CFM Dyno Test: SVT Stock Cat vs. Offroad Pipe vs. High Flow Cat - The Ford Focus Forum

**CFM Focus** · 05-13-2006, 10:17 PM

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**CFM Focus** · 05-13-2006, 11:23 PM

**SVT04EAP** · 05-14-2006, 01:07 AM

Now correct me if im wrong... but it looks to me like the high flow cat is actually putting out more power than the ORP?

**ArmyFocus** · 05-14-2006, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by SVT04EAP

Now correct me if im wrong... but it looks to me like the high flow cat is actually putting out more power than the ORP?

According to their dyno sheet it is, unless they mis-labeled the colors, but I don't think they did.

**02_SVT_Focus** · 05-14-2006, 09:48 AM

It had less power then ORP at lower rpms. It gained the advantage at top end power

**ArmyFocus** · 05-14-2006, 09:51 AM

^^True. The ORP gives you more daily driving power whereas the cat gives you more 1/4 mile power. It's all subjective based on what you are trying to accomplish. Either an ORP or the cat would be a good choice I guess.

**dano** · 05-14-2006, 10:04 AM

Were there any other mods to the test car? What is the construction, looks to be Stainless steel? Sorry for the Q's, looks to be a nice peice, and those are some nice numbers.

**CFM Focus** · 05-14-2006, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by SVT04EAP

Now correct me if im wrong... but it looks to me like the high flow cat is actually putting out more power than the ORP?

It does in a few small places but overall the ORP offers higher gains.

**CFM Focus** · 05-14-2006, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by dano

Were there any other mods to the test car? What is the construction, looks to be Stainless steel? Sorry for the Q's, looks to be a nice peice, and those are some nice numbers.

The car has our prototype induction system. It is stainless.

**Dr_Adam** · 05-14-2006, 09:25 PM

Do you think you could post up some video or an audio file so we could hear what it sounds like?

**SVTADAM** · 05-14-2006, 09:58 PM

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The ORP gives you more daily driving power whereas the cat gives you more 1/4 mile power. It's all subjective based on what you are trying to accomplish.

I that you have that backward...unless you always shift at redline. The lower RPM TQ would make for better daily driving. You will have to rev less to get the quicker acceleration. Overall, both are geat upgrades though.
If you install an exhaust cam gear, and dyno tune the car; you can dial in that TQ lost in the low rpm, however you will sacrifice a bit of high end HP.

**blucarz** · 05-14-2006, 11:25 PM

Looks good - now just ship me mine!!!

**ArmyFocus** · 05-15-2006, 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by SVTADAM

I that you have that backward...unless you always shift at redline. The lower RPM TQ would make for better daily driving. You will have to rev less to get the quicker acceleration. Overall, both are geat upgrades though.
If you install an exhaust cam gear, and dyno tune the car; you can dial in that TQ lost in the low rpm, however you will sacrifice a bit of high end HP.

Got it.

**ott** · 05-15-2006, 05:19 AM

I don't think it's worth it for 1 hp and 1 ft/lb of torque. It goes to show you that the stock SVT header is already pretty damn good. You really can't make it much better.

**Yel900rr** · 05-15-2006, 07:36 AM

Did you compare it to thr RT cat?

**02_SVT_Focus** · 05-15-2006, 08:12 AM

I don't think its not worth it. That dyno shows almost 6 pounds of torque and almost 11 hp difference between 3-4 k rpm. For around 3 bills, that not a bad gain. I think thats worth it, not to mention the bad ass note you'll get out the tail pipes.

Now the big question, will I pass a NJ state inspection? I am due for reinspection this month....i think you should send me one to test if its NJ Carb legal!!!!!

**BrokenSVT** · 05-15-2006, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by ott

I don't think it's worth it for 1 hp and 1 ft/lb of torque. It goes to show you that the stock SVT header is already pretty damn good. You really can't make it much better.

