So my car was wrecked before purchase.... - Focaljet

**67GoatPimp** · 02-02-2006, 12:31 PM

I got my 04 Focus 2.3l with 7081 miles on it on 12/15/05. We noticed some really weird stuff about the car and I suspected it had been wrecked, so I had Carmax, where I bought the car look at all of the really poor fitment. I get a call back 20min ago and they say it's been wrecked and they want to buy the car back. Naturally, they have no 04 or older 2.3l at all for sale on their site, but, they do have a competition orange svt that i'm going to try to get. It's a 3200 price difference, but seeing as the only reason I bought the car to begin with is because it was EXACTLY what I wanted, down to color, options, everything. That this was the only car I was interested in. They also offered to swap the full suspension setup I put on the car on my new car free of charge. So, we'll see what happens.

**xerofall** · 02-02-2006, 12:33 PM

I wouldn't trust them at all after that.

**67GoatPimp** · 02-02-2006, 12:39 PM

They have a good reputation, and the title and carfax are clean. And it's my only real option, I need a car.

**secondechomatt** · 02-02-2006, 12:43 PM

shoot, I'd go for it, play up the wrecked buy back, and get that SVT!

**bigdaddyzx3** · 02-02-2006, 12:45 PM

I would work on the price a bit. They need to make some concession other than the suspension swap.
Don't be greedy, just a few hundred bucks.

**67GoatPimp** · 02-02-2006, 01:03 PM

I'm getting every dime out of them that I can. This is bull****, I got a GREAT deal on that car if it hadn't been wrecked. And i'm not sure I can get financed for that other 3k

**Reedicus26** · 02-02-2006, 01:05 PM

they definately owe you a discount. Carmax is a respectable company and should have looked at the first focus more closely, so their mistake cost you time and a little emotional attachment.

They should be trying to make a bad buying experience into a good one, so $1000+ isn't to much to ask. I am not sure how bad the car was wrecked, enough for a salvage title? But what if you didn't notice the car was in an accident and you later got into an accident where your car was not structurally sound enough to prevent injury, then they could be looking at a lawsuit and much more than $1000 to deal with the mess.

Ok, after writing this little rant, maybe you should ask for $2000...

**67GoatPimp** · 02-02-2006, 01:09 PM

I just asked them to "work with me on the price" because i "can't afford much more of a car payment" and i'm going to see what they do and go from there. If I can get them to meet me in the middle, i'd be happy.

**igor2** · 02-02-2006, 01:13 PM

^^^^ Very well worded request...Dealers usually come up with something.. just make sure they are not trying to hide some costs - like stretching your financing or something..

Igor

**sleeperlove** · 02-02-2006, 01:13 PM

just remember the cost of owning an svt is higher. if you are on a budget insurance premiums on the svt are quite a bit more and also you must run premium gas in it as well. don't get yourself in over your head

**67GoatPimp** · 02-02-2006, 01:14 PM

Lol, I told them that, that doesn't mean that's neccessarily the case, I mean, it would suck, but I could deal with it if it's not TOO much more. I am more concerned about if i could get financed.

**igor2** · 02-02-2006, 01:17 PM

Well looking at your situation.. I would just ask for my money back+ some exta for the trouble and buy a different Dura Focus...

I know it sucks, but the 2.3 Dura has great mileage (better than the SVT, sometims better than the 2.0 Dura) and runs regular and has cheaper insurnace.... are there any 2.3's available in your area from even a different dealer/ private party?

Igor

**Auto_Focus** · 02-02-2006, 01:19 PM

If you decide to go with the SVT, make sure it hasn't been in an accident.

**focuspl99** · 02-02-2006, 01:29 PM

i was a 2.3 duratec.... sooo friggen bad im going to sell my car listed below for one as i can get one for like less then half what i can sell my car for.... with the mods

**xerofall** · 02-02-2006, 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by igor2

Well looking at your situation.. I would just ask for my money back+ some exta for the trouble and buy a different Dura Focus...

I know it sucks, but the 2.3 Dura has great mileage (better than the SVT, sometims better than the 2.0 Dura) and runs regular and has cheaper insurnace.... are there any 2.3's available in your area from even a different dealer/ private party?

Igor

X2

**MC9ZX3** · 02-02-2006, 01:55 PM

Why not just get your 2.3l back and have them give you the difference back or repair the car to like new? I mean **** I'd ask for a couple grand, or like $500-1000 and for them to have it repaired at the local dealer to new condition. I'd take a 2.3l over an svt...

**biscuitninja** · 02-02-2006, 02:15 PM

fHummm Orange SVT, does Cossie make anything for it? He he he....
:Evil Laugh: er....

-bix

**MrPotatoes** · 02-02-2006, 02:30 PM

dude yes. ful suspension swp for free is a good deal but watch out. dealers...

**Jugomugo** · 02-02-2006, 03:06 PM

Keep in mind with the SVT you'll probably have to get a second set of rims and tires for the winter. Driving around the Nap on the stock Conti's is a bitch. Although, maybe not this winter so much.

