28.5 mm rearsway bar - Focaljet

**j0eyabs** · 10-06-2007, 07:58 PM

I noticed recently that one of my rear C brackets for my 28.5mm broke. Anyonw know when i can get a replacement one? Steeda said call Addco so i did and the kit they sent me is too small to fit around the bar and thats the only one they make. Where can i get a replacement bracket and bushing without having to get the whole kit.

**j0eyabs** · 10-08-2007, 02:24 PM

can anyone help me.

**Mjasinski** · 10-08-2007, 06:57 PM

maybe a dealer, would a stock one work?

**j0eyabs** · 10-09-2007, 09:16 AM

**Mjasinski** · 10-09-2007, 09:23 AM

ok sorry.....

**Nliiitend1** · 10-10-2007, 04:41 PM

Perhaps you should use this opportunity to switch to a more appropriately-sized rear sway bar

Sorry I can't be of more help...

**j0eyabs** · 10-10-2007, 05:30 PM

I thought about it but a more appropriate size would be 30mm or more which no one makes. I just went ahead and ordered a whole new bar from steeda.

**Nliiitend1** · 10-10-2007, 05:33 PM

I was actually referring to the fact that the 28.5 mm bar is way too big, IMO...

**j0eyabs** · 10-10-2007, 07:44 PM

You would think so, but having it on my car for now 3 years and about 50,000 miles. It is a great thing, it is far better than stock. This item made me much more confident going around corners. I feel this item at 100 dollars is alot better than buying a 25mm H&R for 180 dollars.

**Nliiitend1** · 10-10-2007, 07:59 PM

Well, I'm glad you're happy with the bar. I just have no desire to make my fantastically independently suspended rear end any less independently suspended than it needs to be, and I'm at a loss for understanding why anyone would want to do such a thing, but to each his own.

If I wanted a twist-beam rear suspension, I would have bought a Mk III or IV Golf instead of my first Focus...

**only_in_a_domestic** · 10-11-2007, 01:21 AM

i broke my c clamp a while back also

just call em. they will send you another

**j0eyabs** · 10-11-2007, 01:28 AM

mine did the same but they wouldnt give me the parts. they said to call some other place and they didnt have them either.

Also what is wrong with a 28mm bar?

**zetecgt** · 10-11-2007, 08:40 AM

Supposedly, with anything over 24 mm you're running the risk of messing up your rear control arms. They are not strong enough for a bar that sturdy.

Steeda also suggests running a larger front bar. They say that a rear bar that large could produce oversteer.

I personally have the Progress 26mm and so far so good, but we'll see over time what can happen.

dave.

**Nliiitend1** · 10-11-2007, 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by j0eyabs

mine did the same but they wouldnt give me the parts. they said to call some other place and they didnt have them either.

Also what is wrong with a 28mm bar?

Read my last post. Huge bars effectively turn your rear suspension into a really mass-inefficient twist-beam setup...You get all of the crappy characteristics of a twistbeam with probably almost twice the mass.

Sway bars should be used to fine-tune a setup, and IMO a 28.5 mm sway bar too big for that task.

I'm a fan of providing as much roll-stiffness as possible by adding spring rate to the independent suspension, rather than providing roll-stiffness through effectively disabling the independent character of the setup (which is what a really big RSB does - it ties the 2 independent sections together much more tightly than they should be and allows less independent movement, just like a twist-beam rear setup).

There is a decent sticky in the Suspension Forum with a link it in that explains pretty simply how exactly swaybars work:

http://www.houseofthud.com/cartech/swaybars.htm

The Road/Rally/Auto-X Forum also has some great links to articles about different chassis setups and how they affect driving dynamics. Check it out when you have time and if what I'm saying doesn't make sense to you now, it probably will be a little clearer after some reading.

http://forums.focaljet.com/road-rall...ud-6-05-a.html

Oh, and zetecgt makes another good point as well: Big RSBs have been known to "oil-can" the rear LCAs where the endlinks mount and cause rear LCA failure.

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**j0eyabs** · 10-11-2007, 12:38 PM

ok will look at it thanks

**j0eyabs** · 10-11-2007, 12:39 PM

oh, but if its so bad why would steeda sell it and use it on their car?

