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Join Date: Jul 2003
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I can't seem to manage chirping second for the life of me, i've tried shifting at redline, letting the clutch out fast as hell, but still nothing.(I even used my T/C kill switch) Sometimes if i shift at around 4k I can feel the tires slightly spinning but no loud chirp like some of my friends cars. I know it can be done, whats the best technique?
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When a man leaves himself WIDE open, I take advantage of it
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Hopewell, PA (But, San Diego at heart)
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if it doesnt do it thats a good thing, that means that you have traction. I wouldnt drive around town all night trying to chirp your tires, thats SUPER hard on you whole drive line. Syncronizers, clutch, differential, CV joints, everything. I know it sounds cool, but take it as a good thing that it doesnt. Tire spin is time not spent going forward.
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Join Date: May 2005
Location: Poulsbo
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Besides the evident damage that is caused by attempting to 'chirp' into second gear....basically the conti sports that come on the svt stock dont really chirp all that much too soft, or atleast mine dont..get some cheap ass tires if you want to make noise
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The stock tires chirp, believe me...
Hell, my MX's chirp, and I think I even got my V700's to chirp before. It's not a "cool" thing, it just means your not using 100% of your traction. Nothing to brag about....unless you have gobs of torque and want to burn away an old set of tires ala my mustang glory years....sigh....
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Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: CT
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i have no problem spinning tire thru second if i shift hard or gas it too much during autoX, but i dont view it as a good thing. |
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Minnesota
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The SVTF will have trouble barking second because of the dual mass fly wheel that it uses.
This flywheel is basically a two piece unit that is spring loaded and is designed to absorb driveline shock to provide smoother shifting and take some of the shock normally transmitted through the transmission. I had an'03 ZX3 2.3 MTX and that thing would bark second very easily, it was also had a cable clutch instead of the hydraulic unit used on the 2.0 cars, I never got used to the feel of that cable. It was awful. My 2000 ZX3 will also chirp second but not as easily as the 2.3. |
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Trying to chirp the tires to much can cause that to happen. Not really sure why you would want to do this However keep trying I guess.
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Wow that is some good driving. Yeah I agree there is no need to chirp the tires. I didn't one time because I grapped second really hard and it felt the car was going to come apart.
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When I had my 03 with TC I would spin the tires in wet conditions just to watch the light come on and off. I know it is strange, but for some reason it was cool for me
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Join Date: May 2005
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Its simple, power shift, you never let off the gas in-between gears. I have to say though that stock mounts let the motor move too much. With consideration of the intake being so close to the firewall, I wouldnt be surprised if the intake hits the firewall in stock form.
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Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Kansas
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I can make the TC flash on the 1-2 shift on dry pavement chirping the tires, but it did not do this before the tune and SR. It's cool to hear the chirp, but like has already been said if you do more then a slight chirp your actually going to be slower.
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Join Date: May 2005
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When my SVT Focus was stock, I could spin the tires in second without trying too hard...wasn't even necessary to speed shift. Even when I changed to tires that gripped much better than stock (Goodyear Eagle F1 D3) I was able too do so without speed or power shifting. Everyone here is right in saying that it is not good for the car but we will do it and as long as it is not abused you really will not notice any damage to the car (unless you mess up badly and miss a shift or something like that).
But on another note, keep in mind that this is an excellent way to see if all those mods you are doing to the car are worth anything. The more the tires spin with a first to second shift, the more power or torque you are getting from those mods. I remember about 10 years back in reading a Mustang Mag, they showed you how to calculate how much torqure was gained, as the car was modified, just by measuing the amount of rubber the car was able to lay down in the first to second shift. |
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