TDCi in the USA

[focalBlur]

I was reading the Aug Motor Trend today and they had a little write up on a focus TDCi it was a DOT spec ZX5 with the TDCi that Ford had for testing here it the USA

the write up said that Ford is working on making the TDCi work on the high sulfur Diesel(everything else is ready for the US market, including emissions) that we have here in the USA and plans to sell it in 2004

0-60 was 9.9sec(9.4 for a 5speed ZX5 ZeTec)
38mpg overall while they had the car
they also said the car produced no smoke at all while they had it


woohoo I can't wait
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[focusdchaos]

Sweet!

[V]

Mileage sounds a little low compared to VW.

[Ozmotear]

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[biker16]

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by V:
Mileage sounds a little low compared to VW.<hr></blockquote>

that would be overall including testing and the like.

a US TDCi Focus in 2004 wow. [img]graemlins/thumbup.gif[/img]

Hey Ron, I hope you are reading this.

[biker16]

After a little research.

The US Jetta TDI makes 90hp and 155ft/lbs.
100, 130 and 150HP in europe.

The Focus TDCi makes 115hp and 184ft/lbs in euro form. The TDCi in europe gets 53.4mpg Hwy.

the number for the US spec may be lower.

[focalBlur]

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by biker16:


that would be overall including testing and the like.

a US TDCi Focus in 2004 wow. [img]graemlins/thumbup.gif[/img]

Hey Ron, I hope you are reading this.<hr></blockquote>


yes it was implied that the 38mpg figure included track testing but that highway mpg should be in the 50-60mpg range

[elmo]

Wow, a turbo! I can't wait to trade in my SVTF. [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img]

[SilverSVT]

Maybe its the crappy Diesel we have here causing the lower MPG ratings?

[Dev]

We know about this car and I know that Ron is looking into this and coaxing Ford all he can. [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img] I think that we even know where it is. Naahhhhh We don't know anything. Do we guys [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img]

[V]

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by zx3ford:
We know about this car and I know that Ron is looking into this and coaxing Ford all he can. [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img] I think that we even know where it is. Naahhhhh We don't know anything. Do we guys [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img] <hr></blockquote>

Let me guess another coming soon we will see in 6-12 months.

[focaljet-1]

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by V:


Let me guess another coming soon we will see in 6-12 months.<hr></blockquote>

http://www.focaljet.com/contributors.html

[jacek]

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by V:
Mileage sounds a little low compared to VW.<hr></blockquote>

Yes, but as far as I know the VW's 0-60 time is about 13 secs.

[V]

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by wrcfan:


http://www.focaljet.com/contributors.html<hr></blockquote>


Just messing around with ya [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img] The contributions sounds cool...makes me think back to when strongtower had an article

[biker16]

Eveytime I hear MPG I think mondeo 2.0 39.4mpg Hwy The Focus will have the Duratec 2.0 next Fall. 143hp 0-60 in 8.1 Secs. [img]graemlins/thumbup.gif[/img]

The TDCi plus a 2.0 and 2.3 Duratec HE. [img]graemlins/thumbup.gif[/img]

with 115, 143, and 155(est)hp each a very potent combo indeed. [img]graemlins/thumbup.gif[/img]

topped off with the 2004 SVT with &gt;170hp. [img]graemlins/thumbup.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/thumbup.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/party.gif[/img]

[JPN0731]

FYI: Keep in mind that some of these sites that MPG figures that seem very high are BRITISH sites. The "imperial gallon" is more than ours and so MPG figures for most European cars in British magazines are artificially inflated... I don't know the exact conversion rate though, sorry.

[mossss]

i've a fofo TDci [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img]

[biker16]

update. the Focus C-Max

has an all new 1.6 and 2.0 TDCi.
1.6
108 bhp at 4,000 rpm and 176 lb-ft at only 1,750 rpm

2.0
133 bhp at 4,000 rpm and 235 lb-ft at 2,000 rpm

the Ford diesels make more power than the thier gas equivlents. [img]graemlins/thumbdown.gif[/img]

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[Jon Sturgeon]

Originally posted by JPN0731:
FYI: Keep in mind that some of these sites that MPG figures that seem very high are BRITISH sites. The "imperial gallon" is more than ours and so MPG figures for most European cars in British magazines are artificially inflated... I don't know the exact conversion rate though, sorry.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">1 UK gallon = approx 4.55 liters
1 US gallon = approx 3.79 liters

Therefore:

1 UK gallon = approx 1.20 US gallons
1 US gallon = approx 0.83 UK gallons

To convert UK to US, multiply by 4 then divide by 5, eg 40 mpg UK = 40 x 4 / 5 = 32 mpg US. To convert US to UK, multiply by 5 then divide by 4, eg 32 mpg US = 32 * 5 / 4 = 40 mpg UK.

And you thought arithmetic was a waste of time ;-)

Jon
http://focus.noegruts.com/

[Jon Sturgeon]

In the UK, at least, the Focus is available with two versions of the TDCi engine, both 1.8 liter, but with different outputs:

100hp @ 3800rpm, 177ft-lb @ 1750 rpm, 40/66mpg UK, 32/53mpg US
113hp @ 3850rpm, 184ft-lb @ 1850 rpm, 39/63mpg UK, 31/50mpg US

UK Ford Focus engine data

UK Ford Focus fuel economy and performance data

Jon
http://focus.noegruts.com/

[flat 4]

I have read many euro mags, talked to my family that lives in Portugal, and know of a couple of people that own Ford Duratorq Diesels. Bottom line is that Ford has the best oil burner made right now.
With the new diesel fuel standards coming out in 2006 Ford sounds like they are really getting ready for them. Rumor is also to expect a V-6 diesel for the F-150/Expedition's. Hell what a great set up that would be. A direct injected V-6 with good hp and huge torque plus returning 24-28 mpg. Sure would be a better buy for the average guy then the 5.4 L. gas that returns ~12 mpg in my brothers Ex.
Tim

[SupaCueBal]

yeah if they make it like the euro there should be a bunch of deisel performance options....All I can say is play with the computer some and it should be easy to get more power.

[V]

ahh another blast from the past...we never did get an article [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img]

[blueovalbaboon]

there a 2.3 liter TDCi? cuz that could manage to kick some serious butt against gasoline engines, if the 2.0 makes as much hp as a zetec and twice the torque [img]graemlins/evilgrin.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/evilgrin.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/evilgrin.gif[/img]

[jinstall]

Has anyone heard of the TDDI motor and if it is coming to the US? TDCi chip tuning is common and gets really good results. Chip tuning for a TDI in Germany gets really good gains in the HP and TQ areas. SOmetimes as much as 30 hp and 40 in TQ.