Grinding on warm starts - Focaljet

**thefrush** · 09-11-2006, 02:31 PM

I've had this problem for quite some time now, every once in a while when the car is warm, I'll turn the ignition, the engine will crank once or twice and then let out this horrific grinding noise until I let off the ignition. If I try to turn the ignition again too quickly it will grind again. But if I wait a couple of seconds it will generally start right up. Yesterday at the track it was really bad. The car grinded three or four times in a row without starting up before it finally turned over.

Now, this has been going on intermittently for well, over a year. I remember it first last summer. Since then I've installed a supercharger, blown my engine, uninstalled supercharger and replaced the short block, and it still does it. So that leads me to believe it is the starter. But before I dump some money on a new starter I just wanted to get some more opinions.

**richiejerzee4lfe** · 09-11-2006, 04:35 PM

starter? that's my guess.

**FORDSVTPARTS** · 09-11-2006, 05:21 PM

Starter or a damaged flywheel.

**thefrush** · 09-11-2006, 06:10 PM

The flywheel has been changed to a Fidanza and it still happens. Could it be damaging my flywheel? How much is a new starter?

**elderfeces** · 09-11-2006, 06:14 PM

My guess would be the starter. Check with Steve at Tousely Ford for a price on a starter - I'm sure he can get you a decent price.

**COSVT03** · 09-11-2006, 09:21 PM

How much is a starter?? I need one too.

**SVTBishop** · 09-12-2006, 12:03 AM

not sure on cost of starter but you might wanna make sure your started is shimed properly as well, good way to test solinoid as well is take it out and tap some power to the lead of the solinoid see if the gear pops out

**jrssvt** · 09-13-2006, 10:47 PM

mine does the same. it has been been going on for about a year or so to.

**DJ Sures** · 09-14-2006, 12:34 PM

i hvae a fidenza flywheel too and i was thinking maybe it's the teeth . so when i took the motor out last time i noticed it was fine . so it's the starter .

it's the clutch on the starter . it's not a difficult thing to replace if u can get under the car

**LamarWH** · 09-14-2006, 01:40 PM

I'm thinkin we make a list...better yet a parts pool (coughNor*Calcough) of spare parts. Like if you happen to come across a cheap starter, buy 2 and we list it in the pool. If someone needs it they can buy it from ya whenever they have the cash. Spare tire.....spare alternator.....spare starter, sounds good to me. I bet Steve would love all the business.

**cjmartinyzx3** · 09-14-2006, 02:13 PM

ill tell you for sure right now that it is the starter... mine did the same damn thing and just replaced the starter and havent had the problem at all.

**thefrush** · 09-14-2006, 06:24 PM

Sounds like a new starter is in my future.

**Reza** · 09-14-2006, 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thefrush

Sounds like a new starter is in my future.

when you took the engine out did you check out the Flywheel?

**thefrush** · 09-14-2006, 06:57 PM

It's been grinding since before I installed the Fidanza.

**Reza** · 09-14-2006, 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thefrush

It's been grinding since before I installed the Fidanza.

Oh ok cool

**jrssvt** · 09-15-2006, 02:39 AM

just replaced my starter today and nothing yet.

**thefrush** · 09-15-2006, 02:54 AM

Thanks for the update. Did you get an OEM replacement or a performance starter?

09-11-2006, 02:31 PM	#1
thefrush I <3 dyno queens Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 9,572	Grinding on warm starts I've had this problem for quite some time now, every once in a while when the car is warm, I'll turn the ignition, the engine will crank once or twice and then let out this horrific grinding noise until I let off the ignition. If I try to turn the ignition again too quickly it will grind again. But if I wait a couple of seconds it will generally start right up. Yesterday at the track it was really bad. The car grinded three or four times in a row without starting up before it finally turned over. Now, this has been going on intermittently for well, over a year. I remember it first last summer. Since then I've installed a supercharger, blown my engine, uninstalled supercharger and replaced the short block, and it still does it. So that leads me to believe it is the starter. But before I dump some money on a new starter I just wanted to get some more opinions. __________________ Vacuum Vulture Racing: We put the "shaft" in crankshaft. Fear usually limits us in seeing things clearly. Fear usually just gets in the way of us being happy.

