Plan Discounts - Focaljet

**Simple6** · 07-23-2001, 01:11 PM

What is the friends/family plan called from Ford?

Can this plan be used to get a SVT?

My roomate's Dad is a higher-up at Ford and I am thinking of asking him for a hook-up.

**dru2002** · 07-23-2001, 10:35 PM

x-plan or a-plan if he actually works for ford i believe its the a-plan and yes it can be used on the svt focus.

**Peloton25** · 07-24-2001, 01:43 AM

Well A-Plan can only be passed on to immediate family members so you wouldn't be eligible for that. But X-Plan saves you almost as much. The problem is finding a dealer that will accept it on an SVT vehicle. In some places, dealers are cool with it - in Cali the dealers are too greedy and I am having problems finding one. I haven't even found someone who will sell me the car for sticker. I have a few more dealers to canvas though in my area.

Good Luck - money saved can go towards mods, right??

>8^)
ER

**SilverSVT** · 07-24-2001, 09:15 AM

Pelotron,

I find that really hard to believe that you can't find a dealer that wont take X-plan. I know that Dealers get a stipend from Ford for selling cars A-plan since its under their cost, but I'm not 100% sure on the X-plan, but would assume that it would work the same way. I'll check this out. Also the thing you might have to do is wait 6 months and see how the sale are. My buddy got a SVT Contour last year without any hassels X-plan price. If the car doesn't move they will be more inclined to cut you slack.

Scott

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1998 Mustang GT for now..
Mods:
K&N
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Steeda Tri-axe shifter handle
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**StreeterSE** · 07-24-2001, 11:26 AM

I got my car under the x-plan. The salesman told me that my price would be 4% above the a-plan price. Then he said that he wouldn't be able to negotiate, kind of like I would want to. Try not letting them know you're going to use the x-plan until the deal is about to close. Don't have the slightest idea if it will work, but it just might. Look for the salesman with the most awards too, they MIGHT be a little easier going than the others.

**Peloton25** · 07-25-2001, 03:18 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by SilverSVT:
Pelotron, HEY, IT'S PELOTON!!

I find that really hard to believe that you can't find a dealer that wont take X-plan.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I can find plenty of dealers that "won't" take my X-Plan.

It's finding one that will take it, that is the problem. I don't want to wait till the enthusiasm wears off on the car - I ordered a 2001 ZX3 last Oct and then cancelled the order to wait for the SVT, so I have already been waiting a lot longer than most people ever would for a car. I think Thameth is the only one who has me beat. When I ordered the ZX3 - X-Plan was "no problem" - but asking for it on an SVT is like a joke... I told one dealer in depth about the Jet and the support we get from SVT and he told me that if I could increase his allocation by one car that he would honor my X-Plan on that car... Yeah right, like that would ever even happen...

Anyway, I want to order a car to my specification - basically zero options, Silver w/blue - and have the dealer give me something in writing that says they'll honor my X-Plan and give me the car at a discount - the SoCal dealers are just too greedy like I said before. They don't want to order a zero option car because they like to load up their SVT's and they know the cars will sell and they will make a guaranteed profit over and above even the sticker price, so why should they help me out?

As far as I am aware - there is nothing in place to force a dealership to accept the plan - whether they get a kickback or not - if they know they'll make more money without honoring it then where is the incentive??

Anyway - there are two more dealers on my list that are close enough to deal with and when I find the time, I'll try my luck with them. Thanks for the suggestions though - anyone else have some??

>8^)
ER

**zx2hot** · 07-25-2001, 08:35 AM

The dealer that I talked to said they woudnt take the x-plan on the price of the car but that i would qualify for the lowest apr w/it.

**BLKZX3** · 07-26-2001, 12:19 AM

Try Bob Baker in San Diego. www.bobbakerford.com They handle Roush and SVT. I barely see ZX3's here so I think there will be plenty of SVT's available.

**wmudavey** · 07-28-2001, 09:32 AM

The X plan is not available on some Ford trucks, Jaguars, etc. One of my friend's is trying to buy a Tribute but can't find a dealer that will take the X or S plan as it is referred to at Mazda dealers because Tributes are in such high demand. It is at the dealer's discretion to take it.
I doubt the A plan will work for the SVT Focus....at least not at first.

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"Can I take your order please?"
"Yes, I will have a 2001 ZX3 with everything on it."
"That will be $17,500 at the first window."
2001 ZX3 with power this and that and Advance Trac, side airbags, moonroof.