**zetecgt** · 10-11-2007, 01:26 PM

theirs car is a RACE CAR....not a street driven daily driver used to haul the kids to soccer practice......

I would assume that they have changed out the control arms to something a bit sturdier than the OEM arms....

....or that would be my guess...unless Larry or HH decides to come in and add some insight.

dave.

**j0eyabs** · 10-11-2007, 06:34 PM

so the SVT uses the same rear control arms as the regular focus.

**Mjasinski** · 10-11-2007, 10:17 PM

no they are reinforced from what i understand

**Nliiitend1** · 10-11-2007, 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mjasinski

no they are reinforced from what i understand

MOST are, but not all of them. I would be uncomfortable using a 28.5 mm bar on even SVT arms with anything but the stiffest of springs...

**Mjasinski** · 10-12-2007, 10:22 AM

yeah for sure...

**larryinfl** · 10-23-2007, 07:37 AM

Who's bars are those? If you are having any issues at all with our bars and clamps breaking PM me and I'll get you taken care of.

But it sounds like you have other brands of bars and they are breaking. In that case Adco would be a good choice, or try going back to the company you bought it from.

Don't forget you guys can PM me anytime you need anything!

Larry

10-06-2007, 07:58 PM	#1
j0eyabs Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: San Leandro Posts: 1,193	28.5 mm rearsway bar I noticed recently that one of my rear C brackets for my 28.5mm broke. Anyonw know when i can get a replacement one? Steeda said call Addco so i did and the kit they sent me is too small to fit around the bar and thats the only one they make. Where can i get a replacement bracket and bushing without having to get the whole kit. __________________ 2003 SVT Focus, CD Silver base model SVT, AEM SR, Steeda Strut Brace, Steeda STS, Clear corners, Hella Head Lights, Focus Sport Tune, 67mm TB, SS brake lines, KYB AGX shocks, MBRP Exhaust, Steeda Springs, Screamin Demon Coil & Wires, Focussport SCT tune, Steeda 28.5mm rear sway bar, OZ Record 18's, and Blue Laminex on the headlights and fogs. 3964/3985

10-08-2007, 02:24 PM	#2
j0eyabs Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: San Leandro Posts: 1,193	Re: 28.5 mm rearsway bar can anyone help me. __________________ 2003 SVT Focus, CD Silver base model SVT, AEM SR, Steeda Strut Brace, Steeda STS, Clear corners, Hella Head Lights, Focus Sport Tune, 67mm TB, SS brake lines, KYB AGX shocks, MBRP Exhaust, Steeda Springs, Screamin Demon Coil & Wires, Focussport SCT tune, Steeda 28.5mm rear sway bar, OZ Record 18's, and Blue Laminex on the headlights and fogs. 3964/3985

10-08-2007, 06:57 PM	#3
Mjasinski Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Saint Paul, MN Posts: 1,459	Re: 28.5 mm rearsway bar maybe a dealer, would a stock one work? __________________ 2000 Autumn Orange ZX3 "Op Orange" 2000 CD Silver ZX3 "Bullet" the beater My Space

10-09-2007, 09:16 AM	#4
j0eyabs Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: San Leandro Posts: 1,193	Re: 28.5 mm rearsway bar no __________________ 2003 SVT Focus, CD Silver base model SVT, AEM SR, Steeda Strut Brace, Steeda STS, Clear corners, Hella Head Lights, Focus Sport Tune, 67mm TB, SS brake lines, KYB AGX shocks, MBRP Exhaust, Steeda Springs, Screamin Demon Coil & Wires, Focussport SCT tune, Steeda 28.5mm rear sway bar, OZ Record 18's, and Blue Laminex on the headlights and fogs. 3964/3985

10-09-2007, 09:23 AM	#5
Mjasinski Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Saint Paul, MN Posts: 1,459	Re: 28.5 mm rearsway bar ok sorry..... __________________ 2000 Autumn Orange ZX3 "Op Orange" 2000 CD Silver ZX3 "Bullet" the beater My Space

