Official 2008 Ford Focus Pics and Information! - Page 41 - Focaljet

**Ataru** · 01-24-2007, 04:55 PM

Maybe this thread should be closed now. 1000 replies....I think everything that can be said has already been said.....

**Thameth** · 01-24-2007, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Ataru

Maybe this thread should be closed now. 1000 replies....I think everything that can be said has already been said.....

Thats already been discussed and the thread is staying open. This is a "discussion" forum BTW.....

**SilverSVT** · 01-24-2007, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Ataru

Maybe this thread should be closed now. 1000 replies....I think everything that can be said has already been said.....

Several times over

**zurno** · 01-24-2007, 06:55 PM

How long can you beat a dead horse before it begins to smell funny?

**EggYolkBill** · 01-24-2007, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by zurno

How long can you beat a dead horse before it begins to smell funny?

It all depends on how long you wait in between beatings!

**CrUziN4L** · 01-24-2007, 08:37 PM

anyone else see how the negativity and all seemed to drift away once the "euro announcments" were made

i love teh jet

**gobstopper** · 01-24-2007, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by CrUziN4L

anyone else see how the negativity and all seemed to drift away once the "euro announcments" were made

i love teh jet

Actually, that's because everyone but the 'flag-wavers' lost interest 2 pages ago.

**Jared** · 01-24-2007, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by eazyrider_tim

FINALLY!! Nice, and I like the LED's interior and the new hood/bumper combo. Also the hatches are dead, yay.

Yay indeed

**Ataru** · 01-24-2007, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Thameth

Thats already been discussed and the thread is staying open. This is a "discussion" forum BTW.....

I know it was discussed before. I was just throwing out my comment. You know, discussing things.

**blackonblack** · 01-24-2007, 09:03 PM

i dont know about the rest of everyone else, if i would buy a newer foci i more that likely wont be going past 06 if they are gona start lookin like something my grandmother would drive.......

**rpvitiello** · 01-24-2007, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Ataru

Maybe this thread should be closed now. 1000 replies....I think everything that can be said has already been said.....

well honestally do you want to lock this thread, just so someone else can post another slighlty different one bitching about the new focus? might as well keep it all in one place, good or bad.

Anyway i think i need to see what euro parts i can sorce for my MK1 focus. I guess i will either be modding it to 100% e spec, or i will be buying a car from another company if i decided to actually buy something else. (like A3)

after having seen the design, and gotten "used" to it I am still not a huge fan. Since it is on the same platform i doubt it will drive all that different than the existing one. Ford may have a market basis for this car, but is is NOT the several hundred thousand people who bought the MK1 focus. The question is if they can gain more new customers with this route than they have lost by basically abandoning what they were origonally going for with this car.

**SpliceVW** · 01-24-2007, 10:09 PM

Okay, so, I went to the Washington Auto Show today. It was pretty disappointing (like 3 concept cars total), but I did get a look at the '08 Focus. In person, it is one of the ugliest cars I've ever seen. Its like the retarded cousin of a Saturn ION and a Toyota Echo. That's my take.

**rpvitiello** · 01-25-2007, 02:11 PM

ok I think the focus has offically become the presses example of what is wrong with ford, and there "american vs euro" products. It's NOT just FJ screaming about it any more and bringing it up every chance they can.

in THIS talk about the Saturn/opel Sky/GT they brought up the FOCUS again.

it seams like EVERY dam artical you read about american/euro brands where they sell cars in both markets, the focus comes up. By 2010 i don't think ford will have to do ANY changed to a e-spec focus. The general population will be conditioned to believe the E spec focus is the end all of c segmant cars and its arrival here will only be equaled in greatness by the second coming of christ. ALL people here is how "GREAT" ford europe is and how crappy US ford is. At this point i wonder if ford could play off of this marketing buzz. It almost might more sence to launch the "new" focus in europe first, even if it's only by a month, just so people formulate they are beinging over the new euro focus, as apposed to launching it in the states first, where people may think its still the american derived car.

**wilko** · 01-25-2007, 04:10 PM

IMO When the 2010 debuts; the press will sing enough praise to cause the general American public to take another look. That is if Ford NA dosent botch it up by "Amero-kan-ize-ing" it.