**Kennyxcore** · 07-31-2001, 11:56 AM

when i brought up A plan my dealer told me they can't be sure until they get the final msrp and the car but when "it shouldn't be a problem." as long as they get more than like 2 or 3 that is, but considering i live in detroit and they are one of the biggest dealers in the area, i'm not too worried. hell if it got me low apr and a guaruntee sticker sale i'd be happy.

i just want that car.

**gsmooth75** · 08-01-2001, 12:17 AM

Can someone briefly explain what these plans are again?

G

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**SilverSVT** · 08-02-2001, 09:04 AM

Explanation of Plans:

A Plan- the Discount given to Employees of Ford and their immedate Family. Usally you get the price of the car below Dealer cost. For ex. When I got my 98 Mustang GT, the list price was about 22.5K and I got the car after taxes and Tags for $19107. Amount of Discount goes up as the Price does. I belevie that my Moms 2002 EB Explorer which retails about $38000 or so got about 5K taken off it. Some times A plan isn't offered on Certain Vechicles. The SVT Contour (@ first) when it came out is an expanble of this. From the last paperwork I saw on the A plan only vechicles extpet from A plan are the T-bird, Lincon Blackwood and Navagator as far as I can remember.

X Plan- This is the plan for people who know people that work for Ford. They get the car for Sticker price. I have a 4% figure floating in my head that might mean they pay more or less that amount when at dealer cost. My friend got a 2001 SVT Contour last year for about 20.5-21K and the sticker on it is 23K. I'm not 100% how dealers treat X plan since I know for a fact that dealers get a kick back when selling cars A plan to make up for the lost money they would make to the avg joe shumo out there. I have another friend who is looking at getting a Escape in the future and I'll try to find out more about how dealers treat X plan etc. I think someone posted that the Dealer would give them better APR then a better price on the SVT. Thats Total BULL****!!! Most dealers are dickheads and I wouldn't trust them as far as I could throw them.

Z plan: This is for Retired Ford Employees. I guess same rules as the A plan would work here. Don't know about it since my dad isn't retired yet!

Scott

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1998 Mustang GT for now..
Mods:
K&N
Pro 5.0 Shifter
Steeda Tri-axe shifter handle
White Gauge Faces
Koieng Villains with 255/45/17s

**S. on Da 5** · 04-18-2002, 09:31 AM

Mills Ford in Anaheim wont do the X plan and has their black SVT Focus Marked up $5,000! [img]graemlins/thumbdown.gif[/img]

**cannon** · 04-18-2002, 09:47 AM

Unfortunately, dealers are not mandated to accept these plans and often times, even on vehicles with less demand, dealers are either greedy (as has been mentioned) or ignorant of the plans themselves. This is rarely ever a problem at dealers in the vicinity of significant Ford employee populations. Otherwise, they would lose a significant amount of business. In fact, near Ford facilities, A or X plan is usually "red carpet" treatment all the way. For those of you in California (No Ford Plants in Sight), I would try to contact the relatively new "Premium Auto Group" branch of FoMoCo to find out where these employees buy their cars. You will likely get the best X plan sevice in the state there. I'll try to find out exactly where that group is.

**cannon** · 04-18-2002, 09:57 AM

The Premium Auto Group is in Irvine. I'd call around to the dealers in the area. I found a Tuttle-Click Ford. I know nothing about the dealer, but those near Ford employees will most likely be the most willing to work with you. Good Luck.

**Shiva Chaos** · 04-18-2002, 10:35 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr> Please be advised that effective with vehicles delivered on May 1, 2002 and after, X-Plan program pricing will be revised as follows:

Ford & Mercury Products: $150 Increase
Calculation: (A-Plan + 4% + $150)
Lincoln Products: $250 Increase
Calculation: (A-Plan + 4% + $250) <hr></blockquote>

[ 04-18-2002: Message edited by: Shiva Chaos ]

**SlickShoes** · 04-18-2002, 11:10 AM

Kearny Mesa Ford in San Diego also was happy to give me X-plan pricing. Very good to deal with also.

**garyrich** · 04-18-2002, 11:12 AM

I just picked up my SVT x-plan is socal yesterday. The local dealers don't deserve your business until they wake up and realize it's 2002. Do what I did - disintermediate them. Call Steve Miskuk at Village Ford in Dearborn and have it drop shipped to your local (worthless) dealer.