10-10-2007, 04:41 PM	#6
Nliiitend1 It's NOT progressive. IT'S LINEAR!!!! Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: 32224 Posts: 4,113	Re: 28.5 mm rearsway bar Perhaps you should use this opportunity to switch to a more appropriately-sized rear sway bar Sorry I can't be of more help... __________________ RIP: Modified Liquid Grey S2: 5-speed RIP: Modified 2001 White ZX3: 5-speed 2008 MS3 GT w/ no options

10-10-2007, 05:30 PM	#7
j0eyabs Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: San Leandro Posts: 1,193	Re: 28.5 mm rearsway bar I thought about it but a more appropriate size would be 30mm or more which no one makes. I just went ahead and ordered a whole new bar from steeda. __________________ 2003 SVT Focus, CD Silver base model SVT, AEM SR, Steeda Strut Brace, Steeda STS, Clear corners, Hella Head Lights, Focus Sport Tune, 67mm TB, SS brake lines, KYB AGX shocks, MBRP Exhaust, Steeda Springs, Screamin Demon Coil & Wires, Focussport SCT tune, Steeda 28.5mm rear sway bar, OZ Record 18's, and Blue Laminex on the headlights and fogs. 3964/3985

10-10-2007, 05:33 PM	#8
Nliiitend1 It's NOT progressive. IT'S LINEAR!!!! Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: 32224 Posts: 4,113	Re: 28.5 mm rearsway bar I was actually referring to the fact that the 28.5 mm bar is way too big, IMO... __________________ RIP: Modified Liquid Grey S2: 5-speed RIP: Modified 2001 White ZX3: 5-speed 2008 MS3 GT w/ no options

10-10-2007, 07:44 PM	#9
j0eyabs Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: San Leandro Posts: 1,193	Re: 28.5 mm rearsway bar You would think so, but having it on my car for now 3 years and about 50,000 miles. It is a great thing, it is far better than stock. This item made me much more confident going around corners. I feel this item at 100 dollars is alot better than buying a 25mm H&R for 180 dollars. __________________ 2003 SVT Focus, CD Silver base model SVT, AEM SR, Steeda Strut Brace, Steeda STS, Clear corners, Hella Head Lights, Focus Sport Tune, 67mm TB, SS brake lines, KYB AGX shocks, MBRP Exhaust, Steeda Springs, Screamin Demon Coil & Wires, Focussport SCT tune, Steeda 28.5mm rear sway bar, OZ Record 18's, and Blue Laminex on the headlights and fogs. 3964/3985

10-10-2007, 07:59 PM	#10
Nliiitend1 It's NOT progressive. IT'S LINEAR!!!! Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: 32224 Posts: 4,113	Re: 28.5 mm rearsway bar Well, I'm glad you're happy with the bar. I just have no desire to make my fantastically independently suspended rear end any less independently suspended than it needs to be, and I'm at a loss for understanding why anyone would want to do such a thing, but to each his own. If I wanted a twist-beam rear suspension, I would have bought a Mk III or IV Golf instead of my first Focus... __________________ RIP: Modified Liquid Grey S2: 5-speed RIP: Modified 2001 White ZX3: 5-speed 2008 MS3 GT w/ no options

10-11-2007, 01:21 AM	#11
only_in_a_domestic Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 1,481	Re: 28.5 mm rearsway bar i broke my c clamp a while back also just call em. they will send you another __________________ weight reduction= no sig:-)

10-11-2007, 01:28 AM	#12
j0eyabs Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: San Leandro Posts: 1,193	Re: 28.5 mm rearsway bar mine did the same but they wouldnt give me the parts. they said to call some other place and they didnt have them either. Also what is wrong with a 28mm bar? __________________ 2003 SVT Focus, CD Silver base model SVT, AEM SR, Steeda Strut Brace, Steeda STS, Clear corners, Hella Head Lights, Focus Sport Tune, 67mm TB, SS brake lines, KYB AGX shocks, MBRP Exhaust, Steeda Springs, Screamin Demon Coil & Wires, Focussport SCT tune, Steeda 28.5mm rear sway bar, OZ Record 18's, and Blue Laminex on the headlights and fogs. 3964/3985

