

**K STYLEZ** · 06-11-2008, 11:26 AM

Right, I know its not required, I'd just like to have it.

**Ted7rns** · 06-11-2008, 12:40 PM

Make sure you wear Nomax when you have a window net in the car. Window nets cannot be installed on the door. they can only be installed on the roll cage.

If you only have roll bar or a roll-cage without side bars, I don't know how you'll be able to install one correctly. Remember eventhough you don't have to install a window net for TT, if you do install on it must follow NASA CCRs.

**K STYLEZ** · 06-11-2008, 01:38 PM

^^^ Right. Kinda what I thought. I have a decision to make then...

**sleeperlove** · 06-11-2008, 04:55 PM

Are you TTing your turbo focus?

**K STYLEZ** · 06-11-2008, 07:25 PM

Yessir.

Lotsa new toys too.

**sleeperlove** · 06-11-2008, 08:55 PM

Awesome! Glad it won't be in my class

**BadIdea** · 06-13-2008, 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by K STYLEZ

Yessir.

Lotsa new toys too.

Are you guys camping again?

**K STYLEZ** · 06-13-2008, 12:02 PM

I think so. At least I know I will be, a few of my squad my be forced to succumb to their marital status and get a hotel room...

Wimps!

Hopefully there the evenings will have a little less precipitation than last time!

**sleeperlove** · 06-14-2008, 10:46 AM

I will be camping as well. Are you motorhome camping or camping camping?

**68 Touring Car** · 06-16-2008, 07:58 AM

I will be camping at the track also.

**K STYLEZ** · 06-16-2008, 09:23 AM

I'll have our van and some tents I think.

06-11-2008, 09:52 AM	#1
K STYLEZ Premier Sponsor Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Chi-town, IL Posts: 2,288	Window Net /NASA CCR/ Roll Cage Question With all of the recent roll over discussions I'd like to add a net to my Focus that will be competing in the TT classes at this upcoming event. It seems the CCR states these MUST be affixed to a roll cage. In the past I've used nets and welded the top points to inner roof structure and the bottom to inner door structure, but that was for limited scrutiny circle track stuff. I plan to complete a simple roll bar for this event, but wasnt counting on installing anything forward of the main hoop. I can see putting in a forward hoop for the top mounting, but as this car does see some limited street use, I really dont want to have a horizontal or diagonal door bar impeding ingress/egress. Is there any slack in the window net install? Can I get away with just welding in to existing structure? Can I install just the forward hoop and do the bottom mounts to inner door? Leave it out all together? Or do I bite the bullet and do the whole cage thing... Thanx in advance. __________________ Never interrupt your opponent while he's making a mistake. JOIN US AT CRUISE JAM 3 - SATURDAY AUGUST 30TH - SPRING GROVE, IL www.massivespeedsystem.com -The Midwest's Focus Power Source-

06-11-2008, 11:19 AM	#2
brads03zx3 [FJ] Specialist Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: California Posts: 8,455	Re: Window Net /NASA CCR/ Roll Cage Question Window net is not required for TT, but if it is used, you must install it correctly. __________________ Mountain Tested----'03 zetec DuraMonster---'03 duratec ZX3 vs MNTN - 9/0 & ZX3 vs TRACK - 4/1 *JCM Racing #88* Bouncing Back---Bigger, Faster, Stronger Executive Head Chief Administrative Supporting Subordinate Supervisor - Vacuum Vulture Racing

06-11-2008, 11:26 AM	#3
K STYLEZ Premier Sponsor Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Chi-town, IL Posts: 2,288	Re: Window Net /NASA CCR/ Roll Cage Question Right, I know its not required, I'd just like to have it. __________________ Never interrupt your opponent while he's making a mistake. JOIN US AT CRUISE JAM 3 - SATURDAY AUGUST 30TH - SPRING GROVE, IL www.massivespeedsystem.com -The Midwest's Focus Power Source-

06-11-2008, 12:40 PM	#4
Ted7rns Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Palmdale, California Posts: 3,999	Re: Window Net /NASA CCR/ Roll Cage Question Make sure you wear Nomax when you have a window net in the car. Window nets cannot be installed on the door. they can only be installed on the roll cage. If you only have roll bar or a roll-cage without side bars, I don't know how you'll be able to install one correctly. Remember eventhough you don't have to install a window net for TT, if you do install on it must follow NASA CCRs. __________________ NASA Spec Focus Series Director \| NASA HPDE Instructor 2002 Ford Focus ZX3 Malibu Blue <23> NASA is dedicated to aspiring or accomplished Focus racers and track enthusiast.