**svtfocuspower** · 04-18-2002, 11:22 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by wmudavey:
The X plan is not available on some Ford trucks, Jaguars, etc. One of my friend's is trying to buy a Tribute but can't find a dealer that will take the X or S plan as it is referred to at Mazda dealers because Tributes are in such high demand. It is at the dealer's discretion to take it.
I doubt the A plan will work for the SVT Focus....at least not at first.

<hr></blockquote>

I ordered mine with a-plan. $19,660 before, $17,800 after a-plan.

**wmudavey** · 04-21-2002, 11:58 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by svtfocuspower:

I ordered mine with a-plan. $19,660 before, $17,800 after a-plan.<hr></blockquote>

Yea great look at the date that I said that!

They still won't accept the college grad money, special financing or rebates on SVTs.

Outside of MI....A plan is hard to convince a dealer to accept.

Did you order all the options?

**dansmurf** · 04-22-2002, 02:15 AM

The A-plan is at dealership dicretion but all the rebates are not given from Ford for the SVT.
I just picked mine up on D-plan which is the same as the A-plan but given to dealership employes.

07-23-2001, 01:11 PM	#1
Simple6 Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 1,255	Plan Discounts What is the friends/family plan called from Ford? Can this plan be used to get a SVT? My roomate's Dad is a higher-up at Ford and I am thinking of asking him for a hook-up.

07-23-2001, 10:35 PM	#2
dru2002 Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Posts: 1,089	Re: Plan Discounts x-plan or a-plan if he actually works for ford i believe its the a-plan and yes it can be used on the svt focus.

07-24-2001, 01:43 AM	#3
Peloton25 Mr Know-It-All Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Moorpark, CA USA Posts: 21,779	Re: Plan Discounts Well A-Plan can only be passed on to immediate family members so you wouldn't be eligible for that. But X-Plan saves you almost as much. The problem is finding a dealer that will accept it on an SVT vehicle. In some places, dealers are cool with it - in Cali the dealers are too greedy and I am having problems finding one. I haven't even found someone who will sell me the car for sticker. I have a few more dealers to canvas though in my area. Good Luck - money saved can go towards mods, right?? >8^) ER

07-24-2001, 09:15 AM	#4
SilverSVT Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: NJ Posts: 4,972	Re: Plan Discounts Pelotron, I find that really hard to believe that you can't find a dealer that wont take X-plan. I know that Dealers get a stipend from Ford for selling cars A-plan since its under their cost, but I'm not 100% sure on the X-plan, but would assume that it would work the same way. I'll check this out. Also the thing you might have to do is wait 6 months and see how the sale are. My buddy got a SVT Contour last year without any hassels X-plan price. If the car doesn't move they will be more inclined to cut you slack. Scott ------------------ 1998 Mustang GT for now.. Mods: K&N Pro 5.0 Shifter Steeda Tri-axe shifter handle White Gauge Faces Koieng Villains with 255/45/17s

07-24-2001, 11:26 AM	#5
StreeterSE TEAM Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Westerville, OH Posts: 205	Re: Plan Discounts I got my car under the x-plan. The salesman told me that my price would be 4% above the a-plan price. Then he said that he wouldn't be able to negotiate, kind of like I would want to. Try not letting them know you're going to use the x-plan until the deal is about to close. Don't have the slightest idea if it will work, but it just might. Look for the salesman with the most awards too, they MIGHT be a little easier going than the others.

07-25-2001, 03:18 AM	#6
Peloton25 Mr Know-It-All Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Moorpark, CA USA Posts: 21,779	Re: Plan Discounts <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SilverSVT: Pelotron, HEY, IT'S PELOTON!! I find that really hard to believe that you can't find a dealer that wont take X-plan. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> I can find plenty of dealers that "won't" take my X-Plan. It's finding one that will take it, that is the problem. I don't want to wait till the enthusiasm wears off on the car - I ordered a 2001 ZX3 last Oct and then cancelled the order to wait for the SVT, so I have already been waiting a lot longer than most people ever would for a car. I think Thameth is the only one who has me beat. When I ordered the ZX3 - X-Plan was "no problem" - but asking for it on an SVT is like a joke... I told one dealer in depth about the Jet and the support we get from SVT and he told me that if I could increase his allocation by one car that he would honor my X-Plan on that car... Yeah right, like that would ever even happen... Anyway, I want to order a car to my specification - basically zero options, Silver w/blue - and have the dealer give me something in writing that says they'll honor my X-Plan and give me the car at a discount - the SoCal dealers are just too greedy like I said before. They don't want to order a zero option car because they like to load up their SVT's and they know the cars will sell and they will make a guaranteed profit over and above even the sticker price, so why should they help me out? As far as I am aware - there is nothing in place to force a dealership to accept the plan - whether they get a kickback or not - if they know they'll make more money without honoring it then where is the incentive?? Anyway - there are two more dealers on my list that are close enough to deal with and when I find the time, I'll try my luck with them. Thanks for the suggestions though - anyone else have some?? >8^) ER

