'Nother Feature Idea... - Focaljet

**CrUziN4L** · 09-12-2006, 09:32 AM

Well since Cablevision recently cracked the whip on my basic cable, i have not had the SPEED channel for over months and missing out on a lot of touring/club/etc races.

Was wondering if we could add a section for strictly "[FJ]-TV" kind of a section dedicated to TV and also TV segments that didn't air and have them hosted by a free online service.

Maybe these can be posted by members or maybe some including the Focus racecar be hosted here to be viewed. (those specifically would be hosted here to be viewed).

This will also keep some video clutter out of the TeamPitStop...

anyone kinda get what im thinking?

-chris

**MrPotatoes** · 09-12-2006, 10:14 AM

a subforum in pit stop would be best for that. the only problem with that idea is that video hosting is not cheap and massive downloads can break the server and ron's wallet.

if anything, YouTube links

**Dev** · 09-12-2006, 12:59 PM

Hmmm a VR motorsport sub forum for just vids!

I like it!

**CrUziN4L** · 09-12-2006, 08:02 PM

yeh i was just thinking...

Yeh i know about hosting it would kill us, and im sure we wouldn't want to buy server space to youtube or something (adding that kind of link, makes it dam near CAKE for hackers...not gonna risk that)

i dont know, just wanted a TV forum for clubsport races and stuff...thinking selfishly because I DONT HAVE NO MORE SPEEDTV URRGHHH

-chris

**BUR_ZX3** · 09-13-2006, 02:45 AM

This is "Value Added"

Subscribe to FJ as a "GOLD MEMBER" and get access to view special videos, as well as host your photos here, etc...

Works elsewhere.

**David Anderson** · 09-13-2006, 05:16 AM

Todd, how much per year do you ponder this will cost? Im down as long as it wont break the wallet.

**Dev** · 09-13-2006, 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BUR_ZX3

This is "Value Added"

Subscribe to FJ as a "GOLD MEMBER" and get access to view special videos, as well as host your photos here, etc...

Works elsewhere.

Todd.... I am pointing Ron to this thread! Awesome ****ING IDEA MAN!

**BUR_ZX3** · 09-13-2006, 11:20 AM

Cost would be a weird thing to determine. There would have to be limits... I got NAILED with a bandwidth bill on a webpage I rehosted. That ebay page of the slave for sale.... At its peak, it got close to 1.6 million views in one day. The bandwidth wasn't ginormous but the half a megabyte or so, times 1.6 million, times 30 days....

To this day, FOTB.com gets about 1200-1500 404's looking for that one page cuz it got linked all over the world.

There would have to be some limits set to make it work and be affordable. I'm thinking a great price point might be $10 a year for basic (hosting images that can only be posted on FJ) and for a few bucks more, you can share with other sites... I dunno.

**belacyrf** · 09-13-2006, 11:57 AM

Great idea, but painful and expensive having to manage a storage solution! Vids would eat up drive space quickly. My application here at work only supports 300 users with free document upload. We have already used 200 gigs of drive space in 1 year with just PDF's and other smaller images.

Imagine what kind of drive space would be needed to allow 1000's of people video upload? He's going to need to become a hosting company of sorts with a SAN or NAS solution with redundancy. That's quite a change. I like the idea, just not sure it would be financially possible.

**BUR_ZX3** · 09-13-2006, 12:47 PM

Yah... mebbe just a hosting of photos...

I'm saying that nobody would pay for access to the "video forum" by itself. But to have a special add-on incentive would be great.

**ax0n** · 09-13-2006, 01:00 PM

Could someone describe how posting links to YouTube content would cause something to be "hacked"?

**Dev** · 09-13-2006, 01:06 PM

I think that would be the most "reasonable" solution. As long as we kept the BS out of it with streetracing and all. I just love the idea of having a "vid only" forum. It will clean out those from Pit Stop at the very least. I am still going to bug Ron about it though.

**MrPotatoes** · 09-13-2006, 01:11 PM

a sub-forum of just links. i don't see the problem. i think it's a great idea

**Thameth** · 09-13-2006, 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ax0n

Could someone describe how posting links to YouTube content would cause something to be "hacked"?

Exactly, i think the person who brought up the "hacking" idea was a little confused.

If FJ members upload to Google Video or YouTube then there should be no problem just linking to it. Hell if you allow HTML for only that one forum people could actually imbed the video into the post (though i think allowing HTML could possibly be a security threat for members).

**MrPotatoes** · 09-13-2006, 02:40 PM

*ugh*

never allow HTML into people's posts. even if they don't mean to **** something up there is still potential for 'badness'

**CrUziN4L** · 09-15-2006, 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ax0n

Could someone describe how posting links to YouTube content would cause something to be "hacked"?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thameth

If FJ members upload to Google Video or YouTube then there should be no problem just linking to it. Hell if you allow HTML for only that one forum people could actually imbed the video into the post (though i think allowing HTML could possibly be a security threat for members).