**Hocky** · 02-02-2006, 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jugomugo

Keep in mind with the SVT you'll probably have to get a second set of rims and tires for the winter. Driving around the Nap on the stock Conti's is a bitch. Although, maybe not this winter so much.

They're better than the generic "performance" tires his car is currently on. They just put him in a loaner car and the svt is being shipped here... numbers yet to be worked out. They want $14.9k for an 03 with 28k miles... rofl

**67GoatPimp** · 02-02-2006, 05:07 PM

Who gives a **** about gas mileage? Honestly. I'm going to make the car faster, the mileage will go down. With the 2.3, I was waiting for either focus sport or Hiboost to come out with their turbo kit. I can afford the extra payments, I can afford the higher insurance, and the lower mileage with the more expensive gas. I'm just trying to get them to come down on the price. As for "extra wheels and tires" i was about to order the SVT EAP package wheels for my dura, now they will be the summer wheels for the SVT, and the stockers get winter/snow tire duty. $$$ isn't really a problem here. My credit does suck though, so that's going to be my only roadblock. I'm not too worried about this, I've always wanted one of these in this color, now I have a chance to get it. And no matter where I go to a DEALER, i'm going to get hosed. I'm ok with that, I know it's coming. Once my credit gets a little better, It'll be different. But as of now this is what I have to work with. And with any kind of frame damage, the car will never be perfect again and even if it ever fits "perfect" again, it'll be structurally unsound and I really want nothing to do with it.

**Dev** · 02-02-2006, 05:52 PM

Carmax is tough to deal with but you can take advantage of their vehicle transfer program. Make them look for a car that you like if they don't cut you a deal on the SVT.

GOOD LUCK MAN.. Keep us posted!

**67GoatPimp** · 02-02-2006, 06:05 PM

They are transferring the SVT from Memphis, no charge.

**2focusd** · 02-02-2006, 10:58 PM

I've also been in love with the Competition Orange SVTs ever since they first came out, and as much as I'd love to get my hands on a 2.3 hatch, I gotta agree that you need to get that SVT bro

-Brian

**BackNFocus** · 02-02-2006, 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by igor2

Well looking at your situation.. I would just ask for my money back+ some exta for the trouble and buy a different Dura Focus...

I know it sucks, but the 2.3 Dura has great mileage (better than the SVT, sometims better than the 2.0 Dura) and runs regular and has cheaper insurnace.... are there any 2.3's available in your area from even a different dealer/ private party?

Igor

SVT=much better than a 2.3 or 2.0 duratec for anything but engine mods. Comes with every thing already, why not get the svt. tell them to shove it and make it even.

02-02-2006, 12:31 PM	#1
67GoatPimp TEAM Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 413	So my car was wrecked before purchase.... I got my 04 Focus 2.3l with 7081 miles on it on 12/15/05. We noticed some really weird stuff about the car and I suspected it had been wrecked, so I had Carmax, where I bought the car look at all of the really poor fitment. I get a call back 20min ago and they say it's been wrecked and they want to buy the car back. Naturally, they have no 04 or older 2.3l at all for sale on their site, but, they do have a competition orange svt that i'm going to try to get. It's a 3200 price difference, but seeing as the only reason I bought the car to begin with is because it was EXACTLY what I wanted, down to color, options, everything. That this was the only car I was interested in. They also offered to swap the full suspension setup I put on the car on my new car free of charge. So, we'll see what happens.

02-02-2006, 12:33 PM	#2
xerofall [FJ] Addict Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Kingdom of Unpopular Opinion Posts: 18,386	Re: So my car was wrecked before purchase.... I wouldn't trust them at all after that.

02-02-2006, 12:39 PM	#3
67GoatPimp TEAM Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 413	Re: So my car was wrecked before purchase.... They have a good reputation, and the title and carfax are clean. And it's my only real option, I need a car.

02-02-2006, 12:43 PM	#4
secondechomatt Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: New Boston, MI. Posts: 4,178	Re: So my car was wrecked before purchase.... shoot, I'd go for it, play up the wrecked buy back, and get that SVT! __________________ a jetter with a case of the "usta's" "The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, "I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it." There's no right way to eat a Rhesus.

02-02-2006, 01:03 PM	#6
67GoatPimp TEAM Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 413	Re: So my car was wrecked before purchase.... I'm getting every dime out of them that I can. This is bull****, I got a GREAT deal on that car if it hadn't been wrecked. And i'm not sure I can get financed for that other 3k

02-02-2006, 01:05 PM	#7
Reedicus26 TEAM Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 677	Re: So my car was wrecked before purchase.... they definately owe you a discount. Carmax is a respectable company and should have looked at the first focus more closely, so their mistake cost you time and a little emotional attachment. They should be trying to make a bad buying experience into a good one, so $1000+ isn't to much to ask. I am not sure how bad the car was wrecked, enough for a salvage title? But what if you didn't notice the car was in an accident and you later got into an accident where your car was not structurally sound enough to prevent injury, then they could be looking at a lawsuit and much more than $1000 to deal with the mess. Ok, after writing this little rant, maybe you should ask for $2000...