WTF are you talking about??? No one tested a header here...

Greg

**02_SVT_Focus** · 05-15-2006, 08:15 AM

Yea...I didnt want to bring that up too lol

**DeltaT** · 05-15-2006, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by ott

I don't think it's worth it for 1 hp and 1 ft/lb of torque. It goes to show you that the stock SVT header is already pretty damn good. You really can't make it much better.

Why do some people ONLY look at peak numbers? You sir, are an idiot. The gains between 3k and 5k are HUGE.

**Ray** · 05-15-2006, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Yel900rr

Did you compare it to thr RT cat?

very interested in this as well.

**Fordson** · 05-15-2006, 11:12 AM

Looks like in addition to the intake, that SVT had somebody or other's tune on it, judging from the overall profile and bump at 5K (as opposed to the hole at that speed with a regular SVT factory tune) - true? Can you confirm?

Looks like a very useful boost in torque from 2.5k up to 5.5k. That's exactly where it's needed. Especially good where I spend most of my daily-driving time - between 2.5k and 4.5k.

**02_SVT_Focus** · 05-15-2006, 11:24 AM

i forgot they mentioned a protoype induction system as well. CAI, SRI. Header?? That would also help those big numbers between 2.5k and 4k. Whats the prototype of, and have you dynoed it agains stock parts?

**Ataru** · 05-15-2006, 11:43 AM

Damn.....I want one now!

That's the first performance mod I've seen that I actually WANT that's fairly affordable!

Great job CFM!

**Yel900rr** · 05-15-2006, 11:45 AM

RunFile_001 = CFM high flow cat pipe
RunFile_005 = RT high flow cat pipe

This is posted on another site. The RT cat made more torque than the ORP

**ChrisHightower** · 05-15-2006, 12:11 PM

This is probably because of the scavenging effect of the chamber right before the cat element. I bet there is more gains with a gutted cat than with an ORP.

05-13-2006, 10:17 PM	#1 (permalink)
CFM Focus Premier Sponsor Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: www.c-f-m.com Posts: 1,579	CFM Dyno Test: SVT Stock Cat vs. Offroad Pipe vs. High Flow Cat CONCLUSION: If you have the extra cash to spend then get our high flow cat pipe, give up very little power, produce cleaner emissions and make a lot less noise! We have about 3 more high flow cat pipes available for our first batch. Our next batch will not be ready for another 6-8 weeks. Order link: http://focus.c-f-m.com/index.asp?Pag...25&dc=focaljet BTW, the current introductory price will go up June 1, 2006. Place your order today! Orders can be cancelled if product has not been shipped so place your order and lock in the lower price. __________________ Central Florida Motorsports, Inc. - Est 1996 sales@c-f-m.com / Live Chat / 407.339.9211 / Subscribe to CFM Forum Last edited by CFM Focus; 05-13-2006 at 10:27 PM.

05-13-2006, 11:23 PM	#2 (permalink)
CFM Focus Premier Sponsor Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: www.c-f-m.com Posts: 1,579	Re: CFM Dyno Test: SVT Stock Cat vs. Offroad Pipe vs. High Flow Cat __________________ Central Florida Motorsports, Inc. - Est 1996 sales@c-f-m.com / Live Chat / 407.339.9211 / Subscribe to CFM Forum

05-14-2006, 09:48 AM	#5 (permalink)
02_SVT_Focus Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Chalfont, PA Posts: 1,572	Re: CFM Dyno Test: SVT Stock Cat vs. Offroad Pipe vs. High Flow Cat It had less power then ORP at lower rpms. It gained the advantage at top end power __________________ '02 Sonic Blue SVT. #246 CarDomain Profile Performance: JRSC BBK - FC 65mm TB - Focussport Coolflow - Random Tech ORP - Borla Catback" First Drag Night: 60ft (2.389) 1/4mi. (14.400) MPH (99.78) First Place 2007 Season Points SJR-SCCA Solo #20 SM Visit me on Myspace

