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Old 04-15-2002, 05:12 PM   #1
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Couple of observations for all of you that are still waiting on the car. Mine had 33 test driven miles on it when delivered. A card in the side window indicated that the mileage was accumulated at the test facility of SVT. The other car that arrived at the dealer did as well. That's good.

Filled the gas tank for the first time after doing gentle break in driving (nothing over 4,500 RPM, no full throttle acceleration). 24 MPG if you can believe it. Surely not typical of the engine, but pretty encouraging for a start.

On up shifts the revs tend to drop off pretty slowly. When you release throttle and clutch the tach needle drops at a very casual rate. When double de-clutching for downshifts it takes a pretty good stab on the throttle pedal to get the revs to jump up (especially when doing a heel and toe type shift). Perhaps engine will begin to get a bit more loose with use. Good news is that throttle and brake pedals are fairly well placed for heel and toe.

AC will freeze you out. Unfortunately its like tossing a boat anchor out the window. Most noticeable from a standing start. Once you're moving it isn't a problem. Does not affect cruise control at speed. Won't have it on for track work anyhow.

Still most impressed with wide torque band of this little engine. Still not a single rattle or squeek from the car, and no word on throttle cable recall as of yet.

Good luck. Hope your cars arrive soon.
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Old 04-15-2002, 05:42 PM   #2
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Your was a test vehicle? Hmmm

Wonder if yours was a part of the training.
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Old 04-15-2002, 05:53 PM   #3
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Hey davester, I have read on here several times that you shouldnt use your cruise control until after the initial break-in.

just thought I'd share.

Oh, and what exactly do they do durring "testing"?
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Old 04-15-2002, 06:08 PM   #4
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I got mine today and wanted to post a few comments. First of all what a great ride it is in all aspects. This car wants to move, trust me I had to control myself. I want to try to break it in slowly [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img]

The pictures do not give the sonic blue color justice, the color is simply fantastic looking in person. I did have a small personal problem with the 6 speed, like trying to start out a couple times in 3rd [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img] Hey, old 5 speed habits are hard to break. I have feeling that I'm going to be owning this car for quite some time, perhaps forever [img]graemlins/thumbup.gif[/img]

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Old 04-15-2002, 06:13 PM   #5
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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by hoop-d:
Oh, and what exactly do they do durring "testing"?<hr></blockquote>

They test. Make sure everything gets the [img]graemlins/thumbup.gif[/img] . Pretty sure this is always done on the first X amount of cars of the line.
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Old 04-15-2002, 06:14 PM   #6
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I just drove mine home for the first time!

Yup i finally got her! Ur absolutely correct pictures don't do the color justice. Its truly a color changing paint. I like the 6spd, but i have to get used to the pedals. Those lil black rubber knobs on the pedals really grab ur shoes, especially if ur wearing sneakers. Well i'll have pics up soon in the Arrivals thread. Time to go for a drive! [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]

Ohhh ohh ohh couldn't forget.... Gotta love the TORQUE! [img]graemlins/thumbup.gif[/img]
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Old 04-15-2002, 06:15 PM   #7
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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Thameth:
I just drove mine home for the first time!
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What is the word on the safety recall? Did you get any info from your dealer?
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Old 04-15-2002, 06:19 PM   #8
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I also just picked up mine from the dealer and love it. As for the safety recall, they have not heard anything about it. Don't know if it has not filtered down to the dealers yet or if they just gave me the car so I would leave them alone [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 04-15-2002, 06:20 PM   #9
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Only used cruise long enough to determine that it works OK and to see how AC affects it. What you don't want to do is maintain constant speeds for extended periods, and that is what a cruise control will do of course.

Called my dealer RE the test miles. I was told both my car and the second one they received that day had the same test miles. As he understood it all SVT focus cars will have been road tested with gentle driving techniques by SVT personnel to check for any potential problems before the cars go out to the owner. Vehicles used for dealer training, journalist road tests, etc will NOT be offered for sale to the public. To look at my car you certainly could not detect that anyone had even sat in it, let alone driven it. BMW does the same thing with its' M series performance cars, although not for as much distance. But you're right. It does make you wonder. Can only assume SVT is busting their hump to make these cars right the first time around.
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Old 04-15-2002, 06:28 PM   #10
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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by OTTOMATIC:

What is the word on the safety recall? Did you get any info from your dealer?
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They didn't say a word and niether did I. When i get my letter i'll give them a call and bring the car in once they have the parts. Worse case scenario i'll stomp on the clutch, then brake.

Pictures uploading! [img]graemlins/thumbup.gif[/img]
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Old 04-15-2002, 06:31 PM   #11
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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by davester:
Called my dealer RE the test miles. I was told both my car and the second one they received that day had the same test miles. As he understood it all SVT focus cars will have been road tested with gentle driving techniques by SVT personnel to check for any potential problems before the cars go out to the owner.<hr></blockquote>

I thought that 'gentle driving techniques' and 'SVT personnel' can't go in the same sentance together. Isn't it the same as saying 'it's only $1,000,000?' [img]graemlins/lol.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/lol.gif[/img]

But thanks for the great info! I'm still waiting impatiently for my S1 SVT [img]images/icons/rolleyes.gif[/img]

