front camber kit ?

[BadIdea]

I've had no issues with my LCR race plates. The car seems to be properly balanced now with front and rear grip. But it's pretty much a set it, align it, and don't touch it. The toe changes are significant for small changes in camber.

[John B]

So (hypothetically) if I want to run zero camber on the street, then show up to an auto-x or track day and bump my camber out to -3, you're saying the toe change is significant enough to not try this?

[BadIdea]

Originally Posted by John B

So (hypothetically) if I want to run zero camber on the street, then show up to an auto-x or track day and bump my camber out to -3, you're saying the toe change is significant enough to not try this?

That's my opinion. Toe would probably goe to 1" in, and you want it a little out. I have about 4k miles on my new tires with -3 camber and don't notice any abnormal wear.

[John B]

1" toe in?

are you sure you don't mean 1/8"?

[BadIdea]

My car was at 1/8" total out. After the camber plates were installed and set to max negative (-3.5 to -3), toe went to 1" total in.

[SVTADAM]

Do the LCR camber plates increase height of the suspension in the front? I am seriously considering a set of either those or the KMacs to get rid of the SPC height increase.

[Obsidian6]

hey guys, i just got an alignment done on my focus ( twice actually ) my front camber is still not too good. i need some help on this. it still is off by a bit, and needs to be straightened, what will i need to get this done?

[DisrupTer911]

i'd suggest starting a new post about your alignment issues only reason is so that this thread stays clear and on point with topic of camber kits available to us.

but please start a thread so we can help

[Ted7rns]

Originally Posted by SVTADAM

Do the LCR camber plates increase height of the suspension in the front? I am seriously considering a set of either those or the KMacs to get rid of the SPC height increase.

Well, that seems to be the million dollar question. I was told by a very reliable source there was an increase of ride height.
So, I did my own test on the same car with the same suspension (Dynamic) and I only found a 3 to 4mm difference. Not enough to tell a difference.

[68 Touring Car]

Originally Posted by Ted7rns

Well, that seems to be the million dollar question. I was told by a very reliable source there was an increase of ride height.
So, I did my own test on the same car with the same suspension (Dynamic) and I only found a 3 to 4mm difference. Not enough to tell a difference.

There is no change in heights over a production top assembly. Ted you might want to recheck.

[Ted7rns]

Originally Posted by 68 Touring Car

There is no change in heights over a production top assembly. Ted you might want to recheck.

I'm sure your right Leo. It wasn't a great check on it... because I measure it in different locations and the car might not have totally settle.

[Obsidian6]

so. i need to know. has there been a unanimous decision on what is the better kit?

because i am still at -2 camber with my Koni + H&R setup and while it handles beautifully, i'm afraid it's going to ruin my new tires i bought last week.

( the tires that were on the car when i bought it were so worn out on the inside the steel belts were coming through. this was caused prematurely thanks to the camber. )

I mean, obviously i still want the car to handle like it does, but not at the cost of $600 a set for tires

[BadIdea]

Did you get an alignment? The wear is from toe, not camber. I ran -3 camber all summer (about 10k miles) and didn't notice significant wear on my brand new re960's.

Not sure which is better. I know kmac had problems with their first kits but the new ones are supposed to be better. I have the LCR race plates and love them. I would choose them again because it's an american company that has brought spec focus racing to us. Lots of people talked about it but LCR brought 3 of the 4 cars.

[Obsidian6]

yeah i've done 4 alignments since i bought the car on the 5th of this month lol. So the toe is causing the inside wear? that's weird because the toe on the f/r was within spec.

man i'm really confused lol ( sorry i'm new to modifying cars )

I did look into the LCR kit and that looked extremely appealing, but i can't afford that cost right now. buying new tires set me back nearly $600..

[BadIdea]

What was the toe at? 1/16 to 1/8 out in the front is a good number. You shouldn't need a camber kit.

[Obsidian6]

when i brought it in for its most recent alignment it was:

left: .10"
right: .03"

now it's:

left: .01"
right: .01"

i wonder why they keep changing so much? because mind you i had an alignment done when i got the tires last week, and now here a week later things had changed that much? something doesn't sound right.

[Z63R]

Re-read your alignment's printout.

These numbers are usually expressed in tenths of a degree, not tenths of an inch...

The front toe (I'm assuming that's what you posted last) will change slightly depending on the fuel level in your tank, let alone what's in the hatch or trunk.

[Obsidian6]

the spec sheet definitely is in inch hash marks, not degrees.

the only stuff that is in my trunk usually is the subwoofer that came with the car ( i can always take that out, but it does sound good )

[Z63R]

the spec sheet definitely is in inch hash marks, not degrees.

Odd, considering the newer laser equipment.

In that case, that's .800 inch toe change* which would be indicative of the slop of older, purely mechanical (rather than optical) alignment equipment, a mis-installed wheel flag (if optical) or an inebriated operator...

Did they spray paint center stripes on your tires?










*Are the front struts secure in the front knuckle strut bore?

[Obsidian6]

i dont believe so, i wasn't present during the alignment. I've no idea what type of devices they are using. its our local place called express tire. they've always done a good job with my other cars, i wonder now why they're having trouble with my focus.

[Z63R]

Were the struts changed between alignments?

[Obsidian6]

nope i still have my same konis and the damper rate should have been left alone, because i have all the adjustors

[yf22k]

does F2 no longer make fixed camber plates?
If stock camber is uneven, say -0L and -.5R, would fixed plates bring these closer together at the possibility that the stock plates were uneven? or is it likely that it is affected by something else along the suspension?

Has anyone ever tried the eibach camber kits sold at tire rack? They show pictures of the rear camber bolts but they also sell something to adjust the front but no pictures or info on them.

[DisrupTer911]

I believe the fronts are crash bolts