05-14-2006, 09:51 AM	#6 (permalink)
ArmyFocus Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: your mom's house Posts: 2,711	Re: CFM Dyno Test: SVT Stock Cat vs. Offroad Pipe vs. High Flow Cat ^^True. The ORP gives you more daily driving power whereas the cat gives you more 1/4 mile power. It's all subjective based on what you are trying to accomplish. Either an ORP or the cat would be a good choice I guess. __________________ 2006 Dodge Ram SLT 4x4 Quad cab. Custom exhaust, Alpine and JL Audio sound system Old: 2002 ProCharged SVTF 2000 Dodge Dakota

05-14-2006, 10:04 AM	#7 (permalink)
dano TEAM Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Portland Oregon Posts: 248	Re: CFM Dyno Test: SVT Stock Cat vs. Offroad Pipe vs. High Flow Cat Were there any other mods to the test car? What is the construction, looks to be Stainless steel? Sorry for the Q's, looks to be a nice peice, and those are some nice numbers. __________________ 2007 Copper Metallic Escape XLS 2.3 5 speed 4x4 2003 EAP Comp Orange SVT Focus SOLD 2002 WRX WRB Wagon 4eat stage 2.... 1979 f-150 SWB 4x4 aka "Project Jerk Truck" DONE! 1969 Vitamine C Orange Dart GTS 340/4speed

05-14-2006, 09:25 PM	#10 (permalink)
Dr_Adam TEAM Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: columbus, OH Posts: 115	Re: CFM Dyno Test: SVT Stock Cat vs. Offroad Pipe vs. High Flow Cat Do you think you could post up some video or an audio file so we could hear what it sounds like? __________________ if i was a real doctor i would be driving a porsche

05-14-2006, 11:25 PM	#12 (permalink)
blucarz Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 1,245	Re: CFM Dyno Test: SVT Stock Cat vs. Offroad Pipe vs. High Flow Cat Looks good - now just ship me mine!!! __________________ 2003 Sonic Blue Focus SVT (#337) - sold 2006 MazdaSpeed6 (pearl white) 2008 Avalanche (black)

05-15-2006, 05:19 AM	#14 (permalink)
ott Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: SoCal Posts: 65	Re: CFM Dyno Test: SVT Stock Cat vs. Offroad Pipe vs. High Flow Cat I don't think it's worth it for 1 hp and 1 ft/lb of torque. It goes to show you that the stock SVT header is already pretty damn good. You really can't make it much better. __________________ 2004 Competition Orange SVT Focus

05-15-2006, 07:36 AM	#15 (permalink)
Yel900rr TEAM Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Central Pennsylvania Posts: 2,807	Re: CFM Dyno Test: SVT Stock Cat vs. Offroad Pipe vs. High Flow Cat Did you compare it to thr RT cat?

05-15-2006, 08:12 AM	#16 (permalink)
02_SVT_Focus Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Chalfont, PA Posts: 1,572	Re: CFM Dyno Test: SVT Stock Cat vs. Offroad Pipe vs. High Flow Cat I don't think its not worth it. That dyno shows almost 6 pounds of torque and almost 11 hp difference between 3-4 k rpm. For around 3 bills, that not a bad gain. I think thats worth it, not to mention the bad ass note you'll get out the tail pipes. Now the big question, will I pass a NJ state inspection? I am due for reinspection this month....i think you should send me one to test if its NJ Carb legal!!!!! __________________ '02 Sonic Blue SVT. #246 CarDomain Profile Performance: JRSC BBK - FC 65mm TB - Focussport Coolflow - Random Tech ORP - Borla Catback" First Drag Night: 60ft (2.389) 1/4mi. (14.400) MPH (99.78) First Place 2007 Season Points SJR-SCCA Solo #20 SM Visit me on Myspace