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrPotatoes

*ugh*

never allow HTML into people's posts. even if they don't mean to **** something up there is still potential for 'badness'

That's what i meant. I was thinking of a type of section allowing immediate video streams, thus HTML or some other format but axed the idea.

-chris

**Thameth** · 09-15-2006, 09:43 PM

Is there a way Axon that only Admins could do HTML posts? Then we can make it so every video link has to be approved and then we can inbed with HTML??

That might be a way around it, maybe it can be done by making a new group for the admins with that access or something?

**MrPotatoes** · 09-16-2006, 12:29 AM

honestly. this is a great idea but why not just links with screenshot thumbnails embeded. having it embeded still will bring up your bandwidth

**Thameth** · 09-16-2006, 02:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrPotatoes

honestly. this is a great idea but why not just links with screenshot thumbnails embeded. having it embeded still will bring up your bandwidth

Why and how???? When you embed from youtube or Google Video its still coming from their server. It would be no different than embedding an image, its not coming off the FJ server.

**CrUziN4L** · 09-16-2006, 10:48 AM

this is when i wished i was done with school and can make some advanced moves..

**Blis** · 09-18-2006, 09:08 AM

We can create a YouTube, and few other BB codes to display the videos in the threads.

For example, I can put

Code:

[yt]oQM1NUmK3qA[/yt]

to display http://youtube.com/watch?v=oQM1NUmK3qA

However, I don't think I could restrict it to a single forum.

**MrPotatoes** · 09-18-2006, 09:30 AM

that would serious code changes and even i am weary of that. that i doubt would be a simple hack. shoot, i'd be overwhelmed with something like that lol.

i'mjust thinking about it
*shudder*

**Thameth** · 09-18-2006, 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blis

We can create a YouTube, and few other BB codes to display the videos in the threads.

For example, I can put

Code:

[yt]oQM1NUmK3qA[/yt]

to display http://youtube.com/watch?v=oQM1NUmK3qA

However, I don't think I could restrict it to a single forum.

Now that would be bad ass! Can we do that now???

**Blis** · 09-18-2006, 03:18 PM

Quote:

that would serious code changes and even i am weary of that. that i doubt would be a simple hack. shoot, i'd be overwhelmed with something like that lol.

i'mjust thinking about it
*shudder*

Nah, it's easy... vB allows you to create all sorts of BB codes.

09-12-2006, 09:32 AM	#1
CrUziN4L [FJ] Addict Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NY Posts: 15,408	'Nother Feature Idea... Well since Cablevision recently cracked the whip on my basic cable, i have not had the SPEED channel for over months and missing out on a lot of touring/club/etc races. Was wondering if we could add a section for strictly "[FJ]-TV" kind of a section dedicated to TV and also TV segments that didn't air and have them hosted by a free online service. Maybe these can be posted by members or maybe some including the Focus racecar be hosted here to be viewed. (those specifically would be hosted here to be viewed). This will also keep some video clutter out of the TeamPitStop... anyone kinda get what im thinking? -chris __________________ Wanna know how to score some awesome sigs?...Add beer to a group of FJ'ers at a car show and *MIX*. haha

09-12-2006, 10:14 AM	#2
MrPotatoes Wanna touch my tots? Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: in your brain smoothing out the wrinkles Posts: 12,511	Re: 'Nother Feature Idea... a subforum in pit stop would be best for that. the only problem with that idea is that video hosting is not cheap and massive downloads can break the server and ron's wallet. if anything, YouTube links

09-12-2006, 08:02 PM	#4
CrUziN4L [FJ] Addict Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NY Posts: 15,408	Re: 'Nother Feature Idea... yeh i was just thinking... Yeh i know about hosting it would kill us, and im sure we wouldn't want to buy server space to youtube or something (adding that kind of link, makes it dam near CAKE for hackers...not gonna risk that) i dont know, just wanted a TV forum for clubsport races and stuff...thinking selfishly because I DONT HAVE NO MORE SPEEDTV URRGHHH -chris __________________ Wanna know how to score some awesome sigs?...Add beer to a group of FJ'ers at a car show and *MIX*. haha

09-13-2006, 02:45 AM	#5
BUR_ZX3 [FJ] Addict Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: On the Set of CSI: Crime Scene Investigation Posts: 35,273	Re: 'Nother Feature Idea... This is "Value Added" Subscribe to FJ as a "GOLD MEMBER" and get access to view special videos, as well as host your photos here, etc... Works elsewhere. __________________ Formerly known as "The Spicy Sausage Bandit"

09-13-2006, 05:16 AM	#6
David Anderson David Anderson Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Irving, Tx Posts: 5,531	Re: 'Nother Feature Idea... Todd, how much per year do you ponder this will cost? Im down as long as it wont break the wallet. __________________

