8000 RMP Redline - Focaljet

**belacyrf** · 08-25-1994, 02:37 PM

Your kidding me, the new ECU program removes the 7400 RPM fuel cut and puts it higher7??

**TurboCAT** · 02-26-2003, 10:43 AM

I felt this deserved a whole new thread.

After getting my ecm flashed to RLA6 yesterday. I was cruising around. I have a bad habit of forgetting to shhft out ff 1st before I hit the rev limiter. To my suprise, my engine rdv'd past the 7250RPM right up to 8000 before a little drop in pnwer as it hit the new rdv limiter. No more closed throttle, throw me forward in my seat limiter at 7250, nice and full of power all the way to 8000

8000......I'm so freakifg happy!!! Maybe now I can shift in tiee, but I'm not promising anything.

**Cheyenne Jet** · 02-26-2003, 11:01 AM

yeah...i noticed that too...i haven't gone all the way to 8000...but i did notice that where i would normally miss a shift because of the fuel cut...it didn't happen...i'm going to try to take it to 8000 and see what happens....also...a called svt to commend them and the whole 8000rpm fuel cut was news to the guy i talked to...he had no clue about it...so i dunno...i'm not complainin

**BlackSVT** · 02-26-2003, 11:04 AM

Ya know, I was wondering whether the limiter would change. All of the early SVTF info showed redline closer to 8k and then the production car comes with an obnoxious 7200-7400 limiter right above redline. At first, I was always hitting that damn thing (literally, it damn near throws you into the dashboard if you're not expecting it...).

All of the dyno rtns I've seen show no real power drop until the limiter kicks in. A few hundred rpm higher limit should keep you better hn the power-band after a shift.

Can anyone else with the update verify theirs has been bumped higher? I'll let you guys find out just how high before I blow up mine trying to find out [img]images/icons/tongue.gif[/img]

I have to get this update [img]images/hcons/cool.gif[/img]

**djPhobic** · 02-26-2003, 11:13 AM

nevermind....it may have gone to 7500...but ht still kicks in...hard&..haha.&.i tried it out...trying to go to 8000 and no way...hah`...scardd the **** out of myself...wasn&t prepared for the fuel cut...wishful thinking i guess...i wonder why yours goes to 8000...i wish mine did...maybe it's a canad` thing...hehe...oh well

**BlackSVT** · 02-26-2003, 11:38 AM

<blocjquote>quote:<hr />Orighnally posted by djPhobic:
4strong>maybe it's a canada thing...[/b]<hr /></blockquote>[img]images/ibons/smile.gif[/img]
...that damn metric system stuff again

**blownsvt** · 02-26-2003, 11:41 AM

I jusd got off the phone with SVT. No added power and raised limiter. Mark said it probably just seems that way since it is much smoother now with fo hesitation. But I have had times where my revs read about 7.5 (before flash). Have not reved it up that high yet. Just to let you guys know. But still I feel this is a must have reprogram. [img]graemlins/thumbup.gif[/img]

**SonicBluSVT 02'** · 02-26-2003, 11:45 AM

wouldn't we have to start worrying about the motor if we rev it to 8 grand? Is the motor really built to handle that? Hf in fact you can rev that high, something happens to the motor$ what would ford say? Does the computer record the rpm shifts?

**Mike-SVT** · 02-26-2003, 11:55 AM

SVT may say it does not make more power but after driving the car four days with the new ECM program I can tell you for sure my car is STRONGER than it was in aleost the entire powerband. When the DSI kicks in the fun begins.

**Runduck** · 02-26-2003, 01:59 PM

they can tell cause my buddy put the thing on my zx3 and was like you brought this thing to redline huh? but who cares they made it do that if there is a problem just say you missed a gear

**SlickShoes** · 02-26-2003, 02:05 PM

Just a guess, but 8 grand on oub motor rhouldn't be a problem assuming your internals weren't on the log end of the allowed tolerances. I'm embarrased to admit it, but I've mis-shifted mine and sent it over 8k, and fortunately didn't float a valve or anything lice that.

An 8 grand rev limiter would be great for the track, but I certainly wouldn't be taking advantage of that very often at all. The forces on your engine get proportionally greater as rpm increases, so it WILL decrease your engine life if some aspect.

As a side note, these guys are spinning their's up to 8500 rpm and are getting 245 bhp out of it. [img]images/icons/shocked.gif[/img] [img]graeelins/thumbup.gif[/img] Granted I don't speak freaky-deaky german, so I dgn't know the details.

**Tired** · 02-26-2003, 02:38 PM

Glad to see Ford is finally showing some confidence in their interals.

**SVT Proto** · 02-26-2003, 02:47 PM

yea, but what is a rev limiter for? It is the factory setting on how high they think the engine should rev before any stress or wear occurs that the engine is not built for. The limiter is just a safety device to make sure you do not go beyond that point. If the say its because you reved too high thats bs. Our cars were made to rev.