06-11-2008, 01:38 PM	#5
K STYLEZ Premier Sponsor Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Chi-town, IL Posts: 2,288	Re: Window Net /NASA CCR/ Roll Cage Question ^^^ Right. Kinda what I thought. I have a decision to make then... __________________ Never interrupt your opponent while he's making a mistake. JOIN US AT CRUISE JAM 3 - SATURDAY AUGUST 30TH - SPRING GROVE, IL www.massivespeedsystem.com -The Midwest's Focus Power Source-

06-11-2008, 04:55 PM	#6
sleeperlove Sleeper Cars Suck Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: in the dirt Posts: 8,030	Re: Window Net /NASA CCR/ Roll Cage Question Are you TTing your turbo focus? __________________ A nursery teacher was observing her classroom of children while they were drawing. She would occasionally walk around to see each child's work. As she got to one little girl who was working diligently, she asked what the drawing was. The girl replied, "I'm drawing God." The teacher paused and said, "But no one knows what God looks like." Without looking up from her drawing, the girl replied, "They will in a minute."

06-11-2008, 07:25 PM	#7
K STYLEZ Premier Sponsor Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Chi-town, IL Posts: 2,288	Re: Window Net /NASA CCR/ Roll Cage Question Yessir. Lotsa new toys too. __________________ Never interrupt your opponent while he's making a mistake. JOIN US AT CRUISE JAM 3 - SATURDAY AUGUST 30TH - SPRING GROVE, IL www.massivespeedsystem.com -The Midwest's Focus Power Source-

06-11-2008, 08:55 PM	#8
sleeperlove Sleeper Cars Suck Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: in the dirt Posts: 8,030	Re: Window Net /NASA CCR/ Roll Cage Question Awesome! Glad it won't be in my class __________________ A nursery teacher was observing her classroom of children while they were drawing. She would occasionally walk around to see each child's work. As she got to one little girl who was working diligently, she asked what the drawing was. The girl replied, "I'm drawing God." The teacher paused and said, "But no one knows what God looks like." Without looking up from her drawing, the girl replied, "They will in a minute."

06-13-2008, 12:02 PM	#10
K STYLEZ Premier Sponsor Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Chi-town, IL Posts: 2,288	Re: Window Net /NASA CCR/ Roll Cage Question I think so. At least I know I will be, a few of my squad my be forced to succumb to their marital status and get a hotel room... Wimps! Hopefully there the evenings will have a little less precipitation than last time! __________________ Never interrupt your opponent while he's making a mistake. JOIN US AT CRUISE JAM 3 - SATURDAY AUGUST 30TH - SPRING GROVE, IL www.massivespeedsystem.com -The Midwest's Focus Power Source-

06-14-2008, 10:46 AM	#11
sleeperlove Sleeper Cars Suck Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: in the dirt Posts: 8,030	Re: Window Net /NASA CCR/ Roll Cage Question I will be camping as well. Are you motorhome camping or camping camping? __________________ A nursery teacher was observing her classroom of children while they were drawing. She would occasionally walk around to see each child's work. As she got to one little girl who was working diligently, she asked what the drawing was. The girl replied, "I'm drawing God." The teacher paused and said, "But no one knows what God looks like." Without looking up from her drawing, the girl replied, "They will in a minute."

06-16-2008, 07:58 AM	#12
68 Touring Car Premier Sponsor Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Motor City Posts: 1,120	Re: Window Net /NASA CCR/ Roll Cage Question I will be camping at the track also. __________________ Leo NASA Spec Focus Series Director www.capaldiracing.com "Quitters Never Win"

06-16-2008, 09:23 AM	#13
K STYLEZ Premier Sponsor Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Chi-town, IL Posts: 2,288	Re: Window Net /NASA CCR/ Roll Cage Question I'll have our van and some tents I think. __________________ Never interrupt your opponent while he's making a mistake. JOIN US AT CRUISE JAM 3 - SATURDAY AUGUST 30TH - SPRING GROVE, IL www.massivespeedsystem.com -The Midwest's Focus Power Source-

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