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Old 04-15-2002, 07:14 PM   #12
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Question on the A/C does it cut out when you are at WOT? I know most cars kill the compressor on the car when you hit a certain RPM and kicks back on when it goes below that.
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Old 04-15-2002, 08:57 PM   #13
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Haven't been @ WOT yet so i couldn't tell ya. But oohhhh boy did i just have an experience. Here it is,

Rolling in traffic about 40mph in 3rd gear at 3500 rpm. Car in front of me is just going waaay to slow, but i don't want to floor it to get past. Well i think lets see what this things got. I'm at 1/4th throttle and slowly move to 3/4ths throttle. HOLY CRAP the car REALLY starts to move with ease. Suddenly i'm going 65 @ about 6000 rpm and flying by that guy with no real pushing of the car. I can just imagine if i had downgeared and floored it! I'm really loving this and its only the first day! [img]images/icons/cool.gif[/img]

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Old 04-16-2002, 09:53 AM   #14
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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by davester:
On up shifts the revs tend to drop off pretty slowly. When you release throttle and clutch the tach needle drops at a very casual rate...<hr></blockquote>

FWIW, Contour owners (with V6's, at least) have griped about this for years. Go to contour.org and search for "throttle hang."

I suspect what you're seeing is part of the emissions control strategy... If you lift off of the throttle quickly, an air bypass valve opens to deliver more air to the engine, in effect making the throttle close more slowly. This reduces the amount of unburned fuel (and, hence, bad emissions) that goes out the tailpipe when the throttle snaps shut.

The "throttle hang fix" published at Contour.org involves putting a restriction (brass plug with a small hole drilled in it) in this air bypass line. I haven't done it, but people swear by it.

Oops, I can hear the EPA knocking on my door right now... [img]images/icons/shocked.gif[/img]

Congrats to those who have received their SVT's. [img]graemlins/thumbup.gif[/img] Here's to the start of a beautiful relationship! [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 04-16-2002, 10:40 AM   #15
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you guys keep these great reports coming in and it MAY tide me over until mine gets here.

Now, can someone PLEASE post some exhaust sounds for us?
thanks,
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Old 04-16-2002, 11:09 AM   #16
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you all suck and need to die! and leave me your SVT.....damn....how jelous i am
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Old 04-16-2002, 02:15 PM   #17
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I picked mine up last night and it only had 13 miles on it. Most of that due to the fact that my salesperson took it to get it gassed up. All the other salespeople are irritated that they didn't get to drive it. Anyway, you guys that already have yours, is it just me or does the car seem to want to drive itself when you are changing lanes or something. Just barely moving the wheel and the car will almost jump into the next lane like it knew where you wanted to go. And I have to agree with Thameth, the car is deceptively quick when accelerating. I found myself doing 70mph in a 40 zone and had no idea. Can't wait to get it on some twisty roads.
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Old 04-16-2002, 02:27 PM   #18
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Slayer420 - most likely it is because you are finally driving a car that HANDLES instead of just goes down the road. Wide, low profile tires help a lot also.

My '96 Mustang GT with the Kenny Brown AGS 2 suspension system does the same thing. First time I drove it after putting on the kit I grinned from ear to ear for a week.

Handling is good..
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Old 04-16-2002, 04:31 PM   #19
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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Mike-SVT:
Slayer420 - most likely it is because you are finally driving a car that HANDLES instead of just goes down the road. Wide, low profile tires help a lot also.
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I've found that Wide, Low profile tires can be a bitch at times on worn roads....you get "sucked" into the grooves that normally get worn in the road from regual traffic patterns. I run into this with my Mustang and its a big PIA...feels like your getting jerked around the road at times.

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Old 04-16-2002, 04:43 PM   #20
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My 73 Impala jerks me around the road, especially near the painted lines on the sides. Doesn't ever look like there is a groove there, but the car lets you know it. Yes, Handling is great, and this is definitely the best handling car I have ever driven.
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Old 04-16-2002, 05:07 PM   #21
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ditto on the wide, low profile tires "sucking" the car into the groove.

Safety message here: stay alert and watch for it..
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Old 04-16-2002, 05:54 PM   #22
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that is known as tracking.
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Old 04-16-2002, 09:32 PM   #23
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Or in England it's known as tramlining.
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Old 04-16-2002, 11:07 PM   #24
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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr> FWIW, Contour owners (with V6's, at least) have griped about this for years. Go to contour.org and search for "throttle hang."

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I had an SVT Contour with the worst throttle hang problem known to mankind. Ford and SVT claimed it was designed to do that. Mine used to hang at 5000 revs for 15-20 seconds. When you came off the Gas the thing accelerated !!!
One nice dealer replaced the IAC and everything was fine for a month. It went in for a service and was giving failing OBD codes so the dealers "fixed it back for me!!!".

I even took out an SVT guy out in the car and he admitted there was a problem (off the record)but that due to the low production numbers (&lt;5000 a year) Ford would not do anything about it. In the end I got so fed up with the car I dumped it for a huge loss and bought the Focus (all i could afford). I should have done the fix but by then I had lost all sense and reason.

I am convinced SVT wouldnt make the same mistake twice. Didnt "SCC" say that it had a Lazy Tach ?

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Old 04-16-2002, 11:33 PM   #25
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davester, now that you've received your SVT (congrats, btw, hope you're enjoying it!), can you tell me if the side mirrors on the SVT Focus can be folded in? Or are they fixed like on the standard Focuses?

I've tried to tell by looking at the photos, but I can't really make it out. A close-up photo would be great if they do fold [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img]
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