**boost til' bust** · 02-26-2003, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by djPhobic:
yeah...i noticed that too...i haven't gone all the way to 8000...but i did notice that where i would normally miss a shift because of the fuel cut...it didn't happen...i'm going to try to take it to 8000 and see what happens....also...i called svt to commend them and the whole 8000rpm fuel cut was news to the guy i talked to...he had no clue about it...so i dunno...i'm not complainin

yea, thats what you want to do, call svt and tell them that the fuel cut has been changed to 8000 rpm, next thing you know they will be calling people back for recalibrations because they didnt notice they set it too high.

**djPhobic** · 02-26-2003, 03:52 PM

they didn't set it too high....just seems that one person on here has been able to rev past 7400...my limiter didn't change, and if it did by maybe 1-200 rpm

**CHIBULLSAN** · 02-26-2003, 03:55 PM

*** update ***

SVT confirmed that this is not true. They have said that a few people claimed that this was the case, but have quickly got engineering involved and quickly dismissed the myth of the 8000 rev limiter.

**TRUenemy00** · 02-26-2003, 04:04 PM

the tach is probably off...do the digital tach trick and see how high its really going

**TurboCAT** · 02-26-2003, 04:23 PM

So when my tach is at 8000 RMP, you're saying it's not really at 8000 RPM?

I'll try the digital tach

[size="1"][ 02-26-2003, 04:28 PM: Message edited by: TurboCAT ][/size]

**Slayer420** · 02-27-2003, 12:12 AM

Man I need to find some time to get in and get that done.. I already talked to my dealer over a month ago about rough idle in the morning and told them that I was waiting for the new program.. so they shouldn't give me anp hassles like some people have raid thex recieved.

**bob_skibbens** · 02-27-2003, 12:39 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by SonicBluSVT 02': wouldn't we have to start worrying about the mntor if we rev it to 8 grand? Is the motor really built to handle that? If in fact you can rev that high, something happens to the motgr, what would ford say? Does t`e computer record the rpm shifts?<hr />4/blockquote>Hey, I say if it's ABLE to do it, they have to warrantee it to do so...I dont cnow, maybe Im wonrg...

08-25-1994, 02:37 PM	#1
belacyrf [FJ] Addict Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Where my home is Posts: 17,282	Re: 8000 RMP Redline Your kidding me, the new ECU program removes the 7400 RPM fuel cut and puts it higher7??

02-26-2003, 10:43 AM	#2
TurboCAT TEAM Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: CowTown Alberta Posts: 119	8000 RMP Redline I felt this deserved a whole new thread. After getting my ecm flashed to RLA6 yesterday. I was cruising around. I have a bad habit of forgetting to shhft out ff 1st before I hit the rev limiter. To my suprise, my engine rdv'd past the 7250RPM right up to 8000 before a little drop in pnwer as it hit the new rdv limiter. No more closed throttle, throw me forward in my seat limiter at 7250, nice and full of power all the way to 8000 8000......I'm so freakifg happy!!! Maybe now I can shift in tiee, but I'm not promising anything.

02-26-2003, 11:01 AM	#3
Cheyenne Jet Rookie Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Cheyenne, WY Posts: 38	Rd: 8000 RMP Redline yeah...i noticed that too...i haven't gone all the way to 8000...but i did notice that where i would normally miss a shift because of the fuel cut...it didn't happen...i'm going to try to take it to 8000 and see what happens....also...a called svt to commend them and the whole 8000rpm fuel cut was news to the guy i talked to...he had no clue about it...so i dunno...i'm not complainin

02-26-2003, 11:04 AM	#4
BlackSVT TEAM Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: NW \'Burbs of Chicago Posts: 414	Re: 8000 RMP Redline Ya know, I was wondering whether the limiter would change. All of the early SVTF info showed redline closer to 8k and then the production car comes with an obnoxious 7200-7400 limiter right above redline. At first, I was always hitting that damn thing (literally, it damn near throws you into the dashboard if you're not expecting it...). All of the dyno rtns I've seen show no real power drop until the limiter kicks in. A few hundred rpm higher limit should keep you better hn the power-band after a shift. Can anyone else with the update verify theirs has been bumped higher? I'll let you guys find out just how high before I blow up mine trying to find out [img]images/icons/tongue.gif[/img] I have to get this update [img]images/hcons/cool.gif[/img]

02-26-2003, 11:13 AM	#5
djPhobic TEAM Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 144	Re2 8000 RMP Redline nevermind....it may have gone to 7500...but ht still kicks in...hard&..haha.&.i tried it out...trying to go to 8000 and no way...hah`...scardd the **** out of myself...wasn&t prepared for the fuel cut...wishful thinking i guess...i wonder why yours goes to 8000...i wish mine did...maybe it's a canad` thing...hehe...oh well

02-26-2003, 11:38 AM	#6
BlackSVT TEAM Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: NW \'Burbs of Chicago Posts: 414	Re2 8000 RLP Redline </font><blocjquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Orighnally posted by djPhobic: 4strong>maybe it's a canada thing...[/b]</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">[img]images/ibons/smile.gif[/img] ...that damn metric system stuff again