**PlayaName** · 01-25-2007, 06:49 PM

I too went to the Washington auto show, just got back in fact. Quite sad to say that out of the weird concepts, kias, hyundais, etc; the Focus was the worst looking car on display. I really actually liked it in pictures, but in person, it is simply awful. Very, very sad; but the 2007 they had there was 10 times nicer. On a different note, I loved the Suzuki SX4 and am going to buy one.

**eff** · 01-25-2007, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by wilko

IMO When the 2010 debuts; the press will sing enough praise to cause the general American public to take another look. That is if Ford NA dosent botch it up by "Amero-kan-ize-ing" it.

The C2 Focus will most definitely be Americanize. Ford N.A. has already said so.

Lucky for Ford of Europe, they do not have to Italianize, Latvianize, Finnishize,
Norweigianize etc to appeal to each very different market.

**bustonit** · 01-25-2007, 07:54 PM

the roller coaster ride I took after seeing that pic.....

**rpvitiello** · 01-25-2007, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by bustonit

the roller coaster ride I took after seeing that pic.....

which raises the question why ford could not come up with that! it is not THAT different than what they came out with, but it flows much better, and looks more like a "focus"

**SpliceVW** · 01-26-2007, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by PlayaName

I too went to the Washington auto show, just got back in fact. Quite sad to say that out of the weird concepts, kias, hyundais, etc; the Focus was the worst looking car on display. I really actually liked it in pictures, but in person, it is simply awful. Very, very sad; but the 2007 they had there was 10 times nicer. On a different note, I loved the Suzuki SX4 and am going to buy one.

Exactly as I thought. I saw the '07 sedan and said, "wow, this is the new focus.. this is pretty nice!" Then.. I saw the '08. Barf.

**CatMostFeared** · 01-26-2007, 02:27 AM

well I cant wait for them to come out,
I'm ready to buy one.

**CrUziN4L** · 01-26-2007, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by CatMostFeared

well I cant wait for them to come out,
I'm ready to buy one.

that's the attitude i like to hear.

especially since the 05 facelift had similar flack, but when people started getting them and tweaking the appearance by mear "self-done" (not really bought bodyparts)...people started loving

..i can't wait for the same to happen to this

-chris

**vad** · 01-26-2007, 01:27 PM

I can't wait to see the sales numbers when the 08 comes out.
With such negativity in public response, woudn't much more wiser for Ford just to continue producing the current Focus for an additional couple of years with a nicer interior and cosmetic updates (Euro look-alike bumpers and trim upgrades).

**Honkeytonk Monkey** · 01-26-2007, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by CrUziN4L

especially since the 05 facelift had similar flack, but when people started getting them and tweaking the appearance by mear "self-done" (not really bought bodyparts)...people started loving

-chris

Here's the thing though, you had to change them to make looking at them bearable. Unless it has the F2 parts on it, and is a sedan I still think the facelift front is horrible. On the hatch it was like a giant nose on a bubble, it just looks wierd (and not the good kind of wierd like a Zonda)

The 1999 Euro Focus was pretty much perfect. Ford messed up by making a cheap looking front and rear bumpers for the US cars instead of just extending the Euro bumpers but keeping thier lines. They axed the fender mounted sidemarkers to save money then made the hideous grille that the US car came with. Everything Ford US touched were the worst parts about the car, but at least it was bearable since the original design was still there, just marred.

This new Focus will not have an aftermarket as far as visual modification thanks to a two year lifespan. What company wants to invest in a platform that died in the delivery room? You'll have about the same aftermarket as the facelift car. They have what, one front bumper? It's going to be a wierd looking thing that will probably sell initiallydue to being new, then rapidly taper off as people start comparing it to the cars everyone else is bringing out.

Axing the hatch was simply insane. What % of the total numbers did the hatch make up? Take that number out now. That will be your best case scenario for sales numbers for this thing. Anyone buying a coupe will cross-shop this car with the Cobalt and Pursuit, which look much better. You thin kthey care about the rear suspension not being as good? Then there's the Civic coupe, the Tiburon, etc... which all look much better than this tall skinny collaboration of bad design.