07-25-2001, 08:35 AM	#7
zx2hot Rookie Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Ringgold,Ga Posts: 23	Re: Plan Discounts The dealer that I talked to said they woudnt take the x-plan on the price of the car but that i would qualify for the lowest apr w/it.

07-26-2001, 12:19 AM	#8
BLKZX3 TEAM Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: San Diego, CA USA Posts: 205	Re: Plan Discounts Try Bob Baker in San Diego. www.bobbakerford.com They handle Roush and SVT. I barely see ZX3's here so I think there will be plenty of SVT's available.

07-28-2001, 09:32 AM	#9
wmudavey Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 3,267	Re: Plan Discounts The X plan is not available on some Ford trucks, Jaguars, etc. One of my friend's is trying to buy a Tribute but can't find a dealer that will take the X or S plan as it is referred to at Mazda dealers because Tributes are in such high demand. It is at the dealer's discretion to take it. I doubt the A plan will work for the SVT Focus....at least not at first. ------------------ "Can I take your order please?" "Yes, I will have a 2001 ZX3 with everything on it." "That will be $17,500 at the first window." 2001 ZX3 with power this and that and Advance Trac, side airbags, moonroof.

07-31-2001, 11:56 AM	#10
Kennyxcore Junior Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Bloomfield, Michigan, USA Posts: 98	Re: Plan Discounts when i brought up A plan my dealer told me they can't be sure until they get the final msrp and the car but when "it shouldn't be a problem." as long as they get more than like 2 or 3 that is, but considering i live in detroit and they are one of the biggest dealers in the area, i'm not too worried. hell if it got me low apr and a guaruntee sticker sale i'd be happy. i just want that car.

08-01-2001, 12:17 AM	#11
gsmooth75 TEAM Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Antioch, CA, USA Posts: 391	Re: Plan Discounts Can someone briefly explain what these plans are again? G ------------------ FS Coolflo Intake,FS Blue Plug Wires, Esslinger UDP, Diablo Chip, Hella Duals, Shorty antenna, Tinted Windows 5% rear,Blaupunkt CD-70 San Francisco, 200 Watt Amp,8" Kicker Tube (bumps!!),Clifford Proximity Alarm FUTURE MODS ( if no SVT): New Kent Cam Gears, custom exhaust, FS Street Header, H&R cup Kit, TSW REVO's or Rage 5.0 (17's)

08-02-2001, 09:04 AM	#12
SilverSVT Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: NJ Posts: 4,972	Re: Plan Discounts Explanation of Plans: A Plan- the Discount given to Employees of Ford and their immedate Family. Usally you get the price of the car below Dealer cost. For ex. When I got my 98 Mustang GT, the list price was about 22.5K and I got the car after taxes and Tags for $19107. Amount of Discount goes up as the Price does. I belevie that my Moms 2002 EB Explorer which retails about $38000 or so got about 5K taken off it. Some times A plan isn't offered on Certain Vechicles. The SVT Contour (@ first) when it came out is an expanble of this. From the last paperwork I saw on the A plan only vechicles extpet from A plan are the T-bird, Lincon Blackwood and Navagator as far as I can remember. X Plan- This is the plan for people who know people that work for Ford. They get the car for Sticker price. I have a 4% figure floating in my head that might mean they pay more or less that amount when at dealer cost. My friend got a 2001 SVT Contour last year for about 20.5-21K and the sticker on it is 23K. I'm not 100% how dealers treat X plan since I know for a fact that dealers get a kick back when selling cars A plan to make up for the lost money they would make to the avg joe shumo out there. I have another friend who is looking at getting a Escape in the future and I'll try to find out more about how dealers treat X plan etc. I think someone posted that the Dealer would give them better APR then a better price on the SVT. Thats Total BULL****!!! Most dealers are dickheads and I wouldn't trust them as far as I could throw them. Z plan: This is for Retired Ford Employees. I guess same rules as the A plan would work here. Don't know about it since my dad isn't retired yet! Scott ------------------ 1998 Mustang GT for now.. Mods: K&N Pro 5.0 Shifter Steeda Tri-axe shifter handle White Gauge Faces Koieng Villains with 255/45/17s

