Chirping Second Gear??

[koabich]

Not sure what I was tring to say? I thought it was pretty obvious. The more you are able to spin the tires, the more power you have going to the wheels. This does not mean a smokey burnout from a stand still either. But under controlled circumstances such as a first to second gear shift, where you can make sure that you shift at exaclty the same RPM, using the same tires, keeping the same pressure on the gas, how much the tires spin when you make that shift will dictate how much power is getting to the wheels. For example, you can get your stock SVT focus to chirp the tires, when you shift at 6,000 RPM without ever letting off the gas. When you try a second to third gear shift, the car doesn't even come close to chirping the tires. Now you have Tom install a Turbo on the car (for example) and now when you make the first to second gear shift at 6,000 without ever letting off the gas (shifting the same as you did when the car was stock) you cannot get the tires to hook up they spin so freely. And now when you shift from second to third gear at 6,000 RPM and never letting off the gas you can break the tires loose again in third gear.
I would say that the second car, with the Turbo, has more power and/or torque.
Now I know that compaing a stock SVT to one that has a Turbo is a far streach but I used the example to make a point.

Another more realistic example. You have 2 SVT Focus'. You have no idea if any modifications have been done to either car. Which car would you assume would have more torque (all other things being equal) the car that can just chrip the tires in a first to second gear shift or the car that can spin then for several seconds in the first to second shift...again, all things being equal.
Once again, the car that can spin the tires more would have more power...all other things being equal!

[Mike-SVT]

it's more in the technique than anything and you sure as heck don't have to redline it to chirp second gear. Combination of motor mounts and short throw shifter really makes it kinda easy to do.

[firstonraceday]

most definitely an easy task to do but not one i recommend i dont do it on purpose

[SVTonN2OinKS]

If you are bent on chirping 2nd, add nitrous or FI. I could light the tires up in 2nd with a 35-50 shot if that is what I wanted to do. I really don't want to break things so I don't practice that though. You shouldn't want to either unless you are confident you will get your clutch replaced by Ford under the S/B.

[cjg]

What do you guys do at the track? I launch at about 4000rpms and then by the time I let all the way off the clutch im at the red. By that time my foot is to the floor, I never let off. Then tap the clutch to the floor and pull the shifter in to second never letting off the gas, and the same into 3rd. 3rd is all I get to on the 1/8 mile track. The only problem I had with it was stock mounts would let the motor move enough for the intake to slap the firewall. Lots of fun!

[hommie]

Not sure what I was tring to say? I thought it was pretty obvious. The more you are able to spin the tires, the more power you have going to the wheels. This does not mean a smokey burnout from a stand still either. But under controlled circumstances such as a first to second gear shift, where you can make sure that you shift at exaclty the same RPM, using the same tires, keeping the same pressure on the gas, how much the tires spin when you make that shift will dictate how much power is getting to the wheels. For example, you can get your stock SVT focus to chirp the tires, when you shift at 6,000 RPM without ever letting off the gas. When you try a second to third gear shift, the car doesn't even come close to chirping the tires. Now you have Tom install a Turbo on the car (for example) and now when you make the first to second gear shift at 6,000 without ever letting off the gas (shifting the same as you did when the car was stock) you cannot get the tires to hook up they spin so freely. And now when you shift from second to third gear at 6,000 RPM and never letting off the gas you can break the tires loose again in third gear.
I would say that the second car, with the Turbo, has more power and/or torque.
Now I know that compaing a stock SVT to one that has a Turbo is a far streach but I used the example to make a point.

Another more realistic example. You have 2 SVT Focus'. You have no idea if any modifications have been done to either car. Which car would you assume would have more torque (all other things being equal) the car that can just chrip the tires in a first to second gear shift or the car that can spin then for several seconds in the first to second shift...again, all things being equal.
Once again, the car that can spin the tires more would have more power...all other things being equal!

Of course this still doesn't really prove anything. If you were a good driver you could chirp or spin the tires on almost any car. I used to have a 86 dodge colt that had like 80hp and I could leave a patch with that thing. Of course it was only one wheel. So I say it really comes down to the driver and not the car. Of course either way there is really no point for it.

[sofreshsoclean]

If I shift at a lower RPM (4.5k) and lay into the gas that induces crazy wheel spin in second, Higher RPM= less torque and only nets me a little "chirp" and requires no throttle modulation but is super bad for the Clutch/drive line. and I dont get down the track any faster. short shifting and throttle modding always get me faster times.
Try more horse power. I have limited slip and Chirp it in third.
BTW... this is a silly thread.

[bmylez]

Damn, I'm losing track of how many threads are being brought back from the dead. 4 1/2 year old zombie...

[svtf02red]

I was going to say something, but I don't want to piss off a fellow norcalian

[SVTBuckeye]

H#$%LL
just put a whole Sh%%^ load of air in the tires so they don't have much traction. Say 45psi Then "chirp" till the crows come home...or something like that.

you could go down to 15psi and get a similar result maybe.

go to a 5 inch rim and 185 tires, real narrow. then burn those babies off. woooheeee.

[sofreshsoclean]

Say it... it's I'm to old to get pissy anyways.