So basically, you have the enthusiasts that hate the no hatch malarky, as well as the no engine choice crap. They will look to another manufacturer, or just keep thier cars until something better is released by someone else. The intelligent consumer will see that this car is a pile of hopes and dreams and stay away from it as it has a very short shelf life. Got in a fender bender, well they don't make that part anymore $cha-ching$

01-24-2007, 04:55 PM	#1001
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01-24-2007, 09:03 PM	#1010
blackonblack TEAM Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: York, PA Posts: 162	Re: Official 2008 Ford Focus Pics and Information! i dont know about the rest of everyone else, if i would buy a newer foci i more that likely wont be going past 06 if they are gona start lookin like something my grandmother would drive....... __________________ boosted by Powerworks

01-24-2007, 10:09 PM	#1012
SpliceVW Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Springfield, USA Posts: 3,452	Re: Official 2008 Ford Focus Pics and Information! Okay, so, I went to the Washington Auto Show today. It was pretty disappointing (like 3 concept cars total), but I did get a look at the '08 Focus. In person, it is one of the ugliest cars I've ever seen. Its like the retarded cousin of a Saturn ION and a Toyota Echo. That's my take. __________________ The Spickle 2004 Infra Red SVT Focus ZX3 #106/1978

01-25-2007, 02:11 PM	#1013
rpvitiello I can't stop typing...I can't stop typing...I can't stop typing...I can't stop typing... Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Stamford, CT, US (The NYC area) Posts: 6,247	Re: Official 2008 Ford Focus Pics and Information! ok I think the focus has offically become the presses example of what is wrong with ford, and there "american vs euro" products. It's NOT just FJ screaming about it any more and bringing it up every chance they can. in THIS talk about the Saturn/opel Sky/GT they brought up the FOCUS again. it seams like EVERY dam artical you read about american/euro brands where they sell cars in both markets, the focus comes up. By 2010 i don't think ford will have to do ANY changed to a e-spec focus. The general population will be conditioned to believe the E spec focus is the end all of c segmant cars and its arrival here will only be equaled in greatness by the second coming of christ. ALL people here is how "GREAT" ford europe is and how crappy US ford is. At this point i wonder if ford could play off of this marketing buzz. It almost might more sence to launch the "new" focus in europe first, even if it's only by a month, just so people formulate they are beinging over the new euro focus, as apposed to launching it in the states first, where people may think its still the american derived car. __________________ Welcome to CT, it’s almost like driving in Europe, narrow twisty roads, BMW, Mercedes, VW and any other euro style car everywhere. Just one thing ruins it… American drivers. Drive swift and safe, Not slow and stupid last rites

01-25-2007, 04:10 PM	#1014
wilko Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: WNY Posts: 1,342	Re: Official 2008 Ford Focus Pics and Information! IMO When the 2010 debuts; the press will sing enough praise to cause the general American public to take another look. That is if Ford NA dosent botch it up by "Amero-kan-ize-ing" it. __________________ Mr. personality drives a 2008 Focus.

01-25-2007, 06:49 PM	#1015
PlayaName TEAM Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Rockville, MD Posts: 440	Re: Official 2008 Ford Focus Pics and Information! I too went to the Washington auto show, just got back in fact. Quite sad to say that out of the weird concepts, kias, hyundais, etc; the Focus was the worst looking car on display. I really actually liked it in pictures, but in person, it is simply awful. Very, very sad; but the 2007 they had there was 10 times nicer. On a different note, I loved the Suzuki SX4 and am going to buy one. __________________ 2001 Sangria Red ZX3 Full SVT Red Interior Swap with custom wire controls, SVT 5 spoke wheels with Eagle F1's, FS SCT tune, FS Stealth Exhaust, FRPP Wires, K&N Ram Intake, Full SVT Suspension and prothane bushings and Snazzy Engine Paint Job.

01-25-2007, 07:54 PM	#1017
bustonit Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The valley of the Giant Posts: 2,661	Re: Official 2008 Ford Focus Pics and Information! the roller coaster ride I took after seeing that pic.....

01-26-2007, 02:27 AM	#1020
CatMostFeared Senior TEAM Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Buckner,Ky Posts: 2,264	Re: Official 2008 Ford Focus Pics and Information! well I cant wait for them to come out, I'm ready to buy one. __________________ 2000 Turbo WRC ZX3 2002 PowerWorks SVT MassiveSpeedSystem www.focusxtreme.com

01-26-2007, 01:27 PM	#1022
vad Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: La Mesa, CA Posts: 1,890	Re: Official 2008 Ford Focus Pics and Information! I can't wait to see the sales numbers when the 08 comes out. With such negativity in public response, woudn't much more wiser for Ford just to continue producing the current Focus for an additional couple of years with a nicer interior and cosmetic updates (Euro look-alike bumpers and trim upgrades).