05-15-2006, 08:15 AM	#18 (permalink)
02_SVT_Focus Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Chalfont, PA Posts: 1,572	Re: CFM Dyno Test: SVT Stock Cat vs. Offroad Pipe vs. High Flow Cat Yea...I didnt want to bring that up too lol __________________ '02 Sonic Blue SVT. #246 CarDomain Profile Performance: JRSC BBK - FC 65mm TB - Focussport Coolflow - Random Tech ORP - Borla Catback" First Drag Night: 60ft (2.389) 1/4mi. (14.400) MPH (99.78) First Place 2007 Season Points SJR-SCCA Solo #20 SM Visit me on Myspace

05-15-2006, 11:12 AM	#21 (permalink)
Fordson TEAM Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Western New York Posts: 769	Re: CFM Dyno Test: SVT Stock Cat vs. Offroad Pipe vs. High Flow Cat Looks like in addition to the intake, that SVT had somebody or other's tune on it, judging from the overall profile and bump at 5K (as opposed to the hole at that speed with a regular SVT factory tune) - true? Can you confirm? Looks like a very useful boost in torque from 2.5k up to 5.5k. That's exactly where it's needed. Especially good where I spend most of my daily-driving time - between 2.5k and 4.5k. __________________ 2003 SVT InfraRed 5-door, loaded New - 8/22/03, YRF0 - 10/9/03 Diablo Predator tune - 8/22/04 FS Cool-Flo, Focus Central TB, CFM HFC, Ford Racing STS, Centerline Storms with Eagle F1 GS-D3s, OEM Size Build date 4/29/03, #894 of 2173

05-15-2006, 11:24 AM	#22 (permalink)
02_SVT_Focus Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Chalfont, PA Posts: 1,572	Re: CFM Dyno Test: SVT Stock Cat vs. Offroad Pipe vs. High Flow Cat i forgot they mentioned a protoype induction system as well. CAI, SRI. Header?? That would also help those big numbers between 2.5k and 4k. Whats the prototype of, and have you dynoed it agains stock parts? __________________ '02 Sonic Blue SVT. #246 CarDomain Profile Performance: JRSC BBK - FC 65mm TB - Focussport Coolflow - Random Tech ORP - Borla Catback" First Drag Night: 60ft (2.389) 1/4mi. (14.400) MPH (99.78) First Place 2007 Season Points SJR-SCCA Solo #20 SM Visit me on Myspace

05-15-2006, 11:43 AM	#23 (permalink)
Ataru Team Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Oklahom Posts: 13,519	Re: CFM Dyno Test: SVT Stock Cat vs. Offroad Pipe vs. High Flow Cat Damn.....I want one now! That's the first performance mod I've seen that I actually WANT that's fairly affordable! Great job CFM! __________________ Owner of SONIC the HEDGEHOG - 2003 Sonic Blue SVT Focus ZX5 [FJ] focaljet - GUIDELINES - GALLERY - [FJ]WALLPAPER - STORE - SPONSORS - SEARCH - Any Questions?

05-15-2006, 11:45 AM	#24 (permalink)
Yel900rr TEAM Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Central Pennsylvania Posts: 2,807	Re: CFM Dyno Test: SVT Stock Cat vs. Offroad Pipe vs. High Flow Cat RunFile_001 = CFM high flow cat pipe RunFile_005 = RT high flow cat pipe This is posted on another site. The RT cat made more torque than the ORP

05-15-2006, 12:11 PM	#25 (permalink)
ChrisHightower Rookie Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Dallas, TX, USA Posts: 41	Re: CFM Dyno Test: SVT Stock Cat vs. Offroad Pipe vs. High Flow Cat This is probably because of the scavenging effect of the chamber right before the cat element. I bet there is more gains with a gutted cat than with an ORP. __________________ Chris Hightower Viridian Motor Vehicles '03 Lincoln Aviator '06 VW Jetta TDi '09 MEV Rocket '78 VW Type2 Transporter (Bus) http://www.vmvcars.com/

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