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Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Toronto, Canada
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I know it's kinda early to say, but what do you guys think of the Neon SRT. According to motortrend, the Neon SRT will be in production by 2002. A 200 hp Neon doesn't sound that bad to me. I'll be waiting for the SVT Focus, but I bet the SRT will give the Focus and imports a good run.
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Mr Know-It-All
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Moorpark, CA USA
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Overall, I think that based on quality, value and design the SVT Focus wins. The performance comparisons will have to come later since neither car has been finalized. I have never been a Neon fan, so I'm not the best person to ask, but I do believe the things I said to be true. I can appreciate that some people like them and I don't go around bashing other cars either.
I will agree that the comparison of those two cars is worthy, and when the time comes, it will be interesting. I wouldn't count the Neon out because that chassis has been developed extensively for racing already. We'll have to see about these engine specs... My mind is made up already though. I picture the SVT charming me in the way my friends '93 VW Corrado VR6 did - in both performance, handling, and comfort. Man this 8 months is gonna take forever! >8^) ER SVT - WooHoo!! |
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Moderator
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: S. Cali., USA
Posts: 12,316
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$18,000
ITs not a Focus though... Lots of car though. Supercharged and all. Not Focus... |
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Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: back on longggisland
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Peloton25:
Overall, I think that based on quality, value and design the SVT Focus wins. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> i'm not a neon fan but how can you make judgements about quality and value before a car even hits the market? |
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Mr Know-It-All
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Moorpark, CA USA
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I was speaking based on the current models that are available and past experiences with Focus and Neon rental cars I've had. Opinions are like _________, but here's where I'm coming from.
Quality: Maybe they will improve the quality of the Neon to meet current Focus levels before this new model is intro'd but I'd be surprised if they did. I have had one friend who owned a 1998 Neon and it gave him nothing but probs - he wasn't even a racer - he's an IJAC guy. Value: I think the SVT will have a lot of bang for the buck and I'm not sure the Neon performance car will beat it. We'll have to wait and see - so that was speculation on my part. I think the standard Foci are a better value then the comparable Neon models. Design: I prefer the Design of the Focus to the Neon. I think a lot more people do as well - you can base that on sales numbers if you want. The SVT is an improvement to the standard ZX3 in my opinion - I don't see how they will modify the Neon to look as good as it. Design is subjective though - so certainly someone could disagree with that. I hope that clears things up. I welcome any attempt by any company to build a sports car instead of a sport-ute, so the Neon SRT will definetly be a good thing in my book. It just won't be for me... >8^) ER |
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Senior TEAM Member
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Portland, OR 97035
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I'm 6'5"...I've never considered the Neon SRT.
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Rookie
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Omaha, NE, USA
Posts: 37
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Neon SRT? Don't bet on it. They've been teasing us Neon drivers with s.charged cars for years. The word is, and has been over at neons.org, that it will not be produced! Yup, that's why I'm visiting this site. 'Cause the SVT is picking up my interest where the slower, overpriced, 4-door only 2001 R/T's lost mine. Things don't look good for Chrysler since the merge...errr...takeover. The only thing one can hope for, is with all these new high perfomance compacts coming out, that something over there gets shaken up and they get on the ball and produce the SRT! But don't bet on it.
Incidentally, I drive a 98 R/T. |
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Senior TEAM Member
Join Date: Nov 2000
Posts: 1,089
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i feel bad that chrysler teases u guys.
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Junior Member
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Philly Yo / AIM = VividBluePA
Posts: 75
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I can not help but wonder if I am going to get my CD Silver SVT and then Ford will turn around and release a SVT-R version like the Cobra R and base it off of the T/C RS of Europe. Talking about being upset...