04-18-2002, 09:31 AM	#13
S. on Da 5 Moderator Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: S. Cali., USA Posts: 12,316	Re: Plan Discounts Mills Ford in Anaheim wont do the X plan and has their black SVT Focus Marked up $5,000! [img]graemlins/thumbdown.gif[/img]

04-18-2002, 09:47 AM	#14
cannon Rookie Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Western NY Posts: 33	Re: Plan Discounts Unfortunately, dealers are not mandated to accept these plans and often times, even on vehicles with less demand, dealers are either greedy (as has been mentioned) or ignorant of the plans themselves. This is rarely ever a problem at dealers in the vicinity of significant Ford employee populations. Otherwise, they would lose a significant amount of business. In fact, near Ford facilities, A or X plan is usually "red carpet" treatment all the way. For those of you in California (No Ford Plants in Sight), I would try to contact the relatively new "Premium Auto Group" branch of FoMoCo to find out where these employees buy their cars. You will likely get the best X plan sevice in the state there. I'll try to find out exactly where that group is.

04-18-2002, 09:57 AM	#15
cannon Rookie Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Western NY Posts: 33	Re: Plan Discounts The Premium Auto Group is in Irvine. I'd call around to the dealers in the area. I found a Tuttle-Click Ford. I know nothing about the dealer, but those near Ford employees will most likely be the most willing to work with you. Good Luck.

04-18-2002, 10:35 AM	#16
Shiva Chaos [FJ] Specialist Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: under your bed Posts: 7,331	Re: Plan Discounts <blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr> Please be advised that effective with vehicles delivered on May 1, 2002 and after, X-Plan program pricing will be revised as follows: Ford & Mercury Products: $150 Increase Calculation: (A-Plan + 4% + $150) Lincoln Products: $250 Increase Calculation: (A-Plan + 4% + $250) <hr></blockquote> [ 04-18-2002: Message edited by: Shiva Chaos ]</p>

04-18-2002, 11:10 AM	#17
SlickShoes Moderator Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Little Lebowski Urban Achiever Posts: 7,682	Re: Plan Discounts Kearny Mesa Ford in San Diego also was happy to give me X-plan pricing. Very good to deal with also.

04-18-2002, 11:12 AM	#18
garyrich Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Santa Clarita California Posts: 1,574	Re: Plan Discounts I just picked up my SVT x-plan is socal yesterday. The local dealers don't deserve your business until they wake up and realize it's 2002. Do what I did - disintermediate them. Call Steve Miskuk at Village Ford in Dearborn and have it drop shipped to your local (worthless) dealer.

04-18-2002, 11:22 AM	#19
svtfocuspower Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Westland, MI Posts: 1,329	Re: Plan Discounts <blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by wmudavey: The X plan is not available on some Ford trucks, Jaguars, etc. One of my friend's is trying to buy a Tribute but can't find a dealer that will take the X or S plan as it is referred to at Mazda dealers because Tributes are in such high demand. It is at the dealer's discretion to take it. I doubt the A plan will work for the SVT Focus....at least not at first. <hr></blockquote> I ordered mine with a-plan. $19,660 before, $17,800 after a-plan.

04-21-2002, 11:58 AM	#20
wmudavey Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 3,267	Re: Plan Discounts <blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by svtfocuspower: I ordered mine with a-plan. $19,660 before, $17,800 after a-plan.<hr></blockquote> Yea great look at the date that I said that! They still won't accept the college grad money, special financing or rebates on SVTs. Outside of MI....A plan is hard to convince a dealer to accept. Did you order all the options?

04-22-2002, 02:15 AM	#21
dansmurf TEAM Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Hamburg NY /Nashville TN Posts: 819	Re: Plan Discounts The A-plan is at dealership dicretion but all the rebates are not given from Ford for the SVT. I just picked mine up on D-plan which is the same as the A-plan but given to dealership employes.

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