02-02-2006, 01:09 PM	#8
67GoatPimp TEAM Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 413	Re: So my car was wrecked before purchase.... I just asked them to "work with me on the price" because i "can't afford much more of a car payment" and i'm going to see what they do and go from there. If I can get them to meet me in the middle, i'd be happy.

02-02-2006, 01:13 PM	#9
igor2 Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Philly, pa Posts: 2,482	Re: So my car was wrecked before purchase.... ^^^^ Very well worded request...Dealers usually come up with something.. just make sure they are not trying to hide some costs - like stretching your financing or something.. Igor __________________ Mazda3 owner ...

02-02-2006, 01:14 PM	#11
67GoatPimp TEAM Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 413	Re: So my car was wrecked before purchase.... Lol, I told them that, that doesn't mean that's neccessarily the case, I mean, it would suck, but I could deal with it if it's not TOO much more. I am more concerned about if i could get financed. Last edited by 67GoatPimp : 02-09-2006 at 12:57 PM.

02-02-2006, 01:17 PM	#12
igor2 Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Philly, pa Posts: 2,482	Re: So my car was wrecked before purchase.... Well looking at your situation.. I would just ask for my money back+ some exta for the trouble and buy a different Dura Focus... I know it sucks, but the 2.3 Dura has great mileage (better than the SVT, sometims better than the 2.0 Dura) and runs regular and has cheaper insurnace.... are there any 2.3's available in your area from even a different dealer/ private party? Igor __________________ Mazda3 owner ...

02-02-2006, 01:19 PM	#13
Auto_Focus TEAM Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Franklin Co., OHIO Posts: 647	Re: So my car was wrecked before purchase.... If you decide to go with the SVT, make sure it hasn't been in an accident. __________________ LeMond Buenos Aires Trek 820 Felt F3c Trek 1500 Giant

02-02-2006, 01:29 PM	#14
focuspl99 [FJ] Specialist Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Chicago Posts: 6,203	Re: So my car was wrecked before purchase.... i was a 2.3 duratec.... sooo friggen bad im going to sell my car listed below for one as i can get one for like less then half what i can sell my car for.... with the mods __________________ Paul

02-02-2006, 01:55 PM	#16
MC9ZX3 TEAM Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: OHIO Posts: 783	Re: So my car was wrecked before purchase.... Why not just get your 2.3l back and have them give you the difference back or repair the car to like new? I mean **** I'd ask for a couple grand, or like $500-1000 and for them to have it repaired at the local dealer to new condition. I'd take a 2.3l over an svt... __________________ 06 Mazda 3s - his 04 Matrix - hers

02-02-2006, 02:15 PM	#17
biscuitninja [FJ] Specialist Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 6,491	Re: So my car was wrecked before purchase.... fHummm Orange SVT, does Cossie make anything for it? He he he.... :Evil Laugh: er.... -bix __________________ 2008 Prediction: In the immortial words of Clubber Lang... "my prediction ... PAIN! " I would tell you stories but you are not old enough. They are NC-39. - CheaperSleeper

02-02-2006, 02:30 PM	#18
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02-02-2006, 03:06 PM	#19
Jugomugo BANNED Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Fort Wayne, Indiana Posts: 1,332	Re: So my car was wrecked before purchase.... Keep in mind with the SVT you'll probably have to get a second set of rims and tires for the winter. Driving around the Nap on the stock Conti's is a bitch. Although, maybe not this winter so much.

02-02-2006, 05:07 PM	#21
67GoatPimp TEAM Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 413	Re: So my car was wrecked before purchase.... Who gives a **** about gas mileage? Honestly. I'm going to make the car faster, the mileage will go down. With the 2.3, I was waiting for either focus sport or Hiboost to come out with their turbo kit. I can afford the extra payments, I can afford the higher insurance, and the lower mileage with the more expensive gas. I'm just trying to get them to come down on the price. As for "extra wheels and tires" i was about to order the SVT EAP package wheels for my dura, now they will be the summer wheels for the SVT, and the stockers get winter/snow tire duty. $$$ isn't really a problem here. My credit does suck though, so that's going to be my only roadblock. I'm not too worried about this, I've always wanted one of these in this color, now I have a chance to get it. And no matter where I go to a DEALER, i'm going to get hosed. I'm ok with that, I know it's coming. Once my credit gets a little better, It'll be different. But as of now this is what I have to work with. And with any kind of frame damage, the car will never be perfect again and even if it ever fits "perfect" again, it'll be structurally unsound and I really want nothing to do with it.

02-02-2006, 06:05 PM	#23
67GoatPimp TEAM Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 413	Re: So my car was wrecked before purchase.... They are transferring the SVT from Memphis, no charge.

02-02-2006, 10:58 PM	#24
2focusd [FJ] Addict Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Uniontown, PA Posts: 13,200	Re: So my car was wrecked before purchase.... I've also been in love with the Competition Orange SVTs ever since they first came out, and as much as I'd love to get my hands on a 2.3 hatch, I gotta agree that you need to get that SVT bro -Brian __________________ Godspeed, Colin McRae, may you live on forever as the reason countless people fell in love with the Ford Focus (myself included). 1968-2007 http://www.f2focus.com

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