Hey, they raised the HP on the SVT Contour after what... one year? It happens.. My .02 ------------------ 1997 BMW Z3 2000 Ford Contour Sport 24V Coming Soon... SVT Focus ![]() Aol Instant Messenger = PAFocus |
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Rookie
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Huron, Ohio U.S.A
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I would have to agree with Peloton25, the focus SVT is alot more refined the any Neon.I am also speaking from experiance because i drive a '96 Neon ACR.I would take the Focus SVT over a neon anyday of the week.
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Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Minneapolis, MN
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Autoweek agrees that the Neon R/T leaves a lot to be desired. See the article at: http://www.autoweek.com/cat_content.mv?port_code=autoweek&cat_code=carboar d&loc_code=index&content_code=04072136
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Mr Know-It-All
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Moorpark, CA USA
Posts: 21,779
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Holy ancient thread Batman!!!
I had to laugh at the part where I said this 8 month wait is gonna take forever - note that I made that comment in March 2001. [img]images/icons/shocked.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/lol.gif[/img] Thanks for the article link and for using the search feature. [img]graemlins/thumbup.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/thumbup.gif[/img] EDIT: Ok, I just read their little preview blurb. Boy does it make me want to run over to the Neon board and stir the pot. [img]graemlins/evilgrin.gif[/img] [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img] >8^) ER [ 05-07-2002: Message edited by: Peloton25 ]</p> |
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Junior Member
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Maryland, Baltimore
Posts: 79
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Chrysler products are notorious for poor quality, they make some of the best looking cars in the business but thier quality issues alone will keep me away. + I already have a silver SVT Focus.
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Senior TEAM Member
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Friendswood, Tx
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my neighbor has a '96 Viper GTS and it is a monster of a car as far as torque and power but let me tell you, the interior of that car is just PLAIN and CHEAP as far as materials and build quality.
I was really disappointed with it until we absolutely sucked all the paint off a new WS-6 Trans Am from a standing start. Power makes up for a lot. MGM |
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Rookie
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: chula vista
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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Peloton25:
Overall, I think that based on quality, value and design the SVT Focus wins. The performance comparisons will have to come later since neither car has been finalized. I have never been a Neon fan, so I'm not the best person to ask, but I do believe the things I said to be true. I can appreciate that some people like them and I don't go around bashing other cars either. I will agree that the comparison of those two cars is worthy, and when the time comes, it will be interesting. I wouldn't count the Neon out because that chassis has been developed extensively for racing already. We'll have to see about these engine specs... My mind is made up already though. I picture the SVT charming me in the way my friends '93 VW Corrado VR6 did - in both performance, handling, and comfort. Man this 8 months is gonna take forever! >8^) ER SVT - WooHoo!! how does the focus svt compare to the vw corrado vr 6? I own a acura rsx and a 92 vw corrado vr 6 in need of at least 1500 worth of repairs. I'm also thinking of purchasing the svt as a second car. should I try to fix the corrado? it handles well, the shifter is a bit notchy, great low end torque. however, it is expensive to maintain. I'm also thinking of trading in the rsx in early 2004 for either of the following cars: mustang cobra,nissan 350z,the mazda rx-7 or the upcoming acura rsx type r. the only thing that concerns me about svt products is the reliability. consumer reports gives the mustang and focus poor realibility ratings and depreciation ratings. [ 05-08-2002: Message edited by: rsxblue ]</p> |
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Senior TEAM Member
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: NJ
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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by rsxblue:
consumer reports gives the mustang and focus poor realibility ratings and depreciation ratings. [ 05-08-2002: Message edited by: rsxblue ]<hr></blockquote> [img]graemlins/lol.gif[/img] Thats your first mistake....trusting Consumer Reports [img]graemlins/lol.gif[/img] As for depreciation...**** I dont care about it. A car will normally deprecate...its not a house your buying now [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img] . Buy the car and enjoy it...dont worry about how much your going to sell it for 5-10 yrs down the road. Plus I think Japanese cars are overrated for the most part...part of the reason they dont depreciate as much. Scott |
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Senior TEAM Member
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Indianapolis, IN, USA
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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by rsxblue:
the only thing that concerns me about svt products is the reliability. consumer reports gives the mustang and focus poor realibility ratings and depreciation ratings. [ 05-08-2002: Message edited by: rsxblue ]<hr></blockquote> I was pretty dismayed to see the depreciation ratings myself from Consumer Reports. I do believe the Focus was the absolute worst on the list. But after driving the SVT for almost a month now, I can say I would recommend it to anyone. |
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Senior TEAM Member
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Austin Tx, Better than your city.
