Will AGX's work with H&R springs?

[rabidcrow]

OK, so I need new dampeners. Currently I'm running the H&R cup kit. I would like to keep these springs and just get some new dampners, but will the AGX's work with such a soft spring rate? Any other suggestions?

My goals for the car: cheap as possible right now. This is a daily driver and I don't want to spend a lot of money on it because I'm in the market for a "new" race car.

If I have to I'll just revert back to stock

[mievil]

I would suggest against it with a drop that significant.

[Z63R]

Pardon me, Sir mievile; it appears I follow your every footstep this fine morning... I assure you it is entirely unintentional.

...however, in concurence may I add that KYB will "autopsy" any damper sent back under warranty to verify that it hadn't been bottomed repeatedly.

KYB warranties the AGX to as low as a 1.5 inch drop only; says so on the paperwork inside each box.



A drop as low as the H&R Cup Kit almost requires a shortened damper...

[rabidcrow]

OK, then what dampener do you suggest? Possibly yellows? Any ware I can get the fronts for cheap or even used?

[Reza]

I don't want to tell you this but you probably have to buy springs and dampers.

you can buy the SVT kit for about $250. come with SVT springs, dampers, and rear sway bar.

or you can get the roush kit for $295 it come with dampers, and springs,

http://www.nthcoast.com/store/produc...roducts_id=621.


these are the cheapest way to go. Personally I would go with the roush kit.

[Z63R]

what dampener do you suggest

The only damper that'll work with those springs: H&R's Cup Kit damper.

If you want to keep using those springs, that is the only damper I would use unless I could get shortened Konis, but I don't know how much that would be on top of the already over-600 dollar purchase price of the stock Konis.

One has to pay to play low.

You did mention putting the car back to stock, that you want to put the bulk of your discretionary income into a racecar... why not consider "doing it once - doing it right" and go with the sometimes-available-for-less-than-$200 FRPP SVT Suspension Kit?

The car would no longer be on a visually-cool, low drop, but the package as a whole is remarkable for it's balance, ride and sheer capability on public roads... there is no better road car suspension than the SVT/Ford of Europe-developed ST170 suspension package... it's only flaw is that it is just not a low-enough drop for asthetics. Aye, the vanity of it all. It's the only reason I swapped it out for something a little lower...

[OmniFocus]

Originally Posted by Z63R

The only damper that'll work with those springs: H&R's Cup Kit damper.

I concur... they're just such an extreme lowering for a non-coilover, that they require a shortened damper.

If memory serves, an off-the-shelf shock would have somewhere around .5" of available bump travel with those springs, which would slowly tear that chassis apart.

The only other thing I might consider is the GAZ shock kit, which claims to use the same dampers as their coilovers... which would mean they're shortened. I'd research that first... and you're still out $570+shipping for a set.

[rabidcrow]

Thanks for the info guys. I was kinda thinking the same thing, but I didn't want to believe it. Looks like I will be getting a whole new suspension over one broke tab...

Focus_wrc, thanks for the link. I will probably be doing the roush setup.

[OmniFocus]

Well.... alternately you could attempt to weld the tab.

It seems to be a design flaw with the cup kit struts... I know of that happening on a few cars now.

[rabidcrow]

Originally Posted by OmniFocus

Well.... alternately you could attempt to weld the tab.

It seems to be a design flaw with the cup kit struts... I know of that happening on a few cars now.

Already tried that and completely destroyed my strut. It's now clicking and popping like a mother and I'm pretty sure it's leaking fluid to...

Do you think if I put H&R coil overs in the front it wouldn't mess up the balance of the car? I wanna get this fixed on the cheap but also want to retain the slammed look.

[OmniFocus]

It would probably be a tolerable setup, since the H&R rear coilovers are almost as soft.

[rabidcrow]

Awesome. Thanks for the insight Omni. There is someone selling a used set of coil overs on FF and hopefully I can snag just the fronts from him...

[greyZXtre]

i bet you could get away with the konis if you're riding around on full firm permanently. but who wants to do that. that would kill your back

or have you tried contacting H&R to see how much a single replacement strut/spring combo is?

[rabidcrow]

Originally Posted by OmniFocus

It would probably be a tolerable setup, since the H&R rear coilovers are almost as soft.

OK, I got a used set of H&R front coilovers and moog end links on the way. Hopefully this fixes everything.
Wish me luck!