Major Tire Rub!!!!!!! Help!!!!!! - Focaljet

**robluko** · 03-08-2008, 10:46 PM

So this is my 4th focus and all of them have been lowered, and all of them have been lowered further than I have my '07 currently lowered at.

I have Vogtland springs in it with stock dampers (I've always used stock dampers) and the passengerside rear tire rubs on ANY bump! And If I have others in the car with me, the tire scrapes/rubs on EVERY little bump!

I have SVT wheels with stock size tires, and the only real difference between my '07 and my other foci is that this one dosen't have a rear sway bar....

Is that causing the rubbing?
Is the shock blown out?
WTF?

How can I stop the rubbing?!!!!!!!!!!! My tire is getting torn up!

**Reza** · 03-08-2008, 11:37 PM

try to find where its rubbing. and try to fix it.

you rub on the other side as well?

**Johnny_P** · 03-09-2008, 03:02 AM

park your car on a level surface
go to that corner of the car thats rubbing
compress that side of the car by like pulling/pushing down, etc, try to compress the spring
and then release the weight.... if it bobbles more than 2 times you need new dampers

but you probably need new dampers anyway because they're stock with sportline springs

**Croc_Tease!** · 03-09-2008, 04:49 AM

Well it makes sense, the sway bar will basicaly be increasing the spring rate. without one its like having softer springs.

**robluko** · 03-09-2008, 06:20 AM

I have a set of good SVT rear dampers that I'm going to put in and see if that helps at all. I tried the bouncing thing and it didn't seem to bounce at all.

It's rubbing only on the one side and it's rubbing the fender. At this point, I'm going to now have to replace the tire since it's so chewed up!

**gizmo88** · 03-10-2008, 12:38 PM

I had the same problem with Vogtland springs. They are too soft for their drop. What fixed my rubbing was putting in SVT springs and using a 24mm H&R Rear Swaybar.

**spikNspanDAN** · 03-10-2008, 01:58 PM

roll your fenders.

**robluko** · 03-10-2008, 02:00 PM

The Fenders have been rolled, and the probelm persists.

**ProjectSedan** · 03-10-2008, 02:20 PM

what tire size are you running? if its the 215/45/17 then i dont kno the problem unless you're really low.

how much weight is in the car right now? do u have a sound system? i kno on my SVT suspension with 215/45/17 and enough weight made it rub a little.

**brads03zx3** · 03-10-2008, 02:26 PM

Can we get some pictures of the rubbing evidence? You should not rub with stock wheels/offsets and tire size. I've never experienced rub, even with larger tires and more aggressive offsets.

**jerkeesvt** · 03-10-2008, 02:34 PM

I just put some Goodyear Eagle F1 (215/45/17)all seasons on my SVT,and noticed a little rub on the left front going around bumpy right turns.It has the stock SVT suspension. Did the old strut compression test, and it checks out ok.

**Croc_Tease!** · 03-11-2008, 02:35 AM

You need to use a stiffer damper and get a sway bar. Not only to remedy the rubbing, but to also make the car handle and ride better.

Also, did you check your rear camber?

**Z63R** · 03-11-2008, 02:40 AM

Quote:

robluko

My tire is getting torn up!

At this point, I'm going to now have to replace the tire since it's so chewed up!

Cut/trim/grind/file/whatever it is up in the wheelarch that's doing the slice-O-matic on yer tire.

**robluko** · 03-11-2008, 03:07 AM

I looked up under the fender and there is a scre stud thing that is holding up the fender carpet/liner. It stick outs really really far. I'm going to try grinding that down to see if that helps....

**gizmo88** · 03-11-2008, 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robluko

I looked up under the fender and there is a scre stud thing that is holding up the fender carpet/liner. It stick outs really really far. I'm going to try grinding that down to see if that helps....

That is not the cause. (thought the same thing) That holds the carpet onto the wheel well I believe. Just trying to save you some time. Croc Tease's advice on getting your alignment checked could help drastically as well.

**robluko** · 03-14-2008, 04:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gizmo88

That is not the cause. (thought the same thing) That holds the carpet onto the wheel well I believe. Just trying to save you some time. Croc Tease's advice on getting your alignment checked could help drastically as well.

Thanks for the heads up!

Here is how I plan on correcting the rear end......

Rear Sub Frame from LCRacing

This has easy camber adjustments and the prvisions for a sway bar....

H&R Rear Sway Bar

And a good alignment....

I'll probably replace the Vogtland springs too. I haven't been to happy with them so I'm gonna get some H&R's or Eibachs.

**Qwik1** · 03-14-2008, 06:26 AM

^ Ummm- Try replacing the dampers with something appropriate for the drop involved before you throw a sway and an entire subframe at it.

**McSVT** · 03-15-2008, 01:13 AM

Just be carefull with soft spring/dampners and stiff sway bars. Some people think they are the cause of broken rear arms, they brake/crack at the swaybar mounting hole.

03-08-2008, 10:46 PM	#1
robluko TEAM Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 666	Major Tire Rub!!!!!!! Help!!!!!! So this is my 4th focus and all of them have been lowered, and all of them have been lowered further than I have my '07 currently lowered at. I have Vogtland springs in it with stock dampers (I've always used stock dampers) and the passengerside rear tire rubs on ANY bump! And If I have others in the car with me, the tire scrapes/rubs on EVERY little bump! I have SVT wheels with stock size tires, and the only real difference between my '07 and my other foci is that this one dosen't have a rear sway bar.... Is that causing the rubbing? Is the shock blown out? WTF? How can I stop the rubbing?!!!!!!!!!!! My tire is getting torn up! __________________ 2007 Ford Focus ZX3 SES Goal: SVT Styling and Cosworth Power

03-08-2008, 11:37 PM	#2
Reza Formerly focus_wrc Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 8,504	Re: Major Tire Rub!!!!!!! Help!!!!!! try to find where its rubbing. and try to fix it. you rub on the other side as well? __________________ H&R/// , Team Dynamics , FocusSport , TCE Brakes, Bridgestone.