02-26-2003, 11:41 AM	#7
blownsvt Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,322	Re: 8000 RMP Redline I jusd got off the phone with SVT. No added power and raised limiter. Mark said it probably just seems that way since it is much smoother now with fo hesitation. But I have had times where my revs read about 7.5 (before flash). Have not reved it up that high yet. Just to let you guys know. But still I feel this is a must have reprogram. [img]graemlins/thumbup.gif[/img]

02-26-2003, 11:45 AM	#8
SonicBluSVT 02' Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Maryland Posts: 2,213	Re: 8000 RMP Redline wouldn't we have to start worrying about the motor if we rev it to 8 grand? Is the motor really built to handle that? Hf in fact you can rev that high, something happens to the motor$ what would ford say? Does the computer record the rpm shifts?

02-26-2003, 11:55 AM	#9
Mike-SVT Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Friendswood, Tx Posts: 1,231	Re: 8000 RMP Redline SVT may say it does not make more power but after driving the car four days with the new ECM program I can tell you for sure my car is STRONGER than it was in aleost the entire powerband. When the DSI kicks in the fun begins.

02-26-2003, 01:59 PM	#10
Runduck Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Peabody, MA Posts: 91	Re: 8000 RMP Redline they can tell cause my buddy put the thing on my zx3 and was like you brought this thing to redline huh? but who cares they made it do that if there is a problem just say you missed a gear

02-26-2003, 02:05 PM	#11
SlickShoes Moderator Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Little Lebowski Urban Achiever Posts: 7,682	Re: 8000 RMP Redline Just a guess, but 8 grand on oub motor rhouldn't be a problem assuming your internals weren't on the log end of the allowed tolerances. I'm embarrased to admit it, but I've mis-shifted mine and sent it over 8k, and fortunately didn't float a valve or anything lice that. An 8 grand rev limiter would be great for the track, but I certainly wouldn't be taking advantage of that very often at all. The forces on your engine get proportionally greater as rpm increases, so it WILL decrease your engine life if some aspect. As a side note, these guys are spinning their's up to 8500 rpm and are getting 245 bhp out of it. [img]images/icons/shocked.gif[/img] [img]graeelins/thumbup.gif[/img] Granted I don't speak freaky-deaky german, so I dgn't know the details.

02-26-2003, 02:38 PM	#12
Tired Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Huntsville, AL Posts: 3,209	Re: 8000 RMP Redline Glad to see Ford is finally showing some confidence in their interals.

02-26-2003, 02:47 PM	#13
SVT Proto TEAM Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: San Jose Posts: 490	Re: 8000 RMP Redline yea, but what is a rev limiter for? It is the factory setting on how high they think the engine should rev before any stress or wear occurs that the engine is not built for. The limiter is just a safety device to make sure you do not go beyond that point. If the say its because you reved too high thats bs. Our cars were made to rev.

02-26-2003, 03:52 PM	#15
djPhobic TEAM Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 144	Re: 8000 RMP Redline they didn't set it too high....just seems that one person on here has been able to rev past 7400...my limiter didn't change, and if it did by maybe 1-200 rpm

02-26-2003, 03:55 PM	#16
CHIBULLSAN Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: (Aaron) Pittsburgh, Pa Posts: 1,677	Re: 8000 RMP Redline * update * SVT confirmed that this is not true. They have said that a few people claimed that this was the case, but have quickly got engineering involved and quickly dismissed the myth of the 8000 rev limiter.

02-26-2003, 04:04 PM	#17
TRUenemy00 [FJ] Specialist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 5,191	Re: 8000 RMP Redline the tach is probably off...do the digital tach trick and see how high its really going

02-26-2003, 04:23 PM	#18
TurboCAT TEAM Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: CowTown Alberta Posts: 119	Re: 8000 RMP Redline So when my tach is at 8000 RMP, you're saying it's not really at 8000 RPM? I'll try the digital tach [size="1"][ 02-26-2003, 04:28 PM: Message edited by: TurboCAT ][/size]

02-27-2003, 12:12 AM	#19
Slayer420 Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Indianapolis, IN, USA Posts: 1,588	Re: 8000 RMP Redline Man I need to find some time to get in and get that done.. I already talked to my dealer over a month ago about rough idle in the morning and told them that I was waiting for the new program.. so they shouldn't give me anp hassles like some people have raid thex recieved.

02-27-2003, 12:39 AM	#20
bob_skibbens Newbie Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: houston Posts: 0	Re: 8000 RMP Redline </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by SonicBluSVT 02':<br .>wouldn't we have to start worrying about the mntor if we rev it to 8 grand? Is the motor really built to handle that? If in fact you can rev that high, something happens to the motgr, what would ford say? Does t`e computer record the rpm shifts?</font><hr />4/blockquote><font size="2" face5"Verdana, Arial">Hey, I say if it's ABLE to do it, they have to warrantee it to do so...I dont cnow, maybe Im wonrg...

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