09-11-2006, 04:35 PM	#2
richiejerzee4lfe TEAM Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: ogden, ut Posts: 341	Re: Grinding on warm starts starter? that's my guess. __________________ No more SVT. 05 SRT-4

09-11-2006, 05:21 PM	#3
FORDSVTPARTS TEAM Sponsor Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Minnesota Posts: 5,340	Re: Grinding on warm starts Starter or a damaged flywheel. __________________ We are Tousley Ford offering all OEM Ford and Ford Racing parts at 10% over cost. PM me here or call Steve at 1-800-328-9552 during regular business hours. Now accepting online orders here http://www.tousleyfordparts.com You can also find us here http://forums.focaljet.com/tousley-ford/ 2002 Silver SVT focus , custom CAI , Stage 2 throttle body, VF rear mount, FRPP 9mm wires, EAP/MACH HID's, Borla exhaust, K-W springs, FRPP UDP, Brisk LGS plugs, Screamin Demon coil, Diablo predator tune via Mike at Unique tuning. 153.27whp-140.56 lb.ft.

09-11-2006, 06:10 PM	#4
thefrush I <3 dyno queens Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 9,572	Re: Grinding on warm starts The flywheel has been changed to a Fidanza and it still happens. Could it be damaging my flywheel? How much is a new starter? __________________ Vacuum Vulture Racing: We put the "shaft" in crankshaft. Fear usually limits us in seeing things clearly. Fear usually just gets in the way of us being happy.

09-11-2006, 06:14 PM	#5
elderfeces [FJ] Specialist Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 5,639	Re: Grinding on warm starts My guess would be the starter. Check with Steve at Tousely Ford for a price on a starter - I'm sure he can get you a decent price.

09-11-2006, 09:21 PM	#6
COSVT03 TEAM Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 845	Re: Grinding on warm starts How much is a starter?? I need one too. __________________ #3052 of 3985

09-12-2006, 12:03 AM	#7
SVTBishop Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: E. Syracuse Posts: 1,511	Re: Grinding on warm starts not sure on cost of starter but you might wanna make sure your started is shimed properly as well, good way to test solinoid as well is take it out and tap some power to the lead of the solinoid see if the gear pops out __________________ Some people are like slinkies, not really good for anything but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs 04 Comp Orange SVTF

09-13-2006, 10:47 PM	#8
jrssvt TEAM Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Highland,ca Posts: 365	Re: Grinding on warm starts mine does the same. it has been been going on for about a year or so to. __________________ "One Day we'll wake up and not have to worry about tomarrow" If Speed Kills Do Brakes Give life--( brembo Brakes)--

09-14-2006, 12:34 PM	#9
DJ Sures Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Posts: 1,488	Re: Grinding on warm starts i hvae a fidenza flywheel too and i was thinking maybe it's the teeth . so when i took the motor out last time i noticed it was fine . so it's the starter . it's the clutch on the starter . it's not a difficult thing to replace if u can get under the car

09-14-2006, 01:40 PM	#10
LamarWH Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 1,580	Re: Grinding on warm starts I'm thinkin we make a list...better yet a parts pool (coughNor*Calcough) of spare parts. Like if you happen to come across a cheap starter, buy 2 and we list it in the pool. If someone needs it they can buy it from ya whenever they have the cash. Spare tire.....spare alternator.....spare starter, sounds good to me. I bet Steve would love all the business.

09-14-2006, 02:13 PM	#11
cjmartinyzx3 Senior TEAM Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Marysville, MI Posts: 3,119	Re: Grinding on warm starts ill tell you for sure right now that it is the starter... mine did the same damn thing and just replaced the starter and havent had the problem at all.

09-14-2006, 06:24 PM	#12
thefrush I <3 dyno queens Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 9,572	Re: Grinding on warm starts Sounds like a new starter is in my future. __________________ Vacuum Vulture Racing: We put the "shaft" in crankshaft. Fear usually limits us in seeing things clearly. Fear usually just gets in the way of us being happy.

09-14-2006, 06:57 PM	#14
thefrush I <3 dyno queens Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 9,572	Re: Grinding on warm starts It's been grinding since before I installed the Fidanza. __________________ Vacuum Vulture Racing: We put the "shaft" in crankshaft. Fear usually limits us in seeing things clearly. Fear usually just gets in the way of us being happy.

09-15-2006, 02:39 AM	#16
jrssvt TEAM Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Highland,ca Posts: 365	Re: Grinding on warm starts just replaced my starter today and nothing yet. __________________ "One Day we'll wake up and not have to worry about tomarrow" If Speed Kills Do Brakes Give life--( brembo Brakes)--

09-15-2006, 02:54 AM	#17
thefrush I <3 dyno queens Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 9,572	Re: Grinding on warm starts Thanks for the update. Did you get an OEM replacement or a performance starter? __________________ Vacuum Vulture Racing: We put the "shaft" in crankshaft. Fear usually limits us in seeing things clearly. Fear usually just gets in the way of us being happy.

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