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Just the thought of me walking into a dodge/chrysler dealer scares me...if that ever happened, please shoot me with a high powered rifle so its quick and painless [img]graemlins/lol.gif[/img]
ATTN: DODGE OWNERS...... Think of Ford as the Statue of Liberty...we are here to accept you for what you are and we will get you help. Shame on dodge for hurting you time after time with unfulfilled promises and piss poor quality issues. [img]images/icons/frown.gif[/img] [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img] We Fordians will give you the love your heart has been missing [img]graemlins/thumbup.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/lol.gif[/img] |
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Mr Know-It-All
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Moorpark, CA USA
Posts: 21,779
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Ok... Let's not "brand hate" too much, mmmmkay. [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img]
>8^) ER |
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Rookie
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: chicago
Posts: 39
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i don't know how i keep getting sucked into these arguments. but when i see a neon mentioned in another car forum i feel obligated to reply. first off i would like to thank you guys for not bashing the neon too badly [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img] . first off the srt isn't out yet. but it will be produced with a 2.4L turbocharged engine. it will feature a 5 speed manual transmission. this engine has gone extensive development for use in the upcomming gt cruiser and the srt-4. as of now dodge is promising a sticker under 20k$ and we all know no one is going to buy a 25k$ neon. so i think it will be close. and as for a performance matchup if the srt delivers as promised there wont be many competitors in the compact car market. although im not much of a dodge guy i do own a 2001 acr neon. and will say it has excellent build quality and i really like the interior fit and finish.i traded in a 99 mustang gt for my neon and can say the neons interior is far nicer than the mustang. and everyone has these notions in their head that neons are crap. as a neon owner i can say this just isnt the case. yes the 1st gen neons had big head gasket problems. but every neon built after 9/98 doesnt have this problem. and before i leave i'll state a few facts about my 2001 neon acr's performance. i went 15.4 in the 1/4 mile with my stock (took out the back seat and spare tire) neon. a few months ago in grass roots motorsports monthly there was an auto-x comparison between the acr neon, the svt focus, sentra se-r v-spec, vw gti and civic si. the acr margin of victory was over 4 seconds which is a lifetime in an autocross. im not saying the neon is a "better" car than the svt focus im just saying its a performance match. sorry for the long post.
here is a link to some pic of the srt. http://www.srt4.org/photos.html [ 05-08-2002: Message edited by: acrbill ]</p> |
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TEAM Member
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: PA
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mmmmmm...... SRT-4
Did I mention a friend of mine has a preproduction model for parts development? ![]() Its schweet! |
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TEAM Member
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Boynton Beach Florida
Posts: 520
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I'm sorry Ford guys but that Dodge is absolutley bad ass. This is my first foray into American made cars and I hope I dont regret it. So far 900+ problem free miles other than not having cruise control [img]images/icons/frown.gif[/img]
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Senior TEAM Member
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Tulsa, OK
Posts: 1,433
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thank god! now all the people wanting a 5 door SVTF can just go get this thing! Thank you Dodge! You have saved SVT from humiliation!
On a side note I followed the srt links and whattya know, that interior looks almost exactly like the interior of an SVT....notice the half and half leather seats. wow. they are soooo creative over there in Viperville. I would have never guessed that the grill was going to look like that either....gee [img]images/icons/rolleyes.gif[/img] oh and one more thing ![]() ![]() can someone say ENVY? [ 05-12-2002: Message edited by: inteller ]</p> |
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