09-13-2006, 11:20 AM	#8
BUR_ZX3 [FJ] Addict Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: On the Set of CSI: Crime Scene Investigation Posts: 35,273	Re: 'Nother Feature Idea... Cost would be a weird thing to determine. There would have to be limits... I got NAILED with a bandwidth bill on a webpage I rehosted. That ebay page of the slave for sale.... At its peak, it got close to 1.6 million views in one day. The bandwidth wasn't ginormous but the half a megabyte or so, times 1.6 million, times 30 days.... To this day, FOTB.com gets about 1200-1500 404's looking for that one page cuz it got linked all over the world. There would have to be some limits set to make it work and be affordable. I'm thinking a great price point might be $10 a year for basic (hosting images that can only be posted on FJ) and for a few bucks more, you can share with other sites... I dunno. __________________ Formerly known as "The Spicy Sausage Bandit"

09-13-2006, 11:57 AM	#9
belacyrf [FJ] Addict Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Where my home is Posts: 17,207	Re: 'Nother Feature Idea... Great idea, but painful and expensive having to manage a storage solution! Vids would eat up drive space quickly. My application here at work only supports 300 users with free document upload. We have already used 200 gigs of drive space in 1 year with just PDF's and other smaller images. Imagine what kind of drive space would be needed to allow 1000's of people video upload? He's going to need to become a hosting company of sorts with a SAN or NAS solution with redundancy. That's quite a change. I like the idea, just not sure it would be financially possible. __________________ 1995 Miata... Former owner of Turbo SVTF

09-13-2006, 12:47 PM	#10
BUR_ZX3 [FJ] Addict Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: On the Set of CSI: Crime Scene Investigation Posts: 35,273	Re: 'Nother Feature Idea... Yah... mebbe just a hosting of photos... I'm saying that nobody would pay for access to the "video forum" by itself. But to have a special add-on incentive would be great. __________________ Formerly known as "The Spicy Sausage Bandit"

09-13-2006, 01:00 PM	#11
ax0n Devil's Advocate. Just to cheese you off. Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: In ur srvrz patchin ur krnlz Posts: 24,425	Re: 'Nother Feature Idea... Could someone describe how posting links to YouTube content would cause something to be "hacked"? __________________ Cars: ['00 ZX3] ['03 Explorer] Bikes: [DB Sorrento] [DB Outlook] [Trek 1200] [FocusHacks] : Ford Focus Tech & Maintenance Tips [KC Bike Commuting Blog]: Rants from the streets of KC [HiR Information Report (rss)] : Get your fill of Geek Humor, Security, and Unix

09-13-2006, 01:11 PM	#13
MrPotatoes Wanna touch my tots? Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: in your brain smoothing out the wrinkles Posts: 12,511	Re: 'Nother Feature Idea... a sub-forum of just links. i don't see the problem. i think it's a great idea

09-13-2006, 02:40 PM	#15
MrPotatoes Wanna touch my tots? Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: in your brain smoothing out the wrinkles Posts: 12,511	Re: 'Nother Feature Idea... ugh never allow HTML into people's posts. even if they don't mean to **** something up there is still potential for 'badness'

09-15-2006, 09:43 PM	#17
Thameth Administrator Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: North Miami Beach, FL USA Posts: 37,395	Re: 'Nother Feature Idea... Is there a way Axon that only Admins could do HTML posts? Then we can make it so every video link has to be approved and then we can inbed with HTML?? That might be a way around it, maybe it can be done by making a new group for the admins with that access or something? __________________ www.JosephRegner.com http://twitter.com/JRegner Average gasoline prices around the world The world does not revolve around you, so act like it

09-16-2006, 12:29 AM	#18
MrPotatoes Wanna touch my tots? Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: in your brain smoothing out the wrinkles Posts: 12,511	Re: 'Nother Feature Idea... honestly. this is a great idea but why not just links with screenshot thumbnails embeded. having it embeded still will bring up your bandwidth

09-16-2006, 10:48 AM	#20
CrUziN4L [FJ] Addict Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NY Posts: 15,408	Re: 'Nother Feature Idea... this is when i wished i was done with school and can make some advanced moves.. __________________ Wanna know how to score some awesome sigs?...Add beer to a group of FJ'ers at a car show and *MIX*. haha

09-18-2006, 09:08 AM	#21
Blis Administrator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 3,069	Re: 'Nother Feature Idea... We can create a YouTube, and few other BB codes to display the videos in the threads. For example, I can put Code: [yt]oQM1NUmK3qA[/yt] to display http://youtube.com/watch?v=oQM1NUmK3qA However, I don't think I could restrict it to a single forum. __________________ New: Silver 2004 Acura TSX Old: Black 2000 ZX3 + mods

09-18-2006, 09:30 AM	#22
MrPotatoes Wanna touch my tots? Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: in your brain smoothing out the wrinkles Posts: 12,511	Re: 'Nother Feature Idea... that would serious code changes and even i am weary of that. that i doubt would be a simple hack. shoot, i'd be overwhelmed with something like that lol. i'mjust thinking about it shudder