03-09-2008, 04:49 AM	#4
Croc_Tease! Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Culver City, CA Posts: 3,661	Re: Major Tire Rub!!!!!!! Help!!!!!! Well it makes sense, the sway bar will basicaly be increasing the spring rate. without one its like having softer springs. __________________ EVIL ZX3 Buy my Bilstien PSS9. Buy my Receiver.

03-09-2008, 06:20 AM	#5
robluko TEAM Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 666	Re: Major Tire Rub!!!!!!! Help!!!!!! I have a set of good SVT rear dampers that I'm going to put in and see if that helps at all. I tried the bouncing thing and it didn't seem to bounce at all. It's rubbing only on the one side and it's rubbing the fender. At this point, I'm going to now have to replace the tire since it's so chewed up! __________________ 2007 Ford Focus ZX3 SES Goal: SVT Styling and Cosworth Power

03-10-2008, 12:38 PM	#6
gizmo88 TEAM Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Oceanside, CA Posts: 922	Re: Major Tire Rub!!!!!!! Help!!!!!! I had the same problem with Vogtland springs. They are too soft for their drop. What fixed my rubbing was putting in SVT springs and using a 24mm H&R Rear Swaybar. __________________ “Have you ever noticed that anybody driving slower than you is an idiot, and anyone going faster than you is a maniac?” - George Carlin

03-10-2008, 01:58 PM	#7
spikNspanDAN Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Sacramento/San Jose CA Posts: 1,221	Re: Major Tire Rub!!!!!!! Help!!!!!! roll your fenders.

03-10-2008, 02:00 PM	#8
robluko TEAM Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 666	Re: Major Tire Rub!!!!!!! Help!!!!!! The Fenders have been rolled, and the probelm persists. __________________ 2007 Ford Focus ZX3 SES Goal: SVT Styling and Cosworth Power

03-10-2008, 02:20 PM	#9
ProjectSedan TEAM Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: USAF: Tinker AFB Posts: 284	Re: Major Tire Rub!!!!!!! Help!!!!!! what tire size are you running? if its the 215/45/17 then i dont kno the problem unless you're really low. how much weight is in the car right now? do u have a sound system? i kno on my SVT suspension with 215/45/17 and enough weight made it rub a little. __________________ Gone soon: 2001 Focus LX with a few upgrades New beast: 2002 Focus ZX3 bulit from Massive and formally venomrogue's looking for stock SPI parts. selling spi parts. PM me if interested.

03-10-2008, 02:26 PM	#10
brads03zx3 [FJ] Specialist Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: California Posts: 9,005	Re: Major Tire Rub!!!!!!! Help!!!!!! Can we get some pictures of the rubbing evidence? You should not rub with stock wheels/offsets and tire size. I've never experienced rub, even with larger tires and more aggressive offsets. __________________ Mountain Tested----'03 zetec DuraMonster---'03 duratec ZX3 vs MNTN - 9/0 & ZX3 vs TRACK - 4/1 *JCM Racing #88* Bouncing Back---Bigger, Faster, Stronger Vacuum Vulture Racing - We put the ARG in 'CHARGED

03-10-2008, 02:34 PM	#11
jerkeesvt TEAM Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Pa Posts: 624	Re: Major Tire Rub!!!!!!! Help!!!!!! I just put some Goodyear Eagle F1 (215/45/17)all seasons on my SVT,and noticed a little rub on the left front going around bumpy right turns.It has the stock SVT suspension. Did the old strut compression test, and it checks out ok. __________________ Xios turbo'd '03 SVT Focus euro edition in competition orange with the Saleen/Eibach susp. kit! If you want EXEDY to make a clutch for the SVT Focus...... e-mail them at: TechSupport@EXEDYUSA.com

03-11-2008, 02:35 AM	#12
Croc_Tease! Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Culver City, CA Posts: 3,661	Re: Major Tire Rub!!!!!!! Help!!!!!! You need to use a stiffer damper and get a sway bar. Not only to remedy the rubbing, but to also make the car handle and ride better. Also, did you check your rear camber? __________________ EVIL ZX3 Buy my Bilstien PSS9. Buy my Receiver.

03-11-2008, 03:07 AM	#14
robluko TEAM Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 666	Re: Major Tire Rub!!!!!!! Help!!!!!! I looked up under the fender and there is a scre stud thing that is holding up the fender carpet/liner. It stick outs really really far. I'm going to try grinding that down to see if that helps.... __________________ 2007 Ford Focus ZX3 SES Goal: SVT Styling and Cosworth Power

03-15-2008, 01:13 AM	#18
McSVT Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Federal Way, WA Posts: 1,640	Re: Major Tire Rub!!!!!!! Help!!!!!! Just be carefull with soft spring/dampners and stiff sway bars. Some people think they are the cause of broken rear arms, they brake/crack at the swaybar mounting hole. __________________ Anyone can go fast in a straight line. 2002 SVT Pitch Black #3633 ~ Built 7/2002 Tuned by Focus Sport/SCT ~ 17x7 White OZ Superleggera with BFG KDW 2's, street ~ 17x7 Dark Argent OZ Superleggera with Falken RT-615, track ~ Steeda Short Throw Shifter ~ VF-Engineering Rear Engine Mount ~ H&R Coilovers ~ Graphics by WebXtremes

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