10-11-2007, 08:40 AM	#13
zetecgt EXTREME douche pickle! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: $@N @NT0N10, T3X@$ Posts: 7,023	Re: 28.5 mm rearsway bar Supposedly, with anything over 24 mm you're running the risk of messing up your rear control arms. They are not strong enough for a bar that sturdy. Steeda also suggests running a larger front bar. They say that a rear bar that large could produce oversteer. I personally have the Progress 26mm and so far so good, but we'll see over time what can happen. dave. __________________ Ford Owners Club of San Antonio Oh! Don't mind me. I'm just upping my post count..... x p Making people reply with "WTF" since 2004

10-11-2007, 12:38 PM	#15
j0eyabs Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: San Leandro Posts: 1,193	Re: 28.5 mm rearsway bar ok will look at it thanks __________________ 2003 SVT Focus, CD Silver base model SVT, AEM SR, Steeda Strut Brace, Steeda STS, Clear corners, Hella Head Lights, Focus Sport Tune, 67mm TB, SS brake lines, KYB AGX shocks, MBRP Exhaust, Steeda Springs, Screamin Demon Coil & Wires, Focussport SCT tune, Steeda 28.5mm rear sway bar, OZ Record 18's, and Blue Laminex on the headlights and fogs. 3964/3985

10-11-2007, 12:39 PM	#16
j0eyabs Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: San Leandro Posts: 1,193	Re: 28.5 mm rearsway bar oh, but if its so bad why would steeda sell it and use it on their car? __________________ 2003 SVT Focus, CD Silver base model SVT, AEM SR, Steeda Strut Brace, Steeda STS, Clear corners, Hella Head Lights, Focus Sport Tune, 67mm TB, SS brake lines, KYB AGX shocks, MBRP Exhaust, Steeda Springs, Screamin Demon Coil & Wires, Focussport SCT tune, Steeda 28.5mm rear sway bar, OZ Record 18's, and Blue Laminex on the headlights and fogs. 3964/3985

10-11-2007, 01:26 PM	#17
zetecgt EXTREME douche pickle! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: $@N @NT0N10, T3X@$ Posts: 7,023	Re: 28.5 mm rearsway bar theirs car is a RACE CAR....not a street driven daily driver used to haul the kids to soccer practice...... I would assume that they have changed out the control arms to something a bit sturdier than the OEM arms.... ....or that would be my guess...unless Larry or HH decides to come in and add some insight. dave. __________________ Ford Owners Club of San Antonio Oh! Don't mind me. I'm just upping my post count..... x p Making people reply with "WTF" since 2004

10-11-2007, 06:34 PM	#18
j0eyabs Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: San Leandro Posts: 1,193	Re: 28.5 mm rearsway bar so the SVT uses the same rear control arms as the regular focus. __________________ 2003 SVT Focus, CD Silver base model SVT, AEM SR, Steeda Strut Brace, Steeda STS, Clear corners, Hella Head Lights, Focus Sport Tune, 67mm TB, SS brake lines, KYB AGX shocks, MBRP Exhaust, Steeda Springs, Screamin Demon Coil & Wires, Focussport SCT tune, Steeda 28.5mm rear sway bar, OZ Record 18's, and Blue Laminex on the headlights and fogs. 3964/3985

10-11-2007, 10:17 PM	#19
Mjasinski Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Saint Paul, MN Posts: 1,459	Re: 28.5 mm rearsway bar no they are reinforced from what i understand __________________ 2000 Autumn Orange ZX3 "Op Orange" 2000 CD Silver ZX3 "Bullet" the beater My Space

10-12-2007, 10:22 AM	#21
Mjasinski Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Saint Paul, MN Posts: 1,459	Re: 28.5 mm rearsway bar yeah for sure... __________________ 2000 Autumn Orange ZX3 "Op Orange" 2000 CD Silver ZX3 "Bullet" the beater My Space

10-23-2007, 07:37 AM	#22
larryinfl Premier Sponsor Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Boca Raton, Florida Posts: 382	Re: 28.5 mm rearsway bar Who's bars are those? If you are having any issues at all with our bars and clamps breaking PM me and I'll get you taken care of. But it sounds like you have other brands of bars and they are breaking. In that case Adco would be a good choice, or try going back to the company you bought it from. Don't forget you guys can PM me anytime you need anything! Larry __________________ Steeda Autosports Webmaster :-) Steeda Focus Goodness: http://www.steedafocus.com Steeda Phone Number: 954-960-0774

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